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Post#2341 » by HadAnEffectHere » Mon May 27, 2024 7:59 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:Ja’Kobe Walter, I've never seen a player have a 37.6 FG% and manage to get characterized as a lottery worthy shooting guard prospect where shooting is his greatest asset. He truly plays the SG position where he is either off ball moving around or on ball isolating. He physically looks like more of a lead guard prospect. He may be an interesting league guard conversion where combining his already established off ball work with some pick and roll responsibilities may open his game up for more success at the next level, because he certainly understands basketball without the ball in his hands. Tyrese Maxey is a recent example of this.


Ja'Kobe can't dribble at all and has minimal athleticism.
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Post#2342 » by SelfishPlayer » Mon May 27, 2024 8:05 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:Ja’Kobe Walter, I've never seen a player have a 37.6 FG% and manage to get characterized as a lottery worthy shooting guard prospect where shooting is his greatest asset. He truly plays the SG position where he is either off ball moving around or on ball isolating. He physically looks like more of a lead guard prospect. He may be an interesting league guard conversion where combining his already established off ball work with some pick and roll responsibilities may open his game up for more success at the next level, because he certainly understands basketball without the ball in his hands. Tyrese Maxey is a recent example of this.


Ja'Kobe can't dribble at all and has minimal athleticism.


Let's accept your statement as truth, combined with his shooting percentage and size (that locks him out of ever being an NBA SF), he doesn't seem like someone that should be projected to be a lottery pick after his freshman season.
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Post#2343 » by HadAnEffectHere » Mon May 27, 2024 8:26 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
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SelfishPlayer wrote:Ja’Kobe Walter, I've never seen a player have a 37.6 FG% and manage to get characterized as a lottery worthy shooting guard prospect where shooting is his greatest asset. He truly plays the SG position where he is either off ball moving around or on ball isolating. He physically looks like more of a lead guard prospect. He may be an interesting league guard conversion where combining his already established off ball work with some pick and roll responsibilities may open his game up for more success at the next level, because he certainly understands basketball without the ball in his hands. Tyrese Maxey is a recent example of this.


Ja'Kobe can't dribble at all and has minimal athleticism.


Let's accept your statement as truth, combined with his shooting percentage and size (that locks him out of ever being an NBA SF), he doesn't seem like someone that should be projected to be a lottery pick after his freshman season.


He projected between 12 and 20 and could end up out of the lottery.
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Post#2344 » by FarBeyondDriven » Mon May 27, 2024 11:08 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
HadAnEffectHere wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:Ja’Kobe Walter, I've never seen a player have a 37.6 FG% and manage to get characterized as a lottery worthy shooting guard prospect where shooting is his greatest asset. He truly plays the SG position where he is either off ball moving around or on ball isolating. He physically looks like more of a lead guard prospect. He may be an interesting league guard conversion where combining his already established off ball work with some pick and roll responsibilities may open his game up for more success at the next level, because he certainly understands basketball without the ball in his hands. Tyrese Maxey is a recent example of this.


Ja'Kobe can't dribble at all and has minimal athleticism.


Let's accept your statement as truth, combined with his shooting percentage and size (that locks him out of ever being an NBA SF), he doesn't seem like someone that should be projected to be a lottery pick after his freshman season.


who is projecting him to be a lottery pick? I think there's enough promise as an off-ball 3 and D player that he is among a couple dozen players that could go anywhere from late 1st to the middle of the 2nd. I'd be really surprised if he goes near the lottery
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Post#2345 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 28, 2024 12:42 am

Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?
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Post#2346 » by Chi town » Tue May 28, 2024 12:42 am

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Post#2347 » by Chi town » Tue May 28, 2024 12:44 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


He’s my guy. Jaquez of this draft. Franz lite with a much better 3 ball.

I’d love him for my Bulls at 11. Would only take Holland or Knecht before him at 11.

I think he contributes day one.
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Post#2348 » by JustBuzzin » Tue May 28, 2024 12:55 am

Chi town wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


He’s my guy. Jaquez of this draft. Franz lite with a much better 3 ball.

I’d love him for my Bulls at 11. Would only take Holland or Knecht before him at 11.

I think he contributes day one.

lol I wouldn't mind him as a trade back option for my Hornets. He's getting some top 10 buzz lately. Not sure if we could risk trading out of the top 10.
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Post#2349 » by Jamaaliver » Tue May 28, 2024 3:38 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


Kyle Anderson with a better jump shot?

An Upperclassman climbing up my personal draft board. If we're trying to compete next year, a Jaime Jaquez-like rookie at the SF/PF positions could provide valuable depth. His strong team defense and outside shooting fit perfectly with what Quin wans to do.

Tristan Da Silva | Colorado | Senior

Matchup problem who finds a way to contribute no matter what his own team’s scheme is



Shades Of: Kyle Anderson

Age------------23 years old
Height--------6'9"
Weight--------220 lbs


PLUSES
  • Effortless spot-up 3-point shooter who’s made nearly 40 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3s in college, per Synergy.
  • Coordinated at-rim finisher with a knack for opportunistic cuts and sealing off defenders under the rim, then using either hand to hit hook shots.
  • Capable of making every pass. He can run the break or a pick-and-roll and make creative left-handed wraparound passes to rollers. He makes entry passes look easy. Colorado stuck him in the middle of zones to pick apart defenses.
  • Competitive defender with the quickness to switch screens and the awareness to make timely rotations off the ball.

MINUSES
  • Lacks explosive athleticism, which limits his ability as a roller and lob finisher, as well as his capacity to turn the corner on drives.
  • He doesn’t inhale rebounds, and he’s not the most vertical athlete, so he’s best served as a forward and may not have the flexibility to play as a small-ball center.
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Post#2350 » by Jamaaliver » Tue May 28, 2024 3:40 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


Kyle Anderson with a better jump shot?

An Upperclassman climbing up my personal draft board. If we're trying to compete next year, a Jaime Jaquez-like rookie at the SF/PF positions could provide valuable depth. His strong team defense and outside shooting fit perfectly with what Quin wans to do.

Tristan Da Silva | Colorado | Senior

Matchup problem who finds a way to contribute no matter what his own team’s scheme is



Shades Of: Kyle Anderson

Age------------23 years old
Height--------6'9"
Weight--------220 lbs


PLUSES
  • Effortless spot-up 3-point shooter who’s made nearly 40 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3s in college, per Synergy.
  • Coordinated at-rim finisher with a knack for opportunistic cuts and sealing off defenders under the rim, then using either hand to hit hook shots.
  • Capable of making every pass. He can run the break or a pick-and-roll and make creative left-handed wraparound passes to rollers. He makes entry passes look easy. Colorado stuck him in the middle of zones to pick apart defenses.
  • Competitive defender with the quickness to switch screens and the awareness to make timely rotations off the ball.

MINUSES
  • Lacks explosive athleticism, which limits his ability as a roller and lob finisher, as well as his capacity to turn the corner on drives.
  • He doesn’t inhale rebounds, and he’s not the most vertical athlete, so he’s best served as a forward and may not have the flexibility to play as a small-ball center.
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Post#2351 » by FarBeyondDriven » Tue May 28, 2024 7:42 am

da Silva comp is Cam Johnson
Buzelis comp is Franz Wagner
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Post#2352 » by kobyz » Tue May 28, 2024 1:32 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?

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Post#2353 » by JMAC3 » Tue May 28, 2024 4:19 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


Da Silva really has some concerning stats considering he was a 23 yr old senior and didn't really dominate physically.
At 6-8 without shoes he averaged 5 rebounds per game.

Franz advanced metrics were way better as a soph as a rebounder, defender and passer.
Franz 17.4 assist% vs Da Silva career 11.9%
Franz 12.1 reb % vs Da Silva career 8.3%
Franz 2.3 steal % and 3.2 block% vs Da Silva 1.9 and 1.5%

See him more in Cam Johnson, Zaire Williams type of range.
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Post#2354 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Tue May 28, 2024 4:24 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


Da Silva really has some concerning stats considering he was a 23 yr old senior and didn't really dominate physically.
At 6-8 without shoes he averaged 5 rebounds per game.

Franz advanced metrics were way better as a soph as a rebounder, defender and passer.
Franz 17.4 assist% vs Da Silva career 11.9%
Franz 12.1 reb % vs Da Silva career 8.3%
Franz 2.3 steal % and 3.2 block% vs Da Silva 1.9 and 1.5%

See him more in Cam Johnson, Zaire Williams type of range.


I see Matt Barnes
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Post#2355 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue May 28, 2024 5:24 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


Da Silva really has some concerning stats considering he was a 23 yr old senior and didn't really dominate physically.
At 6-8 without shoes he averaged 5 rebounds per game.

Franz advanced metrics were way better as a soph as a rebounder, defender and passer.
Franz 17.4 assist% vs Da Silva career 11.9%
Franz 12.1 reb % vs Da Silva career 8.3%
Franz 2.3 steal % and 3.2 block% vs Da Silva 1.9 and 1.5%

See him more in Cam Johnson, Zaire Williams type of range.


I see Matt Barnes


That's a good one, his defense is spoken of highly. I was thinking Tayshaun Prince but with less length. Doug Christie is another name from the past.Tayshaun was a slept on four year college player. Tristan Da Silva is entering the NBA as a better proven shooter than any of those guys.
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Post#2356 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Tue May 28, 2024 6:18 pm

Anybody got a clue who the #1 overall pick in this draft is?
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Post#2357 » by zzaj » Tue May 28, 2024 7:04 pm

Chi town wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


He’s my guy. Jaquez of this draft. Franz lite with a much better 3 ball.

I’d love him for my Bulls at 11. Would only take Holland or Knecht before him at 11.

I think he contributes day one.


Yeah, likewise.
My two favorites currently are Da Silva and George. A team that walks away with those guys did a great job at getting value.
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Post#2358 » by Catchall » Tue May 28, 2024 7:11 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Da Silva gives me Franz Wagner vibes. Would not be shocked if he has immediate success.

Anyone else have a comp for Tristan Da Silva?


I haven't watched him too closely. He comes off as similar to Trey Lyles.
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Post#2359 » by shangrila » Tue May 28, 2024 8:15 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:da Silva comp is Cam Johnson
Buzelis comp is Franz Wagner

Cam Johnson is a good one. I was really struggling with a Da Silva comp. I do think he's a better connective piece than Johnson is/was though, which is where I was running into issues finding a match. His passing and BBIQ puts him above a lot of the other 6-9 shooting forwards that came to mind for me.
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Post#2360 » by shangrila » Tue May 28, 2024 8:16 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Anybody got a clue who the #1 overall pick in this draft is?

Sarr is as much of a consensus pick as you can get in a fairly flat draft like this. I think there's rumours that the Hawks might be leaning towards Risascher too, which wouldn't be an absurd pick but it's rumour season so take that with a grain of salt.

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