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greg4012 · Post #1941 » by **greg4012** » Mon May 27, 2024 3:55 pm

Confused how Mavs success is nightmare for Miami fans. I don't have any residual ill will for Dallas just because Miami split 2 finals trips with them. Do you all also hate Dirk? Outside of a pipe dream of Luka leaving Dallas for Miami, I see no reason to be at odds with Dallas.

Also re the Celtics--they have the worst pick and roll defense of any team in these playoffs. If Haliburton and Nembhard are giving them headaches, then they might have a rude awakening in the finals. I like the Mavs against the celtics as long as Luka can stay right.

powerball1373 · Post #1942 » by **powerball1373** » Mon May 27, 2024 10:28 pm

greg4012 wrote:Confused how Mavs success is nightmare for Miami fans. I don't have any residual ill will for Dallas just because Miami split 2 finals trips with them. Do you all also hate Dirk? Outside of a pipe dream of Luka leaving Dallas for Miami, I see no reason to be at odds with Dallas.

Also re the Celtics--they have the worst pick and roll defense of any team in these playoffs. If Haliburton and Nembhard are giving them headaches, then they might have a rude awakening in the finals. I like the Mavs against the celtics as long as Luka can stay right.

It's not so much the franchise to me, though from that aspect they're worse than the Wolves, but I personally don't like fluka (white harden) or the flat earther (self explanatory). Still, much better option than the Celtics.

Bishop45 · Post #1943 » by **Bishop45** » Mon May 27, 2024 11:02 pm

Bammy with the slander

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Post #1944 » by **DayofMourning** » Mon May 27, 2024 11:03 pm

Post #1945 » by **Wiltside** » Mon May 27, 2024 11:15 pm

greg4012 wrote:Confused how Mavs success is nightmare for Miami fans. I don't have any residual ill will for Dallas just because Miami split 2 finals trips with them. Do you all also hate Dirk? Outside of a pipe dream of Luka leaving Dallas for Miami, I see no reason to be at odds with Dallas.

Also re the Celtics--they have the worst pick and roll defense of any team in these playoffs. If Haliburton and Nembhard are giving them headaches, then they might have a rude awakening in the finals. I like the Mavs against the celtics as long as Luka can stay right.

Mostly that Luka would be a FA target, and I have residual ill will towards Jason Terry and JJ Barea that can never be quelled lol

spectrec130 · Post #1946 » by **spectrec130** » Mon May 27, 2024 11:18 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Bammy with the slander

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.... Yeah Im good with rooting for the Mavs in the finals over Gubert and Kitty punk asses!!!

ANT needs to demand a trade and get the hell outta Minny!

Kobewade11 · Post #1947 » by **Kobewade11** » Tue May 28, 2024 1:42 am

There you go Turner. You should have stole his ass

powerball1373 · Post #1948 » by **powerball1373** » Tue May 28, 2024 2:18 am

That better be a flagrant on brown.

Edit: omfg what

Kobewade11 · Post #1949 » by **Kobewade11** » Tue May 28, 2024 2:37 am

Tatum what a clown

Michael Doleac · Post #1950 » by **Michael Doleac** » Tue May 28, 2024 2:40 am

We just witnessed the pinnacle of Jayson Tatum's career. Throwing the ball in the air as they defeat the mighty Indiana Pacers.

It's all downhill from here.

Beenie · Post #1951 » by **Beenie** » Tue May 28, 2024 2:41 am

Pacers doing their best Mia impression all series long in late game situations

Daffy · Post #1952 » by **Daffy** » Tue May 28, 2024 2:41 am

How much longer can Boston keep that team together cap wise?

TroubleS0me · Post #1953 » by **TroubleS0me** » Tue May 28, 2024 3:22 am

Can't wait until we beat them next year.

spectrec130 · Post #1954 » by **spectrec130** » Tue May 28, 2024 3:46 am

Daffy wrote:How much longer can Boston keep that team together cap wise?

Thru 2024/25 season, after that DWhite/AHorford drops off and Tatum gets a new contract due to his Player Option.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston_celtics/

Johnny Fontane · Post #1955 » by **Johnny Fontane** » Tue May 28, 2024 3:59 am

Satisfied to have not watched. Finals going to be an easy skip for me if that series goes off the rails like this one did

marson · Post #1956 » by **marson** » Tue May 28, 2024 5:36 am

Rooting for Luka and Kyrie. The only one I hate is Mark Cuban when he criticized the refs and Wade in 06 finals. But it's a healthy rivalry, like with the Spurs.

powerball1373 · Post #1957 » by **powerball1373** » Tue May 28, 2024 9:28 am

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contract · Post #1958 » by **contract** » Tue May 28, 2024 10:37 am

spectrec130 wrote:
TroubleS0me wrote:
spectrec130 wrote:
TBH Outside of Tim Legler, can't recall anyone who had the Mavs in the Finals at the start of the playoffs!

yes this was quite the surprised. I thought Luka & Kyrie wouldn't get this far since they both need the ball and the Kyrie antics but I forgot Kyrie made it work with LBJ in Cleveland.

Extremely surprised by the 3-0 lead but IIRC someone in here said that Minny was in trouble cuz Dallas is a serious matchup issue for 'em.

I'm not sure if you mean me ...

contract wrote:
MorbidHEAT wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:If Minny makes it to the Finals, its going to be a **** show for Boston. Kristaps going down game 1. Horford and his ELITE defense is going to be taxed.

Minny can take Dallas and whoever comes out of the east. They are taking the chip.

Irony for Jimmy is that KAT might get a chip, and Jimmy likely won’t at this point.

The Mavs have two guys that can break down a defense, so it may not be as easy as you think. Trying to contain Luka and Kyrie at the same time is going to be a headache.

But I didn't go so far as to say that Minny was in trouble. I did say the series wasn't going to be the cakewalk that everyone was predicting for the Wolves. But I'm as surprised as everyone else that the series is 3-0 Mavs. No one could have predicted that KAT would be playing this bad.

IceColdCubano · Post #1959 » by **IceColdCubano** » Tue May 28, 2024 11:17 am

contract wrote:
spectrec130 wrote:
TroubleS0me wrote:
yes this was quite the surprised. I thought Luka & Kyrie wouldn't get this far since they both need the ball and the Kyrie antics but I forgot Kyrie made it work with LBJ in Cleveland.

Extremely surprised by the 3-0 lead but IIRC someone in here said that Minny was in trouble cuz Dallas is a serious matchup issue for 'em.

I'm not sure if you mean me ...
contract wrote:
MorbidHEAT wrote:
Minny can take Dallas and whoever comes out of the east. They are taking the chip.

Irony for Jimmy is that KAT might get a chip, and Jimmy likely won’t at this point.

The Mavs have two guys that can break down a defense, so it may not be as easy as you think. Trying to contain Luka and Kyrie at the same time is going to be a headache.

But I didn't go so far as to say that Minny was in trouble. I did say the series wasn't going to be the cakewalk that everyone was predicting for the Wolves. But I'm as surprised as everyone else that the series is 3-0 Mavs. No one could have predicted that KAT would be playing this bad.

Playoffs are about matchups indeed, its been proven time and time again. Everyone saw the team that was built to take down the Denver Nuggets in T-wolves and said them guys are going to go win a chip versus anybody. However that's not how basketball works, Dallas with their having great defenders big, tall, mobile to do the dirty work around Kyrie & Luka, and just let those guys pick and roll T-wolves slow footed bigs to death is why were here. That's the difference here were seeing the West matchups swinging from one style to the next.

Miami's small ball heavy switching defense only works on perimeter heavy teams that don't punish you inside with scoring from their bigs. Which is why we are successful out on the Eastern conference, there aren't a lot of teams here built that way, Embiid is the only one but hes far too injury prone to ever matter. Milwaukee was that at one point but Brook Lopez looks old past his expiration and Miami can cancel out Giannis with Bam. A healthy Miami team would be a better matchup for a team like Dallas

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1960 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue May 28, 2024 12:30 pm

spectrec130 wrote:
Daffy wrote:If we strike out on all the big targets I wonder if KAT could play his value low enough for us to sneak in with a Herro trade.

Rozier
Robinson
Jimmy
KAT
Bam

Doesn't look bad at all.

Understand the idea but do not believe in KAT.

Jacking up bricks while Ant is out there doing everything to keep Minny in this series.

I can’t stand KAT but I don’t understand this stance. Edwards has been ass this series too and had like 4 points in the 4th of a winnable game where he looked like he didn’t even want to touch the ball, 2 of his points in the 4th came down 10 with 10 seconds left or something. He definitely shrunk and I don’t understand the inside the nba guys gassing him up after scoring 26 points on 24 shots in a must win game.