** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

[youngcrev]

The King Offseason


1. Trade Reed, #16, and two future 2nds for Alex Caruso
2. Max LeBron James
3. Sign Kyle Anderson with remaining cap space (~$8 mil)
4. Sign Kelly Oubre with the MLE
5. Sign Cam Payne, Kyle Lowry, Dario Saric, Nico Batum, Andre Drummond, and Robert Covington to vet mins


Maxey/Payne/Lowry
Caruso/Oubre/(project)
LeBron/Batum/Council
Anderson/Saric/Covington
Embiid/Drummond/(project)

I wonder if the Bulls finally come to their senses this summer and blow that thing up. That Caruso deal feels reasonable, but there will likely be a TON of bidders on him if available. Honestly, I'd be fine with a slight overpay by throwing in another 1st if they've got their 3rd star lined up via free agency already.

I like Kyle Anderson. Don't like his fit here so much with how reluctant of a shooter he is. Also, that money may have to go Batum and Drummond if you actually want them back.

Delete him and your lineup becomes:

Maxey / Payne
Caruso / Lowry
James / Oubre / Council
Batum / Saric / Covington
Embiid / Drummond

Which feels like an amazing outcome to this saga (pretty much any Sixers sign Lebron scenario would be, at least from a basketball standpoint)

[the_process]

If the Sixers trade 16 for a future 1st... like say to OKC for their 25 pick back, they can retain Melton's cap hold and still offer Pal Jorge his full 4/211M max.

Can they use cap space and still execute a sign and trade? Because my idea would be after signing PG to give Melton 3-75 (yrs 2&3 UNG) and flip him with picks for Mikal Bridges.

[the_process]

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Gross, we're getting Paul George aren't we...

Pretty sad that the Clippers will be the smarter organization if that happens, which I have little doubt that it will. If Morey gives George the full max, every comment by NYSixersFan will have been validated - one-trick pony fraud.

But having said that, if signing it's between signing George or James, at least George keeps me a fan.

George>>>>LeBron>>>>>>>>>Miles Bridges

[youngcrev]

If the Sixers trade 16 for a future 1st... like say to OKC for their 25 pick back, they can retain Melton's cap hold and still offer Pal Jorge his full 4/211M max.

Can they use cap space and still execute a sign and trade? Because my idea would be after signing PG to give Melton 3-75 (yrs 2&3 UNG) and flip him with picks for Mikal Bridges.

I think you could keep his cap hold and then sign and trade him, but didn't the NBA do away with those sign and trades with unguaranteed years on the back end?

[mjkvol]

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Gross, we're getting Paul George aren't we...

Pretty sad that the Clippers will be the smarter organization if that happens, which I have little doubt that it will. If Morey gives George the full max, every comment by NYSixersFan will have been validated - one-trick pony fraud.

But having said that, if signing it's between signing George or James, at least George keeps me a fan.

George>>>>LeBron>>>>>>>>>Miles Bridges

Mine would be:

Miles>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ingram>>>>>>>>>>>>George

His age and fit are ideal, and he provides far more cap space to maneuver. Not even close to me.

[the_process]

If the Sixers trade 16 for a future 1st... like say to OKC for their 25 pick back, they can retain Melton's cap hold and still offer Pal Jorge his full 4/211M max.

Can they use cap space and still execute a sign and trade? Because my idea would be after signing PG to give Melton 3-75 (yrs 2&3 UNG) and flip him with picks for Mikal Bridges.

I think you could keep his cap hold and then sign and trade him, but didn't the NBA do away with those sign and trades with unguaranteed years on the back end?

Didn't look it up, but don't know why rules for S&T would be different than rules for RFA. And Utah just tried the voidable trick with Paul Reed.

You could make it years two and three are team options instead or find some other easily voidable option in lieu of UNG if Silver insists?

[Kobblehead]

It's just hard for me to fathom us landing one of the guys that went out to California to retire.

Given their age, I kind of want us to just explore other options.

[Snotbubbles]

You guys are tough on Paul George. He'd be a good fit for Philly. Shoots 8 3s a game at a 41% clip. I prefer Lebron, but George would be a good get.

[Negrodamus]

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[youngcrev]

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That is an undersized backcourt I can get behind.

You'd actually have a decent amount of cap space leftover too. Not that I think they have the assets/what the Cavs want.

[Kobblehead]

Nah, I can't get behind Maxey and Mitchell as a backcourt. Too small. It didn't even work well in Cleveland with Mitchell and Garland.

You have to choose between the two. Given that Maxey is our homegrown guy, he's the choice. No interest in Mitchell.

[mjkvol]

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Ha! It isn't rocket science, but that is exactly what I said reacting to the article about Mitchell being happy in Cleveland. My guess is still that he is somewhere else by this summer, and Allen as well.

[zaz102]

On his podcast, Kyle Neubeck made reference to a time right before the Cavs traded for Mitchell that he sat courtside at a Sixers game. He said it was no accident and indicated that Mitchell was tight with Embiid or wanted to play with him.

Does anybody know anything about this?

[FireMorey]

Mitchell is a better option than most of the ones available. He's young, a really good scorer. Any negatives are outweighed by having 3 guys on the court in playoff series who can take over games offensively. Fit is important, but not more important than overall talent. Waste time obsessing over fit, talent is going to pass you by, and you'll wind up with guys who may "fit" better structurally, but just aren't that good. Get the best talent, let other teams try to figure out how to defend a team with 3 guys of that caliber.

That said, the Cavs probably keep him or another team with more picks to offer like the Thunder trade for him. But if the option for the Sixers were available, absolutely, you take the guy who's 27, can scorer at all levels, over guys like PG and Butler who are much older. And you certainly take him over Ingram.

[Jailblazers7]

I’d be pissed if I were PG13 about not getting more than Kawhi. Despite his own injury issues, PG has been carrying that franchise while Kawhi has racked up DNPs for years.

[Kobblehead]

Yeah, if I were the Cavs, I'd make some big moves this offseason.

Their experiment of having a starting lineup with two PGs and two Cs ultimately failed.

They should move off of Jarrett Allen and Donovan Mitchell and build around their homegrown guys of Garland and Mobley.

They can get a huge haul for Mitchell. Allen should have some suitors as well.

[ProcessDoctor]

Spida Offseason


1. Trade Reed, #16, 2026 OKC 1st, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 1st for Donovan Mitchell (3-teamer with NOP, Ingram to CLE)
2. Sign Kyle Anderson, Royce O'Neale (tight with Mitchell), Nico Batum, and Andre Drummond with remaining cap space (~28 mil)
3. Sign Kelly Oubre with room exception
4. Sign Cam Payne, Kyle Lowry, Dario Saric, and Robert Covington with vet mins


Maxey/Payne/Lowry
Mitchell/O'Neale/(project)
Batum/Oubre/Council
Anderson/Saric/Covington
Embiid/Drummond/(project)

Spoiler:

[Kobblehead]

I just don't see the point in trading for another PG who already failed in a dual PG backcourt.

DeJounte Murray failed in Atlanta with Trae Young.
Donovan Mitchell failed in Cleveland with Darius Garland

Why bring these dudes in to pair with Maxey?

We need a SG with size next to Maxey, not another PG.

Trade those picks for Desmond Bane.

[ProcessDoctor]

I just don't see the point in trading for another PG who already failed in a dual PG backcourt.

DeJounte Murray failed in Atlanta with Trae Young.
Donovan Mitchell failed in Cleveland with Darius Garland

Why bring these dudes in to pair with Maxey?

We need a SG with size next to Maxey, not another PG.

Trade those picks for Desmond Bane.

Neither of those teams had an Embiid.

Would love Bane though. Not sure if Memphis is ready to deal him though.

[FireMorey]

I don't think Mitchell failed in Cleveland I just don't think the Cavs are that good. They got as far as their roster allowed them to it's not like they underachieved.