Any Interest in Michael Porter Jr.?

[LarSiN]

None, for numerous reasons (cost, injury history, kind of a weirdo, etc)

[Tofubeque]

Had no idea Booth is Denver’s GM

Not only that, he called Porter Jr someone who "couldn't guard" and a "me guy", in an interview he thought was off the record this year.

[KawhiSoSerious]

I bet we don’t double down on Porter Jr’s on the Raps.

Seems like a gamble at this point.

Smart money says we’d stay far away and I’d wager most on the board would agree.

[Potential]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

[CPT]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

Don't want to overreact, but the dynasty ship has already sailed. Maybe they win another title in the next few years, but they are not going to start stringing them together.

Either KCP or MPJ (maybe both) will probably be gone next season in order to try to build a bench. Either that or they go the other way and try to "upgrade" with an aging "superstar" wing.

Maybe they lose in the second round again next year and fire Malone, just because that's the way things go in the NBA.

It's not even a knock on them necessarily. There's a lot of parity in the NBA these days, and we just saw that they weren't so far ahead of the pack that they could just lose pieces of their championship team and keep rolling.

Dallas, OKC, and Minny are on the upswing, and San Antonio will be a force sooner than people think. What Denver does with MPJ will make or break this version of their team.

[Raps in 4]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

They have no consistency outside of Jokic. They caught lightning in a bottle last year with Murray playing way above his normal production. It's unlikely to happen again.

That term doesn't have a single All-Star/All-NBA player outside of Jokic. That isn't a winning formula.

[dkb964]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

They have no consistency outside of Jokic. They caught lighting in a bottle last year with Murray playing way above his normal prduction. It's unlikely to happen again.

That term doesn't have a single All-Star/All-NBA player outside of Jokic. That isn't a winning formula.

Murray is the best player I can think of not to make an All-Star team. It is not like he is trash is the regular season or anything. He put up 21/4/7 on 48/43/85 last season.

[will]

Only if Silver reinstates Jontay..

[Indeed]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

Don't want to overreact, but the dynasty ship has already sailed. Maybe they win another title in the next few years, but they are not going to start stringing them together.

Either KCP or MPJ (maybe both) will probably be gone next season in order to try to build a bench. Either that or they go the other way and try to "upgrade" with an aging "superstar" wing.

Maybe they lose in the second round again next year and fire Malone, just because that's the way things go in the NBA.

It's not even a knock on them necessarily. There's a lot of parity in the NBA these days, and we just saw that they weren't so far ahead of the pack that they could just lose pieces of their championship team and keep rolling.

Dallas, OKC, and Minny are on the upswing, and San Antonio will be a force sooner than people think. What Denver does with MPJ will make or break this version of their team.

I think the fact is that those can be replaced in cheaper salary.

[ForeverTFC]

He's the exact contract the CBA is designed to punish these days.

[ontnut]

double post

[ontnut]

You make some very solid points. One thing I disagree with you on is his value. I think because of his salary and injury concerns that he would not be seen as a prize asset to land the players you mentioned or players of that ilk. My thinking for Denver would be to take one step back to take two steps forward. It is not like they wanted to lose Brown they just could not afford to pay him 23M a year. They could if they got off the Porter Jr. money though. Brown Jr. was a very good player for them. They would be off that 23M after next season and have an ability to reshape the roster around Jokic/Murray. As for the Raptors they would be taking a risky swing for sure but at a low cost.

In trade, his salary would be used as matching salary and DEN would include some other draft assets to accompany him in order to get a PG13. I think around the league MPJ is still viewed in a positive light, though obv a high risk player. In terms of salary going forward, with the new cap jumps about 10% a year, and MPJ still being young, I think DEN will be willing to keep him on so long as health and luxury tax payments will allow.

Also, I'm pretty sure they can't really do much in FA even if they let Brown expire...they're at -$70 mil in cap space for next season lol. So even if they get rid of MPJ's 36 mil, and both KCP and Jackson decline options, they're still $13 million shy of actual cap space.

Denver's core is more or less what it is until at least 2025-26, depending if AG picks up his option or not. Jokic would be 30 and they'd still have Braun on a cheap club option, but they'd have to re-sign Murray for that season too. I don't think DEN makes any major moves this offseason. They'll retool around the core 4 and then maybe do something in 25-26.

Denver does not have the type of assets to attach to MPJ to land a star. You and I both know that.

I know. I'm saying that MPJ isn't being traded and that their core is their core.
I'm only saying that IFFFF they were to make a trade with MPJ, it would only be as part of a S&T for a FA like PG13. LAC would probably rather get back MPJ and 4 2nds, rather than lose PG13 for nothing, I would assume. Just as an example, not saying it's a realistic target. But that's the only way I see MPJ not playing for the Nuggets.

[JB7]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

Don't want to overreact, but the dynasty ship has already sailed. Maybe they win another title in the next few years, but they are not going to start stringing them together.

Either KCP or MPJ (maybe both) will probably be gone next season in order to try to build a bench. Either that or they go the other way and try to "upgrade" with an aging "superstar" wing.

Maybe they lose in the second round again next year and fire Malone, just because that's the way things go in the NBA.

It's not even a knock on them necessarily. There's a lot of parity in the NBA these days, and we just saw that they weren't so far ahead of the pack that they could just lose pieces of their championship team and keep rolling.

Dallas, OKC, and Minny are on the upswing, and San Antonio will be a force sooner than people think. What Denver does with MPJ will make or break this version of their team.

What do they do with MPJ though? If they trade him, are they actually going to get comparable value for him, considering his contract and injury history?

And they don’t have much in terms of other assets to move. Their FRPs are going to be near the end of the first round every season.

[agkagk]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

Don't want to overreact, but the dynasty ship has already sailed. Maybe they win another title in the next few years, but they are not going to start stringing them together.

Either KCP or MPJ (maybe both) will probably be gone next season in order to try to build a bench. Either that or they go the other way and try to "upgrade" with an aging "superstar" wing.

Maybe they lose in the second round again next year and fire Malone, just because that's the way things go in the NBA.

It's not even a knock on them necessarily. There's a lot of parity in the NBA these days, and we just saw that they weren't so far ahead of the pack that they could just lose pieces of their championship team and keep rolling.

Dallas, OKC, and Minny are on the upswing, and San Antonio will be a force sooner than people think. What Denver does with MPJ will make or break this version of their team.

Yup, im worried theyre effed.

Too many miles with too little recovery time the last 3 years.

Porter murray and gordon look destined for a bunch of 40 game injury filled seasons.

[agkagk]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

Don't want to overreact, but the dynasty ship has already sailed. Maybe they win another title in the next few years, but they are not going to start stringing them together.

Either KCP or MPJ (maybe both) will probably be gone next season in order to try to build a bench. Either that or they go the other way and try to "upgrade" with an aging "superstar" wing.

Maybe they lose in the second round again next year and fire Malone, just because that's the way things go in the NBA.

It's not even a knock on them necessarily. There's a lot of parity in the NBA these days, and we just saw that they weren't so far ahead of the pack that they could just lose pieces of their championship team and keep rolling.

Dallas, OKC, and Minny are on the upswing, and San Antonio will be a force sooner than people think. What Denver does with MPJ will make or break this version of their team.

Yup, im worried theyre effed.

Too many miles with too little recovery time the last 3 years.

Porter murray and gordon look destined for a bunch of 40 game injury filled seasons.

[agkagk]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

Don't want to overreact, but the dynasty ship has already sailed. Maybe they win another title in the next few years, but they are not going to start stringing them together.

Either KCP or MPJ (maybe both) will probably be gone next season in order to try to build a bench. Either that or they go the other way and try to "upgrade" with an aging "superstar" wing.

Maybe they lose in the second round again next year and fire Malone, just because that's the way things go in the NBA.

It's not even a knock on them necessarily. There's a lot of parity in the NBA these days, and we just saw that they weren't so far ahead of the pack that they could just lose pieces of their championship team and keep rolling.

Dallas, OKC, and Minny are on the upswing, and San Antonio will be a force sooner than people think. What Denver does with MPJ will make or break this version of their team.

Yup, im worried theyre effed.

Too many miles with too little recovery time the last 3 years.

Porter murray and gordon look destined for a bunch of 40 game injury filled seasons.

[Potential]

The Nuggets are going to be a dynasty and will not be trading anyone in that starting lineup. They choked in a game 7 but they'll be back with a better bench and can easily win 2+ more titles this decade

They have no consistency outside of Jokic. They caught lightning in a bottle last year with Murray playing way above his normal production. It's unlikely to happen again.

That term doesn't have a single All-Star/All-NBA player outside of Jokic. That isn't a winning formula.

Yeah I definitely agree I take back what I said. They played 0 competition in the playoffs last year outside of the Lakers where Murray turned into MJ.

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[DreamTeam09]

Denver this summer is a double apron team, they can only make traded that are 1 for 1 and can't participate in a SnT / along with losing a few free agent exemptions. A lot of the things y'all are arguing are moot.

[torsport]

Not really.

I don't love MPJr as I solution at the 3. I think we need something more. GTJr I think gives more you the same outside shooting (They are almost an identical % on the same number of attempts per game). GTJr I think will come cheaper and at least has flashes of playing defense competently or better.

I'd be more open to Brandon Ingram, who offers a little more shooting versatility at the mid-range and has more shot creation capability compared to MPJr and GTJr. If we were going in that sort of direction.