ImageImageImage

Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread

Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous

User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,195
And1: 2,534
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#361 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon May 27, 2024 8:37 pm

Dmavs12 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:He's undoubtedly a great defender but he becomes essentially unplayable, especially in the POs due to his very poor shooting and unlike DJJ he is not a great cutter either. The current incarnation of Thybulle lost all his minutes to Green in the last WC because no team can afford to have a black hole on offense in a set halfcourt offense situation.


This was DJJ’s best 3pt shooting season of his career in terms of both volume and percentage. That’s because Luka is feeding him open looks.

Thybulle is already shooting a higher percentage from 3 on a higher volume without Luka feeding him.

In DJJ’s 8 year career, 12 of his 15 highest scoring games came this season. DJJ has twice as many 20 point games in the first month and a half to start this season than he did in his entire 7 year career. Thybulle is a NBA rotation level player if you give him wide open looks he will be moderately effective.

And again this trade shaves money to get DJJ back as well.

Nico has looked like a great GM this year. Last offseason he valued Thybulle much more then DJJ


100% agree. The Luka effect is real. Nico was hunting this guy, and my trust factor in his decisions cannot be higher. If Nico wants him, I hope they can find a way to get it done in the offseason. As for DJJ, I definitely want him back, but I wouldn’t blame Nico, or Cuban, for playing a little hardball here. The guy was a NBA journeyman before finding a great fit in Dallas. Any team wanting to pay him big money, outside of Dallas, is taking a big risk. I would offer up a contract that matches the years left on Kyries deal, but allows them flexibility to add another key player, like Caruso.
If I’m Nico, all my tweaks this offseason are going to be geared towards upgrading the roster to better handle the 5 out teams like Boston and OKC. Bostons already there, and OKC is a Markkenan away from being a nightmare.


The Luka effect is real for sure but DJJ is not a bad player plus the wingspan/athletism combo is elite.

OKC need a real PG (Giddey is unplayble in PO and SGA is just a phenomenal scorer) and a back-up C... And until they will destroyed at rebounds that can't win anything.
User avatar
ozwizard8
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,009
And1: 1,174
Joined: Nov 21, 2013
 

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#362 » by ozwizard8 » Mon May 27, 2024 9:14 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Resigning DJj J should be priority #1. If that means unloading THJ with a minor incentive(like Tor 2nd) or Josh Green, you have to explore it. We could also use a legit backup PG since Exum isn't so reliable

Mavs are already paying $100m for Luka-Kyrie-THJ which is essentially PG-SG rotation. I dont think we should invest anymore here.
Exum was pretty solid for the regular season as a bench player.
Hardy is obviously improving each year as well.

Conservative option:
- Resign DJJ. Sen THJ away with a 2nd rounder.
- Then trust on Green, Prosper, Hardy, Lively to improve more and PJ-Gafford to further adjust playing together with Luka.
- Sign a ring chaser?

If we cannot defend Boston wings and lose, they may want to be more active:
- I'd explore Paul George availability. THJ+(Gafford or Maxi) for PG13 sign&trade?
- Sign ring chasers.

Things looking much brighter after robbing other teams with Lively-PJ-Gafford. All are young and fit with Luka timeline. We just need to figure out the salaries.

The good thing Mavs should be able to attract some ring chasers in next years. Like if you really need a backup PG, maybe sign Lowry for 2024 or CP3 will come in 2025?
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#363 » by BeiBeau » Mon May 27, 2024 9:14 pm

GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:Either you've never seen Thybulle play basketball or enjoyed various narcotics to celebrate the game 3 win, good sir. Wild is the nicest word I have for that take :lol:


What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?


He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.


I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,433
And1: 2,115
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#364 » by dirkules_41 » Mon May 27, 2024 9:15 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?


He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.


I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.

Exactly, they're googleable numbers - I'm not sure why you're trying to sell us snakeoil that is already disproven by any NBA statistics page out there. In the middle of our best PO run since 2011. Are you Thybulles agent?
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#365 » by BeiBeau » Mon May 27, 2024 9:17 pm

Dmavs12 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:He's undoubtedly a great defender but he becomes essentially unplayable, especially in the POs due to his very poor shooting and unlike DJJ he is not a great cutter either. The current incarnation of Thybulle lost all his minutes to Green in the last WC because no team can afford to have a black hole on offense in a set halfcourt offense situation.


This was DJJ’s best 3pt shooting season of his career in terms of both volume and percentage. That’s because Luka is feeding him open looks.

Thybulle is already shooting a higher percentage from 3 on a higher volume without Luka feeding him.

In DJJ’s 8 year career, 12 of his 15 highest scoring games came this season. DJJ has twice as many 20 point games in the first month and a half to start this season than he did in his entire 7 year career. Thybulle is a NBA rotation level player if you give him wide open looks he will be moderately effective.

And again this trade shaves money to get DJJ back as well.

Nico has looked like a great GM this year. Last offseason he valued Thybulle much more then DJJ


100% agree. The Luka effect is real. Nico was hunting this guy, and my trust factor in his decisions cannot be higher. If Nico wants him, I hope they can find a way to get it done in the offseason. As for DJJ, I definitely want him back, but I wouldn’t blame Nico, or Cuban, for playing a little hardball here. The guy was a NBA journeyman before finding a great fit in Dallas. Any team wanting to pay him big money, outside of Dallas, is taking a big risk. I would offer up a contract that matches the years left on Kyries deal, but allows them flexibility to add another key player, like Caruso.
If I’m Nico, all my tweaks this offseason are going to be geared towards upgrading the roster to better handle the 5 out teams like Boston and OKC. Bostons already there, and OKC is a Markkenan away from being a nightmare.


If y’all want to be able to handle 5 out line ups but are complaining that we’re overpaying to get 2 elite point of attack defenders(DJJ and Caruso) then y’all are just talking absolute nonsense. Stopping and switching on the perimeter is how we handle 5 out.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,433
And1: 2,115
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#366 » by dirkules_41 » Mon May 27, 2024 9:19 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
This was DJJ’s best 3pt shooting season of his career in terms of both volume and percentage. That’s because Luka is feeding him open looks.

Thybulle is already shooting a higher percentage from 3 on a higher volume without Luka feeding him.

In DJJ’s 8 year career, 12 of his 15 highest scoring games came this season. DJJ has twice as many 20 point games in the first month and a half to start this season than he did in his entire 7 year career. Thybulle is a NBA rotation level player if you give him wide open looks he will be moderately effective.

And again this trade shaves money to get DJJ back as well.

Nico has looked like a great GM this year. Last offseason he valued Thybulle much more then DJJ


100% agree. The Luka effect is real. Nico was hunting this guy, and my trust factor in his decisions cannot be higher. If Nico wants him, I hope they can find a way to get it done in the offseason. As for DJJ, I definitely want him back, but I wouldn’t blame Nico, or Cuban, for playing a little hardball here. The guy was a NBA journeyman before finding a great fit in Dallas. Any team wanting to pay him big money, outside of Dallas, is taking a big risk. I would offer up a contract that matches the years left on Kyries deal, but allows them flexibility to add another key player, like Caruso.
If I’m Nico, all my tweaks this offseason are going to be geared towards upgrading the roster to better handle the 5 out teams like Boston and OKC. Bostons already there, and OKC is a Markkenan away from being a nightmare.


If y’all want to be able to handle 5 out line ups but are complaining that we’re overpaying to get 2 elite point of attack defenders(DJJ and Caruso) then y’all are just talking absolute nonsense. Stopping and switching on the perimeter is how we handle 5 out.

I think we're doing just fine rn. We're the number 1 defense since the TDL, maybe you missed that. Why you'd wanna trade all remaining assets for a 30yo undersized defender that gets the lions share of his minutes where our top stars play is beyond me but fine, I don't have any further time to invest in this.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#367 » by BeiBeau » Mon May 27, 2024 9:20 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.


I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.

Exactly, they're googleable numbers - I'm not sure why you're trying to sell us snakeoil that is already disproven by any NBA statistics page out there. In the middle of our best PO run since 2011. Are you Thybulles agent?


Adding a great defender and a shooter who is better then what we currently have while opening up some money to keep a core player for our team is how we stay a top team.

You all need to get out of this Dallas centric bubble. You all have a lot to learn.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,433
And1: 2,115
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#368 » by dirkules_41 » Mon May 27, 2024 9:21 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.

Exactly, they're googleable numbers - I'm not sure why you're trying to sell us snakeoil that is already disproven by any NBA statistics page out there. In the middle of our best PO run since 2011. Are you Thybulles agent?


Adding a great defender and a shooter who is better then what we currently have while opening up some money to keep a core player for our team is how we stay a top team.

You all need to get out of this Dallas centric bubble. You all have a lot to learn.

I all? I all have seen Thybulle play, apparently more than you. And I can comprehend numbers, apparently better than you.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#369 » by BeiBeau » Mon May 27, 2024 9:22 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Dmavs12 wrote:
100% agree. The Luka effect is real. Nico was hunting this guy, and my trust factor in his decisions cannot be higher. If Nico wants him, I hope they can find a way to get it done in the offseason. As for DJJ, I definitely want him back, but I wouldn’t blame Nico, or Cuban, for playing a little hardball here. The guy was a NBA journeyman before finding a great fit in Dallas. Any team wanting to pay him big money, outside of Dallas, is taking a big risk. I would offer up a contract that matches the years left on Kyries deal, but allows them flexibility to add another key player, like Caruso.
If I’m Nico, all my tweaks this offseason are going to be geared towards upgrading the roster to better handle the 5 out teams like Boston and OKC. Bostons already there, and OKC is a Markkenan away from being a nightmare.


If y’all want to be able to handle 5 out line ups but are complaining that we’re overpaying to get 2 elite point of attack defenders(DJJ and Caruso) then y’all are just talking absolute nonsense. Stopping and switching on the perimeter is how we handle 5 out.

I think we're doing just fine rn. We're the number 1 defense since the TDL, maybe you missed that. Why you'd wanna trade all remaining assets for a 30yo undersized defender that gets the lions share of his minutes where our top stars play is beyond me but fine, I don't have any further time to invest in this.


How do you not understand that DJJ is walking this summer if we don’t open money?

We won’t have a the top defense in the league if he leaves. And the NBA is a permanent nuclear arms race. Denver was the best team last year. They lost a rotation piece. And now Jokic is riding horses in Serbia.
User avatar
GermanFan120
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,642
And1: 1,579
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#370 » by GermanFan120 » Mon May 27, 2024 11:50 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
What part exactly do you disagree with?

Are you saying Thybulle is not a high quality defender and has been for years? Or are you saying Thybulle is not a better shooter then DJJ?


He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.


I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.


Let's focus on the fact now: DJJ is playing in a WCF right now and the bottom line is he plays WELL.

I don't recall your hero Tybulle playing well in any conference final EVER. Please help me remember your boy Tybulle guarding a superstar so well in a conference final. PLEASE.

I will also translate the above in case you don't understand: Just because of a better % doesn't mean poo poo, to name an easier example for you: I shoot better % in YMCA than Josh Green, does that make me better than Green?

Only casual fans will look at numbers and draw conclusion from there. Does number matter? Yes it does. But it is not the FULL story my friend.

And do not use cowards here in Mavs forum. Why? Because you would be treated the same like how you treat others.
Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
User avatar
GermanFan120
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,642
And1: 1,579
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#371 » by GermanFan120 » Mon May 27, 2024 11:54 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.

Exactly, they're googleable numbers - I'm not sure why you're trying to sell us snakeoil that is already disproven by any NBA statistics page out there. In the middle of our best PO run since 2011. Are you Thybulles agent?


Adding a great defender and a shooter who is better then what we currently have while opening up some money to keep a core player for our team is how we stay a top team.

You all need to get out of this Dallas centric bubble. You all have a lot to learn.


How about you learn to be polite and not full about yourself. It's called PERSPECTIVE. Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an azzhole. But hey, it doesn't make your hole bigger than others, yo.
Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#372 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 12:39 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
He can defend and he can defend great are two different things.

And he cannot shoot, drive, layup, finish dunk or lob dunk like DJJ.


I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.


Let's focus on the fact now: DJJ is playing in a WCF right now and the bottom line is he plays WELL.

I don't recall your hero Tybulle playing well in any conference final EVER. Please help me remember your boy Tybulle guarding a superstar so well in a conference final. PLEASE.

I will also translate the above in case you don't understand: Just because of a better % doesn't mean poo poo, to name an easier example for you: I shoot better % in YMCA than Josh Green, does that make me better than Green?

Only casual fans will look at numbers and draw conclusion from there. Does number matter? Yes it does. But it is not the FULL story my friend.

And do not use cowards here in Mavs forum. Why? Because you would be treated the same like how you treat others.


Josh Green plays in the NBA, you in comparison are not good at basketball. Meanwhile DJJ and Thybulle both play in the NBA and Thybulle is actually the one in the worse situation but putting up the marginally better numbers. How you’re physically incapable of understanding that before playing with Luka Doncic DJJ also was not a competent offensive NBA player is both beyond my understanding and quite impressive on your part.

If you were the general manager for the Dallas Mavericks they be the worst team in the NBA. Improving the team requires finding players who skill sets are not being fully utilized and then projecting what they can bring to the table in a better situation. That is exactly what Dallas did with PJ, exactly what we did with Gafford, and Lively, and DJJ, and Kyrie Irving.

Sounds like you actually are scared to go to the T&T Board and have neutral observes tell you that you’re wrong. You can cry if you want but I’d rather be right than be your friend.

If you all wanted have legitimate criticism of that Thybulle trade you would’ve said “5 million might not be enough to resign DJJ” or “Thybulle might not be worth his contract” those are understandable criticisms.

Instead I heard:

Thybulle isn’t a NBA level player. Completely wrong

Thybulle is a worse shooter than DJJ. Completely wrong.

Thybulle doesn’t play on his national team. Nobody cares we’re talking about his fit on the Dallas Mavericks.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#373 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 12:41 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:Exactly, they're googleable numbers - I'm not sure why you're trying to sell us snakeoil that is already disproven by any NBA statistics page out there. In the middle of our best PO run since 2011. Are you Thybulles agent?


Adding a great defender and a shooter who is better then what we currently have while opening up some money to keep a core player for our team is how we stay a top team.

You all need to get out of this Dallas centric bubble. You all have a lot to learn.


How about you learn to be polite and not full about yourself. It's called PERSPECTIVE. Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an azzhole. But hey, it doesn't make your hole bigger than others, yo.


Yeah except your opinion only exists in a Dallas mavericks echo chamber. Other fan bases have a lot that they can teach you.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#374 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 1:13 am

More trades you’re all hate but that’s because y’all don’t understand realistic trade values.

Dallas trades: Powell, THJ, Tor 25 2nd
Dallas receives: Chris Boucher, fake 2nd from Houston

Toronto receives: THJ and Toronto 2nd

Houston receives: Dwight Powell
User avatar
GermanFan120
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,642
And1: 1,579
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#375 » by GermanFan120 » Tue May 28, 2024 1:21 am

BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
I’m willing to let you all just be flat wrong on this. But yall are arguing against google-able numbers with this shooting.

Thybulle shoots better from 3. Flat out. If you say otherwise then I don’t know why I’m talking to people who are completely incorrect.

You guys are alright. I’ll move on, but y’all really need to get off the Mavs only bubble on this forum. You will all learn a lot.

If you guys aren’t cowards and still think that’s a terrible trade for the Mavs then go post it on the T&T Board and get opinions from neutral observers.


Let's focus on the fact now: DJJ is playing in a WCF right now and the bottom line is he plays WELL.

I don't recall your hero Tybulle playing well in any conference final EVER. Please help me remember your boy Tybulle guarding a superstar so well in a conference final. PLEASE.

I will also translate the above in case you don't understand: Just because of a better % doesn't mean poo poo, to name an easier example for you: I shoot better % in YMCA than Josh Green, does that make me better than Green?

Only casual fans will look at numbers and draw conclusion from there. Does number matter? Yes it does. But it is not the FULL story my friend.

And do not use cowards here in Mavs forum. Why? Because you would be treated the same like how you treat others.


Josh Green plays in the NBA, you in comparison are not good at basketball. Meanwhile DJJ and Thybulle both play in the NBA and Thybulle is actually the one in the worse situation but putting up the marginally better numbers. How you’re physically incapable of understanding that before playing with Luka Doncic DJJ also was not a competent offensive NBA player is both beyond my understanding and quite impressive on your part.

If you were the general manager for the Dallas Mavericks they be the worst team in the NBA. Improving the team requires finding players who skill sets are not being fully utilized and then projecting what they can bring to the table in a better situation. That is exactly what Dallas did with PJ, exactly what we did with Gafford, and Lively, and DJJ, and Kyrie Irving.

Sounds like you actually are scared to go to the T&T Board and have neutral observes tell you that you’re wrong. You can cry if you want but I’d rather be right than be your friend.

If you all wanted have legitimate criticism of that Thybulle trade you would’ve said “5 million might not be enough to resign DJJ” or “Thybulle might not be worth his contract” those are understandable criticisms.

Instead I heard:

Thybulle isn’t a NBA level player. Completely wrong

Thybulle is a worse shooter than DJJ. Completely wrong.

Thybulle doesn’t play on his national team. Nobody cares we’re talking about his fit on the Dallas Mavericks.


LOL Cool story. And I skipped the whole nonsense just so you know. As soon as I saw you writing something about "Supersonics blue moon volcano bobcats" That's where I stopped reading. :lol:
Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
User avatar
GermanFan120
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,642
And1: 1,579
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#376 » by GermanFan120 » Tue May 28, 2024 1:22 am

BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Adding a great defender and a shooter who is better then what we currently have while opening up some money to keep a core player for our team is how we stay a top team.

You all need to get out of this Dallas centric bubble. You all have a lot to learn.


How about you learn to be polite and not full about yourself. It's called PERSPECTIVE. Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an azzhole. But hey, it doesn't make your hole bigger than others, yo.


Yeah except your opinion only exists in a Dallas mavericks echo chamber. Other fan bases have a lot that they can teach you.



No thanks, I don't want to be taught all day long by nonsense. :D
Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#377 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 2:24 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
Let's focus on the fact now: DJJ is playing in a WCF right now and the bottom line is he plays WELL.

I don't recall your hero Tybulle playing well in any conference final EVER. Please help me remember your boy Tybulle guarding a superstar so well in a conference final. PLEASE.

I will also translate the above in case you don't understand: Just because of a better % doesn't mean poo poo, to name an easier example for you: I shoot better % in YMCA than Josh Green, does that make me better than Green?

Only casual fans will look at numbers and draw conclusion from there. Does number matter? Yes it does. But it is not the FULL story my friend.

And do not use cowards here in Mavs forum. Why? Because you would be treated the same like how you treat others.


Josh Green plays in the NBA, you in comparison are not good at basketball. Meanwhile DJJ and Thybulle both play in the NBA and Thybulle is actually the one in the worse situation but putting up the marginally better numbers. How you’re physically incapable of understanding that before playing with Luka Doncic DJJ also was not a competent offensive NBA player is both beyond my understanding and quite impressive on your part.

If you were the general manager for the Dallas Mavericks they be the worst team in the NBA. Improving the team requires finding players who skill sets are not being fully utilized and then projecting what they can bring to the table in a better situation. That is exactly what Dallas did with PJ, exactly what we did with Gafford, and Lively, and DJJ, and Kyrie Irving.

Sounds like you actually are scared to go to the T&T Board and have neutral observes tell you that you’re wrong. You can cry if you want but I’d rather be right than be your friend.

If you all wanted have legitimate criticism of that Thybulle trade you would’ve said “5 million might not be enough to resign DJJ” or “Thybulle might not be worth his contract” those are understandable criticisms.

Instead I heard:

Thybulle isn’t a NBA level player. Completely wrong

Thybulle is a worse shooter than DJJ. Completely wrong.

Thybulle doesn’t play on his national team. Nobody cares we’re talking about his fit on the Dallas Mavericks.


LOL Cool story. And I skipped the whole nonsense just so you know. As soon as I saw you writing something about "Supersonics blue moon volcano bobcats" That's where I stopped reading. :lol:


Yup that’s about the level of basketball understanding you could come up with. It’s okay, I’ll let you run away.
User avatar
GermanFan120
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,642
And1: 1,579
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#378 » by GermanFan120 » Tue May 28, 2024 2:39 am

BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
Josh Green plays in the NBA, you in comparison are not good at basketball. Meanwhile DJJ and Thybulle both play in the NBA and Thybulle is actually the one in the worse situation but putting up the marginally better numbers. How you’re physically incapable of understanding that before playing with Luka Doncic DJJ also was not a competent offensive NBA player is both beyond my understanding and quite impressive on your part.

If you were the general manager for the Dallas Mavericks they be the worst team in the NBA. Improving the team requires finding players who skill sets are not being fully utilized and then projecting what they can bring to the table in a better situation. That is exactly what Dallas did with PJ, exactly what we did with Gafford, and Lively, and DJJ, and Kyrie Irving.

Sounds like you actually are scared to go to the T&T Board and have neutral observes tell you that you’re wrong. You can cry if you want but I’d rather be right than be your friend.

If you all wanted have legitimate criticism of that Thybulle trade you would’ve said “5 million might not be enough to resign DJJ” or “Thybulle might not be worth his contract” those are understandable criticisms.

Instead I heard:

Thybulle isn’t a NBA level player. Completely wrong

Thybulle is a worse shooter than DJJ. Completely wrong.

Thybulle doesn’t play on his national team. Nobody cares we’re talking about his fit on the Dallas Mavericks.


LOL Cool story. And I skipped the whole nonsense just so you know. As soon as I saw you writing something about "Supersonics blue moon volcano bobcats" That's where I stopped reading. :lol:


Yup that’s about the level of basketball understanding you could come up with. It’s okay, I’ll let you run away.



Travis Kelce was spotted with his Kansas City Chiefs teammates, Patrick Mahomes and Hollywood Brown, at Game 3 of the Dallas Mavericks-Minnesota Timberwolves Western Conference Finals on Sunday night.

But the reception by the American Airlines Center crowd wasn’t welcoming for the star tight end.

Kelce looked surprised when the Jumbotron in the arena showed him sitting courtside with his teammates, as well as Mahomes’ wife, Brittany, and the crowd immediately reacted with boos.
Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
BeiBeau
Veteran
Posts: 2,782
And1: 1,574
Joined: Apr 26, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#379 » by BeiBeau » Tue May 28, 2024 2:43 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
GermanFan120 wrote:
LOL Cool story. And I skipped the whole nonsense just so you know. As soon as I saw you writing something about "Supersonics blue moon volcano bobcats" That's where I stopped reading. :lol:


Yup that’s about the level of basketball understanding you could come up with. It’s okay, I’ll let you run away.



Travis Kelce was spotted with his Kansas City Chiefs teammates, Patrick Mahomes and Hollywood Brown, at Game 3 of the Dallas Mavericks-Minnesota Timberwolves Western Conference Finals on Sunday night.

But the reception by the American Airlines Center crowd wasn’t welcoming for the star tight end.

Kelce looked surprised when the Jumbotron in the arena showed him sitting courtside with his teammates, as well as Mahomes’ wife, Brittany, and the crowd immediately reacted with boos.


Ok?
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,433
And1: 2,115
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread 

Post#380 » by dirkules_41 » Tue May 28, 2024 5:28 am

BeiBeau wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
If y’all want to be able to handle 5 out line ups but are complaining that we’re overpaying to get 2 elite point of attack defenders(DJJ and Caruso) then y’all are just talking absolute nonsense. Stopping and switching on the perimeter is how we handle 5 out.

I think we're doing just fine rn. We're the number 1 defense since the TDL, maybe you missed that. Why you'd wanna trade all remaining assets for a 30yo undersized defender that gets the lions share of his minutes where our top stars play is beyond me but fine, I don't have any further time to invest in this.


How do you not understand that DJJ is walking this summer if we don’t open money?

We won’t have a the top defense in the league if he leaves. And the NBA is a permanent nuclear arms race. Denver was the best team last year. They lost a rotation piece. And now Jokic is riding horses in Serbia.

How do you not understand that we can open money without making moronic decisions with our limited trade assets? :lol: :banghead:

Return to Dallas Mavericks