Zaccharie Risacher

[Chuck Everett]

He's nowhere close to Miller but he's a way better fit for team ball than Miller. If the Hawks keep the pick, Risacher should be it. At the end of the day, he reminds me of Kevin Huerter and Tony Snell on offense and that worked with Trae offensively and defensively, I really see a lot to like.

Rare to see someone use guys like Huerter and Snell as a comparison and it be a compliment. I like it.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I vouched for Brandon Miller pretty hard last year. Trust and believe if I thought Risacher was the same kind of player I would be going crazy for him to go #1 in this weak draft. The fact is he doesn't have that handle or at least hasn't shown it yet.

Brandon Miller had a few ankle breakers literally as a rookie. His handle was much more developed than Risacher. That helps when you try to create your own offense. Risacher is a pure 3&D from what I have seen. If he can improve his handle and create his shot then I can see some Brandon Miller in his game. Right now he's not that kind of prospect.

again, you're comparing an 18 y/o to a 21 y/o rookie. Let's revisit this after Risacher's age 21 season and see if some of us were being a little too hasty

[crows2]

I don't think either Miller or Risacher will ever be more than high level #3 or low level #2.

I think that’s the distinction most people are making. The majority likely see Miller as having the potential to be a good number 2 option, whereas Risacher may only have the ceiling of a number 3 option. You have a different opinion, which is fine. But the opinion of the majority is reasonable too on the evidence currently to hand.

If you think Risacher can be a number 2 option eventually, he might be worth number 1 in this draft.

please explain

everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. Time will tell. It's not lost on me that the same people saying the 2024 class and its prospects are weak are the same people that think the 2023 class and its prospects are great. I see zero evidence that they're right. The 2023, albeit it's very early, looks like I thought, overrated and average at best. And there's no evidence they're right about 2024 because they haven't even been drafted and played in the NBA yet. So I'm struggling to see this evidence you're alluding to.

I'm talking about the evidence of Risacher's game - as in he looks far more suited to a number 3 role in the NBA than a number 2. I think it's a very reasonable opinion to hold. Is that worth pick 1 in this draft? Well then we're getting into the debate about how weak or strong this draft is, which I'm not interested in getting into.

[RyugaFan]

Yeah Risacher's isn't gonna be more than a role player. And it's not about age, a shot creation game isn't something you just develop this late.

[JustBuzzin]

I vouched for Brandon Miller pretty hard last year. Trust and believe if I thought Risacher was the same kind of player I would be going crazy for him to go #1 in this weak draft. The fact is he doesn't have that handle or at least hasn't shown it yet.

Brandon Miller had a few ankle breakers literally as a rookie. His handle was much more developed than Risacher. That helps when you try to create your own offense. Risacher is a pure 3&D from what I have seen. If he can improve his handle and create his shot then I can see some Brandon Miller in his game. Right now he's not that kind of prospect.

again, you're comparing an 18 y/o to a 21 y/o rookie. Let's revisit this after Risacher's age 21 season and see if some of us were being a little too hasty

Bro I'm judging him off what I see right now. Why do you keep talking about his age. I'm talking about his game right now.

[King Ken]

He's nowhere close to Miller but he's a way better fit for team ball than Miller. If the Hawks keep the pick, Risacher should be it. At the end of the day, he reminds me of Kevin Huerter and Tony Snell on offense and that worked with Trae offensively and defensively, I really see a lot to like.

Rare to see someone use guys like Huerter and Snell as a comparison and it be a compliment. I like it.

It's not a big impact play but it's really good to winning offense.

The small movement like relocation based on the defense might not be always taken advantage of by the PG but the ones like Nash, Trae, Luka, can see that and man, it's so difficult for the defense to deal with. So many times, we got guys like Hunter who just stand in the same spot and basically bait out the defense. Risacher will never bail out a defense and there is value to it especially if you have the right PG

There is potential for long movement like Korver or Klay but he's way too weak at this time for it.

[atlantabbq99]

Risacher has the skill sets of Brandon Ingram Brandon Miller but he plays the game like the Knicks' Bojan Bogdanović, probably because Risacher came from the Euro League and that is how he was taught to play SG/SF.

Risacher look big on film, he is listed at 6'10 while both Ingram and Miller are only listed at 6'8. Would like to get an official measurement on Zac as his height and standing reach could be the same as Pascal Siakam

[JustBuzzin]

Risacher has the skill sets of Brandon Ingram Brandon Miller but he plays the game like the Knicks' Bojan Bogdanović, probably because Risacher came from the Euro League and that is how he was taught to play SG/SF.

Risacher look big on film, he is listed at 6'10 while both Ingram and Miller are only listed at 6'8. Would like to get an official measurement on Zac as his height and standing reach could be the same as Pascal Siakam

How does he has the same skill set when he has no handle?

People keep comparing him to wings who can actually handle the ball and create off the dribble..Risacher has not shown that ability.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Risacher has the skill sets of Brandon Ingram Brandon Miller but he plays the game like the Knicks' Bojan Bogdanović, probably because Risacher came from the Euro League and that is how he was taught to play SG/SF.

Risacher look big on film, he is listed at 6'10 while both Ingram and Miller are only listed at 6'8. Would like to get an official measurement on Zac as his height and standing reach could be the same as Pascal Siakam

How does he has the same skill set when he has no handle?

People keep comparing him to wings who can actually handle the ball and create off the dribble..Risacher has not shown that ability.

He was 18 y/o playing with vets in the pros in a defined role as an off-ball 3 and D. Just because you say he has no handle doesn't make it true. Given his likely role in the NBA for his first few seasons he's shown plenty of handles. He can rebound and go coast to coast while dribbling with his head up looking for scoring lanes or teammates on the break. You'd be surprised how few 6'9" guys in the NBA can do this. He can put the ball on the floor on closeouts and get to the rim. He can come off curls and take it to the basket with a dribble or two. What more do you expect out of a 3 and D? This is basically all they do Mikal Bridges, MPJ, Grant, Barnes, Klay, Miller, etc almost never handle the ball. Guys that can are superstars. Who is claiming Risacher is a superstar prospect? I think you erroneously believe Miller has superstar talent so you're offended people are comparing Risacher to him. I can't help you there. That's just something you're going to need to adjust your expectations on. Risacher and Miller aren't far apart as prospects no matter what the "experts" in the media or on here say.

[JustBuzzin]

Risacher has the skill sets of Brandon Ingram Brandon Miller but he plays the game like the Knicks' Bojan Bogdanović, probably because Risacher came from the Euro League and that is how he was taught to play SG/SF.

Risacher look big on film, he is listed at 6'10 while both Ingram and Miller are only listed at 6'8. Would like to get an official measurement on Zac as his height and standing reach could be the same as Pascal Siakam

How does he has the same skill set when he has no handle?

People keep comparing him to wings who can actually handle the ball and create off the dribble..Risacher has not shown that ability.

He was 18 y/o playing with vets in the pros in a defined role as an off-ball 3 and D. Just because you say he has no handle doesn't make it true. Given his likely role in the NBA for his first few seasons he's shown plenty of handles. He can rebound and go coast to coast while dribbling with his head up looking for scoring lanes or teammates on the break. You'd be surprised how few 6'9" guys in the NBA can do this. He can put the ball on the floor on closeouts and get to the rim. He can come off curls and take it to the basket with a dribble or two. What more do you expect out of a 3 and D? This is basically all they do Mikal Bridges, MPJ, Grant, Barnes, Klay, Miller, etc almost never handle the ball. Guys that can are superstars. Who is claiming Risacher is a superstar prospect? I think you erroneously believe Miller has superstar talent so you're offended people are comparing Risacher to him. I can't help you there. That's just something you're going to need to adjust your expectations on. Risacher and Miller aren't far apart as prospects no matter what the "experts" in the media or on here say.

I literally been calling him a 3&D prospect this entire time. You wrote all this for nothing.

My point is he doesn't have shot creation off the dribble. He doesn't really handle the ball.

What was your point?

[FarBeyondDriven]

How does he has the same skill set when he has no handle?

People keep comparing him to wings who can actually handle the ball and create off the dribble..Risacher has not shown that ability.

He was 18 y/o playing with vets in the pros in a defined role as an off-ball 3 and D. Just because you say he has no handle doesn't make it true. Given his likely role in the NBA for his first few seasons he's shown plenty of handles. He can rebound and go coast to coast while dribbling with his head up looking for scoring lanes or teammates on the break. You'd be surprised how few 6'9" guys in the NBA can do this. He can put the ball on the floor on closeouts and get to the rim. He can come off curls and take it to the basket with a dribble or two. What more do you expect out of a 3 and D? This is basically all they do Mikal Bridges, MPJ, Grant, Barnes, Klay, Miller, etc almost never handle the ball. Guys that can are superstars. Who is claiming Risacher is a superstar prospect? I think you erroneously believe Miller has superstar talent so you're offended people are comparing Risacher to him. I can't help you there. That's just something you're going to need to adjust your expectations on. Risacher and Miller aren't far apart as prospects no matter what the "experts" in the media or on here say.

I literally been calling him a 3&D prospect this entire time. You wrote all this for nothing.

My point is he doesn't have shot creation off the dribble. He doesn't really handle the ball.

What was your point?

yeah, he is a 3 and D prospect just like Miller, who has very little shot creation off the dribble himself and barely handles the ball despite being 2+ years older. Point is, you seem upset that people would dare suggest Risacher and Miller are in the same tier as prospects. I get it, the experts, you and the usuals on here disagree. Again, let's revisit Risacher after his age 21 season to see if his on-ball creation matches Miller's. If it doesn't. You'll be right!

[JustBuzzin]

He was 18 y/o playing with vets in the pros in a defined role as an off-ball 3 and D. Just because you say he has no handle doesn't make it true. Given his likely role in the NBA for his first few seasons he's shown plenty of handles. He can rebound and go coast to coast while dribbling with his head up looking for scoring lanes or teammates on the break. You'd be surprised how few 6'9" guys in the NBA can do this. He can put the ball on the floor on closeouts and get to the rim. He can come off curls and take it to the basket with a dribble or two. What more do you expect out of a 3 and D? This is basically all they do Mikal Bridges, MPJ, Grant, Barnes, Klay, Miller, etc almost never handle the ball. Guys that can are superstars. Who is claiming Risacher is a superstar prospect? I think you erroneously believe Miller has superstar talent so you're offended people are comparing Risacher to him. I can't help you there. That's just something you're going to need to adjust your expectations on. Risacher and Miller aren't far apart as prospects no matter what the "experts" in the media or on here say.

I literally been calling him a 3&D prospect this entire time. You wrote all this for nothing.

My point is he doesn't have shot creation off the dribble. He doesn't really handle the ball.

What was your point?

yeah, he is a 3 and D prospect just like Miller, who has very little shot creation off the dribble himself and barely handles the ball despite being 2+ years older. Point is, you seem upset that people would dare suggest Risacher and Miller are in the same tier as prospects. I get it, the experts, you and the usuals on here disagree. Again, let's revisit Risacher after his age 21 season to see if his on-ball creation matches Miller's. If it doesn't. You'll be right!

If Risacher and Miller are the same tier as prospects he would be the #1 pick right now in a weak draft.

I get you love Risacher, but you fail to understand Miller has shown he can create off the dribble and handle the ball.

Do you want to show you some of his ankle breaking crossovers just in his rookie season alone?

I can challenge you to find video of Risacher breaking a defender off the dribble and making a shot but you will never find it.

Ball handling/Shot creation this is why Risacher is not the same tier as Miller. Sorry, but you overhyping your guy. He's 3&D right now that's all.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I literally been calling him a 3&D prospect this entire time. You wrote all this for nothing.

My point is he doesn't have shot creation off the dribble. He doesn't really handle the ball.

What was your point?

yeah, he is a 3 and D prospect just like Miller, who has very little shot creation off the dribble himself and barely handles the ball despite being 2+ years older. Point is, you seem upset that people would dare suggest Risacher and Miller are in the same tier as prospects. I get it, the experts, you and the usuals on here disagree. Again, let's revisit Risacher after his age 21 season to see if his on-ball creation matches Miller's. If it doesn't. You'll be right!

If Risacher and Miller are the same tier as prospects he would be the #1 pick right now in a weak draft.

I get you love Risacher, but you fail to understand Miller has shown he can create off the dribble and handle the ball.

Do you want to show you some of his ankle breaking crossovers just in his rookie season alone?

I can challenge you to find video of Risacher breaking a defender off the dribble and making a shot but you will never find it.

Ball handling/Shot creation this is why Risacher is not the same tier as Miller. Sorry, but you overhyping your guy. He's 3&D right now that's all.

1) I don't "love" Risacher. He's just one of many really good prospects in this draft class that belongs near the top of the draft. It's not a weak draft. Whether he goes #1 or top 5 has no bearing on anything.

2) I fully understand that Miller, at age 21, showed on occasion the ability to put the ball on the floor and create for himself. Could he do it at 18 y/o?

3) Yes, please provide examples of Miller's ankle-breaking crossovers. Not against slow centers. But against actually good defenders so when you claim he's an on-ball creator, it proves that he is. I'm expecting at least a dozen examples against good defenders for this to prove your contention. You're right. Risacher is mostly 3 and D right now. But guess what, so is Miller!

4) Again, nobody should expect an 18 y/o playing in the pros in a defined role to exhibit much ball handling/shot creation mostly due to lack of chances. Risacher floats off-ball, re-locates, runs off curls, leads breaks, etc. That's the only time he touches the ball so he doesn't have the ball in his hands to create much. It doesn't mean he can't. He put the ball on the floor plenty when appropriate for his role

5) Here's Risacher putting the ball on the floor and creating for himself, mostly on closeouts or fast breaks because that's when he had the ball!! Looks awfully similar to the majority of Miller's game in college yet Risacher is more than 2 years younger and playing with pros

Watch on YouTube

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2:21 - dribble drive past defender

3:30 - dribble drive past defender

3:43 - dribble drive past defender

5:15 - dribble drive past defender

5:22 - dribble drive past defender

5:26 - dribble drive past defender

5:38 - dribble drive past defender

6:27 - dribble into pullup

7:27 - dribble into floater

8:03 - coast to coast thru traffic

8:33 - dribble drive kick to open shooter (didn't shoot)

9:47 - dribble drive past defender

10:01 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:08 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:24 - from half-court takes guy off dribble (behind the back) drive

10:37 - hesi dribble drive down the paint

10:52 - dribble drive off curl

11:22 - dribble drive, separate for step back jumper

11:39 - coast to coast, euro-step dish

11:57 - crossover dribble drive draw help and dish

12:07 - dribble drive draw help and dish

[JustBuzzin]

yeah, he is a 3 and D prospect just like Miller, who has very little shot creation off the dribble himself and barely handles the ball despite being 2+ years older. Point is, you seem upset that people would dare suggest Risacher and Miller are in the same tier as prospects. I get it, the experts, you and the usuals on here disagree. Again, let's revisit Risacher after his age 21 season to see if his on-ball creation matches Miller's. If it doesn't. You'll be right!

If Risacher and Miller are the same tier as prospects he would be the #1 pick right now in a weak draft.

I get you love Risacher, but you fail to understand Miller has shown he can create off the dribble and handle the ball.

Do you want to show you some of his ankle breaking crossovers just in his rookie season alone?

I can challenge you to find video of Risacher breaking a defender off the dribble and making a shot but you will never find it.

Ball handling/Shot creation this is why Risacher is not the same tier as Miller. Sorry, but you overhyping your guy. He's 3&D right now that's all.

1) I don't "love" Risacher. He's just one of many really good prospects in this draft class that belongs near the top of the draft. It's not a weak draft. Whether he goes #1 or top 5 has no bearing on anything.

2) I fully understand that Miller, at age 21, showed on occasion the ability to put the ball on the floor and create for himself. Could he do it at 18 y/o?

3) Yes, please provide examples of Miller's ankle-breaking crossovers. Not against slow centers. But against actually good defenders so when you claim he's an on-ball creator, it proves that he is. I'm expecting at least a dozen examples against good defenders for this to prove your contention. You're right. Risacher is mostly 3 and D right now. But guess what, so is Miller!

4) Again, nobody should expect an 18 y/o playing in the pros in a defined role to exhibit much ball handling/shot creation mostly due to lack of chances. Risacher floats off-ball, re-locates, runs off curls, leads breaks, etc. That's the only time he touches the ball so he doesn't have the ball in his hands to create much. It doesn't mean he can't. He put the ball on the floor plenty when appropriate for his role

5) Here's Risacher putting the ball on the floor and creating for himself, mostly on closeouts or fast breaks because that's when he had the ball!! Looks awfully similar to the majority of Miller's game in college yet Risacher is more than 2 years younger and playing with pros

Watch on YouTube

;t=132s

2:21 - dribble drive past defender

3:30 - dribble drive past defender

3:43 - dribble drive past defender

5:15 - dribble drive past defender

5:22 - dribble drive past defender

5:26 - dribble drive past defender

5:38 - dribble drive past defender

6:27 - dribble into pullup

7:27 - dribble into floater

8:03 - coast to coast thru traffic

8:33 - dribble drive kick to open shooter (didn't shoot)

9:47 - dribble drive past defender

10:01 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:08 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:24 - from half-court takes guy off dribble (behind the back) drive

10:37 - hesi dribble drive down the paint

10:52 - dribble drive off curl

11:22 - dribble drive, separate for step back jumper

11:39 - coast to coast, euro-step dish

11:57 - crossover dribble drive draw help and dish

12:07 - dribble drive draw help and dish

Ask and you shall receive!

Watch on YouTube

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He has plenty more those are just the few highlights that popped up. He's had numerous crossovers this season. His handle is much better than you think. To label him just 3&D is disrespectful.

[FarBeyondDriven]

watched quite a bit more film due to this back and forth and I came away being a bigger fan. He's a dynamic off-ball player that is perfect for today's NBA. I can't see him falling out of the top 5. Where all these guys get drafted will be due to need rather than talent differences. Even if he's only ever a 3 and D I think he'll be an elite 3 and D like Klay and Bridges.

[FarBeyondDriven]

If Risacher and Miller are the same tier as prospects he would be the #1 pick right now in a weak draft.

I get you love Risacher, but you fail to understand Miller has shown he can create off the dribble and handle the ball.

Do you want to show you some of his ankle breaking crossovers just in his rookie season alone?

I can challenge you to find video of Risacher breaking a defender off the dribble and making a shot but you will never find it.

Ball handling/Shot creation this is why Risacher is not the same tier as Miller. Sorry, but you overhyping your guy. He's 3&D right now that's all.

1) I don't "love" Risacher. He's just one of many really good prospects in this draft class that belongs near the top of the draft. It's not a weak draft. Whether he goes #1 or top 5 has no bearing on anything.

2) I fully understand that Miller, at age 21, showed on occasion the ability to put the ball on the floor and create for himself. Could he do it at 18 y/o?

3) Yes, please provide examples of Miller's ankle-breaking crossovers. Not against slow centers. But against actually good defenders so when you claim he's an on-ball creator, it proves that he is. I'm expecting at least a dozen examples against good defenders for this to prove your contention. You're right. Risacher is mostly 3 and D right now. But guess what, so is Miller!

4) Again, nobody should expect an 18 y/o playing in the pros in a defined role to exhibit much ball handling/shot creation mostly due to lack of chances. Risacher floats off-ball, re-locates, runs off curls, leads breaks, etc. That's the only time he touches the ball so he doesn't have the ball in his hands to create much. It doesn't mean he can't. He put the ball on the floor plenty when appropriate for his role

5) Here's Risacher putting the ball on the floor and creating for himself, mostly on closeouts or fast breaks because that's when he had the ball!! Looks awfully similar to the majority of Miller's game in college yet Risacher is more than 2 years younger and playing with pros

Watch on YouTube

;t=132s

2:21 - dribble drive past defender

3:30 - dribble drive past defender

3:43 - dribble drive past defender

5:15 - dribble drive past defender

5:22 - dribble drive past defender

5:26 - dribble drive past defender

5:38 - dribble drive past defender

6:27 - dribble into pullup

7:27 - dribble into floater

8:03 - coast to coast thru traffic

8:33 - dribble drive kick to open shooter (didn't shoot)

9:47 - dribble drive past defender

10:01 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:08 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:24 - from half-court takes guy off dribble (behind the back) drive

10:37 - hesi dribble drive down the paint

10:52 - dribble drive off curl

11:22 - dribble drive, separate for step back jumper

11:39 - coast to coast, euro-step dish

11:57 - crossover dribble drive draw help and dish

12:07 - dribble drive draw help and dish

Ask and you shall receive!

Watch on YouTube

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Watch on YouTube

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He has plenty more those are just the few highlights that popped up. He's had numerous crossovers this season. His handle is much better than you think. To label him just 3&D is disrespectful.

thanks but no offense, this falls way short of the sort of proof I'm looking for that he's some on-ball creator. First example was against Garrison "G-League" Mathews lmao. The second Brooks was too preoccupied with the PnR and was caught off balance. And I find Brooks to be one of the most overrated defenders in the league. I was thinking you were going to be able to provide me dozens of examples since you're so adamant he's this on-ball creator so it shouldn't be too hard to find them. Nothing either of these videos showed is much more impressive than Risacher taking guys off the dribble off closeouts nor anything I can't imagine Risacher doing more of as he develops. Miller is mostly a 3 and D. You seem very vested in him being more and he does have promise of being a more on-ball creator (as does Risacher) but he's not nearly there yet. You're overrating him for obvious reasons. That's fine. We'll have to agree to disagree.

btw - what is your ceiling for him or comp? The way you talk about him it sounds like you think he's got Paul George or Tatum type upside. I see him more like a Mikal Bridges who shines in his more appropriate 3 and D role but got exposed with the Nets when he was forced into being more of an on-ball creator.

[JustBuzzin]

1) I don't "love" Risacher. He's just one of many really good prospects in this draft class that belongs near the top of the draft. It's not a weak draft. Whether he goes #1 or top 5 has no bearing on anything.

2) I fully understand that Miller, at age 21, showed on occasion the ability to put the ball on the floor and create for himself. Could he do it at 18 y/o?

3) Yes, please provide examples of Miller's ankle-breaking crossovers. Not against slow centers. But against actually good defenders so when you claim he's an on-ball creator, it proves that he is. I'm expecting at least a dozen examples against good defenders for this to prove your contention. You're right. Risacher is mostly 3 and D right now. But guess what, so is Miller!

4) Again, nobody should expect an 18 y/o playing in the pros in a defined role to exhibit much ball handling/shot creation mostly due to lack of chances. Risacher floats off-ball, re-locates, runs off curls, leads breaks, etc. That's the only time he touches the ball so he doesn't have the ball in his hands to create much. It doesn't mean he can't. He put the ball on the floor plenty when appropriate for his role

5) Here's Risacher putting the ball on the floor and creating for himself, mostly on closeouts or fast breaks because that's when he had the ball!! Looks awfully similar to the majority of Miller's game in college yet Risacher is more than 2 years younger and playing with pros

Watch on YouTube

;t=132s

2:21 - dribble drive past defender

3:30 - dribble drive past defender

3:43 - dribble drive past defender

5:15 - dribble drive past defender

5:22 - dribble drive past defender

5:26 - dribble drive past defender

5:38 - dribble drive past defender

6:27 - dribble into pullup

7:27 - dribble into floater

8:03 - coast to coast thru traffic

8:33 - dribble drive kick to open shooter (didn't shoot)

9:47 - dribble drive past defender

10:01 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:08 - dribble/crossover to create separation for step back three

10:24 - from half-court takes guy off dribble (behind the back) drive

10:37 - hesi dribble drive down the paint

10:52 - dribble drive off curl

11:22 - dribble drive, separate for step back jumper

11:39 - coast to coast, euro-step dish

11:57 - crossover dribble drive draw help and dish

12:07 - dribble drive draw help and dish

Ask and you shall receive!

Watch on YouTube

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Watch on YouTube

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He has plenty more those are just the few highlights that popped up. He's had numerous crossovers this season. His handle is much better than you think. To label him just 3&D is disrespectful.

thanks but no offense, this falls way short of the sort of proof I'm looking for that he's some on-ball creator. First example was against Garrison "G-League" Mathews lmao. The second Brooks was too preoccupied with the PnR and was caught off balance. And I find Brooks to be one of the most overrated defenders in the league. I was thinking you were going to be able to provide me dozens of examples since you're so adamant he's this on-ball creator so it shouldn't be too hard to find them. Nothing either of these videos showed is much more impressive than Risacher taking guys off the dribble off closeouts nor anything I can't imagine Risacher doing more of as he develops. Miller is mostly a 3 and D. You seem very vested in him being more and he does have promise of being a more on-ball creator (as does Risacher) but he's not nearly there yet. You're overrating him for obvious reasons. That's fine. We'll have to agree to disagree.

btw - what is your ceiling for him or comp? The way you talk about him it sounds like you think he's got Paul George or Tatum type upside. I see him more like a Mikal Bridges who shines in his more appropriate 3 and D role but got exposed with the Nets when he was forced into being more of an on-ball creator.

His pro comp has been PG/Tatum/Ingram all those wings can create off the dribble.


What if I told you Miller had a better rookie season then all of them. So you told me Risacher will only get better 3 years from now. Who's to say Miller won't do the same?


Miller was 18ppg as a rookie! Cmon man he's got big time scoring ability. A 3&D player don't even put up 18ppg for a career. You might just be down on Miller and I get that. You keep putting him on the same level as Risacher is wild. But hey if he's as great as you think he should win ROTY in a weak draft. We shall see.

[JMAC3]

I don't think either of you are going to win an argument about Miller vs Risacher right now.

What I would say is that most people expect Miller to improve. Same with Jalen Johnson and Trey Murphy... all those guys are 21 or 22 and we are hoping they continue to get better and do things we haven't seen.

Yet for some reason Risacher who was 18 yrs old a month ago is done developing and he is caged into a 3D box and won't improve. It makes no sense. Especially when with his size and shooting he is going to get plenty of mins to develop.

[Cammo101]

I don't think either of you are going to win an argument about Miller vs Risacher right now.

What I would say is that most people expect Miller to improve. Same with Jalen Johnson and Trey Murphy... all those guys are 21 or 22 and we are hoping they continue to get better and do things we haven't seen.

Yet for some reason Risacher who was 18 yrs old a month ago is done developing and he is caged into a 3D box and won't improve. It makes no sense. Especially when with his size and shooting he is going to get plenty of mins to develop.

No one is saying Risacher won't improve. But, it is unlikely something that has looked like a deficiency in his game will suddenly become a strength at this point. There are certain skills that are easier to add than others, but if you aren't a shot creator at 18, you aren't likely to be one at 25. That doesn't mean he won't still be a really good player though.

[JMAC3]

I don't think either of you are going to win an argument about Miller vs Risacher right now.

What I would say is that most people expect Miller to improve. Same with Jalen Johnson and Trey Murphy... all those guys are 21 or 22 and we are hoping they continue to get better and do things we haven't seen.

Yet for some reason Risacher who was 18 yrs old a month ago is done developing and he is caged into a 3D box and won't improve. It makes no sense. Especially when with his size and shooting he is going to get plenty of mins to develop.

No one is saying Risacher won't improve. But, it is unlikely something that has looked like a deficiency in his game will suddenly become a strength at this point. There are certain skills that are easier to add than others, but if you aren't a shot creator at 18, you aren't likely to be one at 25. That doesn't mean he won't still be a really good player though.

Huh? So at age 18 you expect Risacher to be a shot creator playing in the French A league? Some of the guys in this class were playing high school basketball at that age. He is the best player on his team playing the final 4 of the playoffs. Had 17 pts today on 11 shots playing against a team that is better than anyone Uconn played all year. He had 28 and 21 in games in the last week...

Not many European teams are handing the keys to you and saying hey go create your own shot all game at age 18. So yeah, he isn't Luka, but to try and act like it is too late for him to improve as a shot creator is a pretty hilarious take.