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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#662 » by WaltFrazier » Sun May 19, 2024 3:05 am

Fairly critical review of Atkins presser by Shi Davidi. 9 years this guy has been here. Long overdue to replace him.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/ross-atkins-betting-on-current-blue-jays-to-spark-revival/
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

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Post#665 » by polo007 » Tue May 21, 2024 8:39 pm

Likelihood of Soto extension? Bichette, Vlad Jr. on the block? Execs weigh in - MLB.com

Big two on the block?

It seems inconceivable that the Blue Jays – who have entered the past few seasons with great expectations – could trade either Bo Bichette and/or Vladimir Guerrero Jr., but given Toronto’s 21-25 start and the competitive state of the AL East, one AL executive believes it’s possible the Jays could move one or both of their superstars this summer.

“I don’t think they’re opposed to it,” the executive said. “They’ve talked to teams about it. The asks were ridiculous, but I think they’re going to try to retool a lot, and using those guys to get pieces may be the way to do it.”

Both Bichette and Guerrero are slated to become free agents after the 2025 season, so any acquiring team would have them for the rest of this year and one more full season.


Bichette, an All-Star in 2021 and 2023, is off to a sluggish start, posting a .230/.289/.333 slash line with only two home runs and 16 RBIs in 43 games this season. Guerrero’s .286/.381/.394 slash line is far more respectable, but he’s hit only four homers with 21 RBIs through 45 games.

“Neither of them are off to great starts, but other teams might view them as change-of-scenery guys,” an NL executive said. “Everyone knows what these guys can do, but that roster might just need a change.”
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#666 » by dagger » Wed May 22, 2024 3:00 pm

I would think that if the Jays move off some guys at the deadline, a Bo trade is more likely than a Vlad trade because Vlad's power is still greater, and there are numerous players in the farm system from AAA down to Rookie league who profile as actually shortstops (and not just infielders destined for 2B-3B or the outfield.) If they deal Bo for a power prospect and a pitching prospect, they can move with more certainty on an extension for Danny Jansen, who with his injury history ought to be a listener.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#667 » by bluerap23 » Thu May 23, 2024 8:18 pm

dagger wrote:I would think that if the Jays move off some guys at the deadline, a Bo trade is more likely than a Vlad trade because Vlad's power is still greater, and there are numerous players in the farm system from AAA down to Rookie league who profile as actually shortstops (and not just infielders destined for 2B-3B or the outfield.) If they deal Bo for a power prospect and a pitching prospect, they can move with more certainty on an extension for Danny Jansen, who with his injury history ought to be a listener.


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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#669 » by polo007 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:42 pm

'Insane where this kid has come from': Tarik Skubal's journey to become Detroit Tigers ace - USA Today

– The Toronto Blue Jays are the team buyers are keeping their eye on at the trade deadline knowing they could move first baseman Vladimir Guerrero Jr., shortstop Bo Bichette, DH Justin Turner, outfielders George Springer and Kevin Kiermaier, closer Jordan Romano and starters Yusei Kikuchi and Chris Bassitt.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#670 » by SharoneWright » Mon May 27, 2024 7:55 pm

polo007 wrote:'Insane where this kid has come from': Tarik Skubal's journey to become Detroit Tigers ace - USA Today

– The Toronto Blue Jays are the team buyers are keeping their eye on at the trade deadline knowing they could move first baseman Vladimir Guerrero Jr., shortstop Bo Bichette, DH Justin Turner, outfielders George Springer and Kevin Kiermaier, closer Jordan Romano and starters Yusei Kikuchi and Chris Bassitt.


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Post#673 » by Raptors Realtor » Tue May 28, 2024 4:57 pm

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Yikes, not a fan of any of the city connect unis... Weird how MLB copied the NBA to find another way to extract more money from fans.
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expect these to be very polarizing but it's fine to me. could be worse
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#675 » by Parataxis » Fri May 31, 2024 4:01 am

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I don't know if it's the lighting, the angle, or if they made changes from the prototypes, but these look a whole lot cleaner than the leaks.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#676 » by Asianiac_24 » Fri May 31, 2024 5:16 am

The sooner the firesale, the better. Fire Atikins first and foremost
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#677 » by bluerap23 » Fri May 31, 2024 1:41 pm

https://jaysjournal.com/posts/if-blue-jays-sell-at-deadline-james-click-needs-full-autonomy-over-baseball-operations/3

So here is an open appeal to Ed Rogers and the Blue Jays ownership: please, for the sake of the future of this franchise and the quality of the product on the field, do not let Mark Shapiro and Ross Atkins lead your baseball operations team as they retool the roster at the trade deadline this year.
Those decisions should be handled by GM-in-waiting and current Vice President of Baseball Strategy James Click, who was general manager of the 2022 World Series champion Houston Astros. Give him full autonomy over baseball-related decisions, and limit Shapiro’s influence to the marketing and business side only.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#679 » by Parataxis » Fri May 31, 2024 5:44 pm

People get second opinions to confirm good news all the time, right?

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Re: General Blue Jays Thread: 2024 Season 

Post#680 » by dagger » Fri May 31, 2024 6:14 pm

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Yep, looks like surgery, although hopefully not the full TJ, but rather the hybrid job more and more pitchers are getting. If so, it should put an end to Cathal Kelly's absurd suggestion that the Jays go all-in this season, as if acquiring one good bat is all that stands in the way of this team competing with NYY or BAL.
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