Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[WargamesX]

I think it's Bridges, in spite of the fact no one thinks the Nets will deal him to the Knicks.

Using the $ of Bogs & Mitch and around 4 picks.

Mitch probably get routed to another team. Nets trade Bogs at the deadline for more picks.

Maybe, though I think it’s gonna be McBride.

Either way, it all speculation but it fits a moneyball approach of getting pieces that fits the team and can play under Thibs.

Aller is part of the FO for a reason.

I think there is no way the Knicks ever hit the 2nd apron; new CBA teams lose way too much maneuverability.
I wonder if they'll hit the first apron. Probably only for a slam dunk big upgrade.
They will absolutely trade one, if not two of the 3 picks upcoming, because Knicks want to always be able to trade picks in potential future trades.

Yep! At most we’ll likely take one rookie to put on the McBride/Sims training regime and move the other for either a player or future protected firsts. This team FO doesn’t talk a lot but there is a method to what they are likely to do.

[Knicksfan1992]

Gun to head... if Jimmy and PG13 are both available for the same package... which one do you pick?

Package: Mitch, Bogs, McBride, couple of 1sts

It's funny they couldn't be more different in terms of stylistically how they play and what their approach to the game is but both probably come with the same amount of risk. They're basically the same age. They both want contract extensions that will take them into their late 30's. Both have had issues with injuries at bad times.

I think it comes down to personal preference and who you think fits better with Brunson.

I lean Jimmy... I think he's more of a culture fit. I don't think being in NY will intimidate him any way and I actually think it would kind of revitalize him in a way. PG has a checkered playoff history. Jimmy, when healthy, has always elevated his game come playoff time. I do worry that his game is destined to just fall off a cliff because a lot of what he relies on just doesn't tend to age well while I think PG being as tall as he is and as good of a shooter as he is has an easier transition ahead of him to role player. But i'm not acquiring either of these guys for 3-4 years down the road, I'm acquiring them because I think I can win a title in the next 2 years. In that case, I think Jimmy helps the Knicks, specifically, do that better than PG would IMO.

It's a tough one but I tend to agree. If Jimmy wants a title, NYK may give him a great shot at it with this current core. I just can't see MIA and NYK doing a deal... do you?

After the OG deal I'm not going to completely rule anything out

But yes it's a good point that Pat hasn't dealt with us since he left. I just think with a player who is turning 35 and a non-shooter there just aren't many teams that are going to be suitable landing spots for him.

If the Knicks want him, then they can probably have him.

[JayTWill]

I know Jimmy played for Thibs for many years earlier in his career but I always wonder how they would fit together at this point in their careers. Jimmy's approach to the regular season is almost the complete opposite of Thibs.

Thibs coaches to win every minute of every game and constantly wants the ball in his best players' hands. Jimmy regularly takes a backseat to his teammates in the regular season allowing them to get used to different situations while resting many games before ramping up for the playoffs.

I know Jimmy respects Thibs and what he has done but i'm curious if he would really want to play for Thibs now. Jimmy and the Heat's success seemed to give Jimmy a little more freedom to do what he wants in Miami but even Riley called him out for his games missed this year. If Jimmy was brought in could he and Thibs find common ground on how to handle the regular season?

[DaGawd]

I know Jimmy played for Thibs for many years earlier in his career but I always wonder how they would fit together at this point in their careers. Jimmy's approach to the regular season is almost the complete opposite of Thibs.

Thibs coaches to win every minute of every game and constantly wants the ball in his best players' hands. Jimmy regularly takes a backseat to his teammates in the regular season allowing them to get used to different situations while resting many games before ramping up for the playoffs.

I know Jimmy respects Thibs and what he has done but i'm curious if he would really want to play for Thibs now. Jimmy and the Heat's success seemed to give Jimmy a little more freedom to do what he wants in Miami but even Riley called him out for his games missed this year. If Jimmy was brought in could he and Thibs find common ground on how to handle the regular season?

idk but riley would never

[spree2kawhi]

It's funny they couldn't be more different in terms of stylistically how they play and what their approach to the game is but both probably come with the same amount of risk. They're basically the same age. They both want contract extensions that will take them into their late 30's. Both have had issues with injuries at bad times.

I think it comes down to personal preference and who you think fits better with Brunson.

I lean Jimmy... I think he's more of a culture fit. I don't think being in NY will intimidate him any way and I actually think it would kind of revitalize him in a way. PG has a checkered playoff history. Jimmy, when healthy, has always elevated his game come playoff time. I do worry that his game is destined to just fall off a cliff because a lot of what he relies on just doesn't tend to age well while I think PG being as tall as he is and as good of a shooter as he is has an easier transition ahead of him to role player. But i'm not acquiring either of these guys for 3-4 years down the road, I'm acquiring them because I think I can win a title in the next 2 years. In that case, I think Jimmy helps the Knicks, specifically, do that better than PG would IMO.

It's a tough one but I tend to agree. If Jimmy wants a title, NYK may give him a great shot at it with this current core. I just can't see MIA and NYK doing a deal... do you?

After the OG deal I'm not going to completely rule anything out

But yes it's a good point that Pat hasn't dealt with us since he left. I just think with a player who is turning 35 and a non-shooter there just aren't many teams that are going to be suitable landing spots for him.

If the Knicks want him, then they can probably have him.

He’s not a good target and would make us look like idiots yet again.

[Knicksfan1992]

It's a tough one but I tend to agree. If Jimmy wants a title, NYK may give him a great shot at it with this current core. I just can't see MIA and NYK doing a deal... do you?

After the OG deal I'm not going to completely rule anything out

But yes it's a good point that Pat hasn't dealt with us since he left. I just think with a player who is turning 35 and a non-shooter there just aren't many teams that are going to be suitable landing spots for him.

If the Knicks want him, then they can probably have him.

He’s not a good target and would make us look like idiots yet again.

I'm curious what your reasoning would be for this take?

[sol537]

Taking out the big guys who haven't been rumored to want out (yet)... Embiid, Giannis, Booker... and the guys who aren't winners or good fits here (KAT, Ingram), we're left with these guys who may be of interest to our front office:

Mikal
Spida
Butler
Paul George

...I don't think we've ruled Spida out yet... even though it's not a "perfect" fit on paper... he did want us two years ago and we wanted him... so.....

[RHODEY]

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[Wildcat]

Taking out the big guys who haven't been rumored to want out (yet)... Embiid, Giannis, Booker... and the guys who aren't winners or good fits here (KAT, Ingram), we're left with these guys who may be of interest to our front office:

Mikal
Spida
Butler
Paul George

...I don't think we've ruled Spida out yet... even though it's not a "perfect" fit on paper... he did want us two years ago and we wanted him... so.....

Cleveland going do everything in their power to keep Spida. I think he's staying. He'll likely hold the crown for a season or two as the highest paid NBA player in history.

[sol537]

Taking out the big guys who haven't been rumored to want out (yet)... Embiid, Giannis, Booker... and the guys who aren't winners or good fits here (KAT, Ingram), we're left with these guys who may be of interest to our front office:

Mikal
Spida
Butler
Paul George

...I don't think we've ruled Spida out yet... even though it's not a "perfect" fit on paper... he did want us two years ago and we wanted him... so.....

Cleveland going do everything in their power to keep Spida. I think he's staying. He'll likely hold the crown for a season or two as the highest paid NBA player in history.

Yeah, they probably bring in Atkinson, trade Garland for a SF like Ingram (or Avdija from WAS? or multiple pieces from SAS?) and then trade Allen for someone who could play next to Mobley. Or... Spida tells them he's not keen on staying in Cleveland and then re-commit to Garland/Mobley as a duo... They certainly want Spida to stay... but not sure he wants to.

[KnixinSix]

Taking out the big guys who haven't been rumored to want out (yet)... Embiid, Giannis, Booker... and the guys who aren't winners or good fits here (KAT, Ingram), we're left with these guys who may be of interest to our front office:

Mikal
Spida
Butler
Paul George

...I don't think we've ruled Spida out yet... even though it's not a "perfect" fit on paper... he did want us two years ago and we wanted him... so.....

I only really love 4 guys that meet the key criteria of young enough, durable enough, elite enough. The 4th is contract consideration relative to talent.

1-Giannis tops the list by far. You trade the farm for him in terms of picks and include Randle without blinking.
2- Spidah is #2 because I just love the personality and his desire to play here. I also think he would fit really well with Brunson. Brunson is in another galaxy compared to Garland. Both are very dynamic players , I think it would work fantastic despite the height disadvantage.
3- Booker- he offers length at the 2, can play a little bit of 1 (at least better than anyone on team currently tho not better than Spidah) and is CAA and still pretty young.
4- Mikal- not an elite offensive guy but kind of a better offensive but slightly less defensive OG Anunoby. Love the fit. If we kept Randle he would be an amazing fit to this team as both a Nova and Thibodeau fit.

[KnixinSix]

Taking out the big guys who haven't been rumored to want out (yet)... Embiid, Giannis, Booker... and the guys who aren't winners or good fits here (KAT, Ingram), we're left with these guys who may be of interest to our front office:

Mikal
Spida
Butler
Paul George

...I don't think we've ruled Spida out yet... even though it's not a "perfect" fit on paper... he did want us two years ago and we wanted him... so.....

Cleveland going do everything in their power to keep Spida. I think he's staying. He'll likely hold the crown for a season or two as the highest paid NBA player in history.

All Spidah has to do is make it super clear to them he will not sign in the offseason and I cant see how they would keep him for one last run unless they were convinced they could make themselves a true title contender. Otherwise you lose him for nothing end of next year.

[Wildcat]

All Spidah has to do is make it super clear to them he will not sign in the offseason and I cant see how they would keep him for one last run unless they were convinced they could make themselves a true title contender. Otherwise you lose him for nothing end of next year.

They have a flawed roster. If they blow it up by using Garland and one of the big men, they can put together a roster more suited to Spida.

Every time he talks, I'm just not getting the sense he wants to get the hell out of dodge. That money is too great on the table. There's no reason to let go of Bickerstaff if there wasn't a bigger play going on behind the scenes. That move was very much a precursor to keeping Spida.

[Spree2Houston]

We’re going to have 15 threads on Mikal Bridges this summer

[spree2kawhi]

After the OG deal I'm not going to completely rule anything out

But yes it's a good point that Pat hasn't dealt with us since he left. I just think with a player who is turning 35 and a non-shooter there just aren't many teams that are going to be suitable landing spots for him.

If the Knicks want him, then they can probably have him.

He’s not a good target and would make us look like idiots yet again.

I'm curious what your reasoning would be for this take?

He’s an aging max player that cannot shoot.

[TeddySakKnicks]

Taking out the big guys who haven't been rumored to want out (yet)... Embiid, Giannis, Booker... and the guys who aren't winners or good fits here (KAT, Ingram), we're left with these guys who may be of interest to our front office:

Mikal
Spida
Butler
Paul George

...I don't think we've ruled Spida out yet... even though it's not a "perfect" fit on paper... he did want us two years ago and we wanted him... so.....

What about Dejounte Murray? Wasn’t he a target before the trade deadline?

[RHODEY]

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[Wildcat]

I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.

[DaGawd]

I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.

doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even

[WaltFrazier]

If iHart signs the 17m deal... if OG opts-in and extends (unlikely, I know)... if Brunson extends for 4-years at the lower amount... and if Randle extends for a lesser amount... NYK are definitely going the moneyball route and it might just work...

I think the signs have been there for year's that’s what we are doing. This summer should be them adding in the final pieces.

I think it's Bridges, in spite of the fact no one thinks the Nets will deal him to the Knicks.

Using the $ of Bogs & Mitch and around 4 picks.

Mitch probably get routed to another team. Nets trade Bogs at the deadline for more picks.

Would Bridges be the star wing you alluded to in other posts above? More defense, good shooter but is he the 3 level scorer you want?

I do like the idea - double down on Thibs defense plus Mikal moves either Donte or Hart to a super sixth man. Depth, Villanova culture, able to withstand injuries better.

But would we lack a bit of scoring?