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OG - is he worth the money he’ll demand?

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Should the Knicks pay OG the big money that he’ll demand?

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Re: OG - is he worth the money he’ll demand? 

Post#141 » by knicksNOTslick » Sun May 26, 2024 9:21 pm

We definitely have to keep OG if we're going all in to win a championship. So while we're at it, we have to expect him to miss some time during the regular season and prepare accordingly. We can't just keep the same team. We definitely need a two-way wing as insurance.
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Post#142 » by spree2kawhi » Mon May 27, 2024 2:01 pm

If these playoffs haven’t shown you what he means to this team, I don’t know what’s wrong with you.
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Post#143 » by Iron Mantis » Mon May 27, 2024 3:30 pm

All we really need to know:

What is the plan to keep him healthy?

OG wants to miss 25-30 games per season? Ok let those games missed be on our terms:

1. No B2B's
2. 32 mpg tops
3. sit him in the 4th if it's a blowout
4. let him skip games vs Det, Was, Cha, Por
5. unless we're in a dogfight to make the playoffs, hold him out of the final 10 games of the season

Anything else?
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Post#144 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon May 27, 2024 8:17 pm

He needs to become a better offensive player, look at what's happening to Jaden McDaniels vs Luka or Dort in the last round. At some point you may meet up with someone that has the ability to torch you even if you're all defense.
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Post#145 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon May 27, 2024 8:35 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:All we really need to know:

What is the plan to keep him healthy?

OG wants to miss 25-30 games per season? Ok let those games missed be on our terms:

1. No B2B's
2. 32 mpg tops
3. sit him in the 4th if it's a blowout
4. let him skip games vs Det, Was, Cha, Por
5. unless we're in a dogfight to make the playoffs, hold him out of the final 10 games of the season

Anything else?


Wrap him in bubble wrap?
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Post#146 » by Meat » Mon May 27, 2024 8:50 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:All we really need to know:

What is the plan to keep him healthy?

OG wants to miss 25-30 games per season? Ok let those games missed be on our terms:

1. No B2B's
2. 32 mpg tops
3. sit him in the 4th if it's a blowout
4. let him skip games vs Det, Was, Cha, Por
5. unless we're in a dogfight to make the playoffs, hold him out of the final 10 games of the season

Anything else?

improve your talent so he doesnt have to play as hard
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Post#147 » by Iron Mantis » Mon May 27, 2024 10:30 pm

Meat wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:All we really need to know:

What is the plan to keep him healthy?

OG wants to miss 25-30 games per season? Ok let those games missed be on our terms:

1. No B2B's
2. 32 mpg tops
3. sit him in the 4th if it's a blowout
4. let him skip games vs Det, Was, Cha, Por
5. unless we're in a dogfight to make the playoffs, hold him out of the final 10 games of the season

Anything else?

improve your talent so he doesnt have to play as hard

You mean doesn't have to play as many minutes?

Don't understand how he can be in the game but play less hard.
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Post#148 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue May 28, 2024 12:13 am

Read on Twitter


Never heard of this reporter and it directly contradicts what Fred Katz reported about trading Randle but I figured it was worth posting anyways.
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Post#149 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue May 28, 2024 1:24 am

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Never heard of this reporter and it directly contradicts what Fred Katz reported about trading Randle but I figured it was worth posting anyways.


I’m sure OG wants to play with Randle. He doesn’t want to be the reason why Randle is traded. His agent at CAA is Leon’s son FFS.

I call “Clickbait BS”
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Post#150 » by Bob Ross » Tue May 28, 2024 2:00 am

What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical
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Post#151 » by robillionaire » Tue May 28, 2024 2:09 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:He needs to become a better offensive player, look at what's happening to Jaden McDaniels vs Luka or Dort in the last round. At some point you may meet up with someone that has the ability to torch you even if you're all defense.


He was kinda starting to cook on offense until he got injured. Had 28 pts in the 3rd quarter of that game, didn’t put up huge scoring totals in others but was fairly efficient, definitely seems like he could rise to the occasion when needed
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Post#152 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue May 28, 2024 2:25 am

robillionaire wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:He needs to become a better offensive player, look at what's happening to Jaden McDaniels vs Luka or Dort in the last round. At some point you may meet up with someone that has the ability to torch you even if you're all defense.


He was kinda starting to cook on offense until he got injured. Had 28 pts in the 3rd quarter of that game, didn’t put up huge scoring totals in others but was fairly efficient, definitely seems like he could rise to the occasion when needed


Exactly and he’s a wayyyyy better shooter than McDaniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Og is one of the best 3point shooters in the league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no clue why nodope would compare the Two when it’s not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Og clears McDaniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#153 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue May 28, 2024 2:31 am

Bob Ross wrote:What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical



The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.
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Post#154 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue May 28, 2024 2:39 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:He needs to become a better offensive player, look at what's happening to Jaden McDaniels vs Luka or Dort in the last round. At some point you may meet up with someone that has the ability to torch you even if you're all defense.


He was kinda starting to cook on offense until he got injured. Had 28 pts in the 3rd quarter of that game, didn’t put up huge scoring totals in others but was fairly efficient, definitely seems like he could rise to the occasion when needed


Exactly and he’s a wayyyyy better shooter than McDaniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Og is one of the best 3point shooters in the league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no clue why nodope would compare the Two when it’s not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Og clears McDaniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Jaden McDaniels - 13ppg, 4rpg, 1spg, 1bpg 52% FG 42% 3PFG 1.4 threes per game

OG - 15ppg, 6rpg, 1spg, 1bpg 51% FG 41% 3PFG 1.8 threes per game


Get it together Greenie, you're embarrassing yourself in these playoffs. The point being is that elite offense beats elite defense, and he will need more offense if we ultimately want to win a title. McDaniels is an all-defense perimeter defender, doesn't matter he's getting cooked and his offense isn't enough to offset that fact. OG may be able to score more, he has to if we're giving him a max.
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Post#155 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue May 28, 2024 2:40 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical



The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.


We also saw the Knicks go 12-2 with OG at the 3 and Randle at the 4.
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Post#156 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue May 28, 2024 2:42 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical



The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.


We also saw the Knicks go 12-2 with OG at the 3 and Randle at the 4.



The Cavs were 66-16, and 61-21 in back to back years, they didn't win a thing. You don't build a team to win titles based on 14 game sample sizes, especially not when 1 of those guys has yet to perform in the playoffs and will be 30 before we ever get to see him try again.
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Post#157 » by Bob Ross » Tue May 28, 2024 2:44 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Bob Ross wrote:What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical



The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.


Ok that makes some sense, but overall I think Randle is being extremely under rated overall. Keep them both, OG is not a play maker or a guaranteed bucket. Given how Randle is talked about by most media, who else is gonna max him so who's to say we need to. Media folks would have us believe he's a negative asset
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Post#158 » by robillionaire » Tue May 28, 2024 2:47 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
He was kinda starting to cook on offense until he got injured. Had 28 pts in the 3rd quarter of that game, didn’t put up huge scoring totals in others but was fairly efficient, definitely seems like he could rise to the occasion when needed


Exactly and he’s a wayyyyy better shooter than McDaniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Og is one of the best 3point shooters in the league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no clue why nodope would compare the Two when it’s not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Og clears McDaniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Playoffs
Jaden McDaniels - 13ppg, 4rpg, 1spg, 1bpg 52% FG 42% 3PFG 1.4 threes per game

OG - 15ppg, 6rpg, 1spg, 1bpg 51% FG 41% 3PFG 1.8 threes per game


Get it together Greenie, you're embarrassing yourself in these playoffs. The point being is that elite offense beats elite defense, and he will need more offense if we ultimately want to win a title. McDaniels is an all-defense perimeter defender, doesn't matter he's getting cooked and his offense isn't enough to offset that fact. OG may be able to score more, he has to if we're giving him a max.


His per game numbers are skewed a little bit by playing 2 minutes in game 7

McDaniels is a solid player though
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Post#159 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue May 28, 2024 2:49 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.


We also saw the Knicks go 12-2 with OG at the 3 and Randle at the 4.



The Cavs were 66-16, and 61-21 in back to back years, they didn't win a thing. You don't build a team to win titles based on 14 game sample sizes, especially not when 1 of those guys has yet to perform in the playoffs and will be 30 before we ever get to see him try again.

We’re more flexible with both OG and Randle. Randle is a workhorse who very rarely gets a united. He’s not going anywhere.
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Post#160 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue May 28, 2024 2:50 am

i agree with nodope that we need og to score more. he does seem capable of it. its just every time he starts getting really aggressive he gets hurt. that's frustrating about him. hopefully these injuries this year are just bad luck injuries.
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