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Re: 2024 WNBA Season Discussion Thread 

Post#141 » by LewisnotMiller » Mon May 27, 2024 10:29 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Brink with 21/2/3/3 7-12FG 3-6 3PT vs the Wings. Insane


Add a couple of rebounds, takeaway a couple of fouls and she'd already be a really high level player. Impressive rookie season.
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Post#142 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 28, 2024 12:55 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Brink with 21/2/3/3 7-12FG 3-6 3PT vs the Wings. Insane


Add a couple of rebounds, takeaway a couple of fouls and she'd already be a really high level player. Impressive rookie season.


The fouling will clean up as she learns. I don't see her rebounding being an issue...will she average double figures like she did at Stanford? I don't know, she's gonna have to stronger, but she had a few + 7 rebound games already.

What jumps out to me really is the high end efficiency (66% TS!) and the 3.2 blocks per. That right there is elite stuff from a rookie.

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Post#143 » by DirtybirdGA » Tue May 28, 2024 1:12 pm

Good for Reese taking iit in on the foul by Thomas...
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Post#144 » by cupcakesnake » Tue May 28, 2024 1:33 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:Brink with 21/2/3/3 7-12FG 3-6 3PT vs the Wings. Insane


Add a couple of rebounds, takeaway a couple of fouls and she'd already be a really high level player. Impressive rookie season.


The fouling will clean up as she learns. I don't see her rebounding being an issue...will she average double figures like she did at Stanford? I don't know, she's gonna have to stronger, but she had a few + 7 rebound games already.

What jumps out to me really is the high end efficiency (66% TS!) and the 3.2 blocks per. That right there is elite stuff from a rookie.

Cam and Rickea might be a championship duo one day. If I was a Sparks fan I'd be beside myself


I think Brink has MVP type of potential down the line.

She's not in a big scoring role right now, so it's hard to project some of her offensive potential. I think she's already a DPOY candidate as a rookie and when I watch her she just doesn't miss shots or make bad decisions.
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Post#145 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 28, 2024 8:06 pm

DirtybirdGA wrote:Good for Reese taking iit in on the foul by Thomas...


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Post#146 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 28, 2024 9:44 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
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Add a couple of rebounds, takeaway a couple of fouls and she'd already be a really high level player. Impressive rookie season.


The fouling will clean up as she learns. I don't see her rebounding being an issue...will she average double figures like she did at Stanford? I don't know, she's gonna have to stronger, but she had a few + 7 rebound games already.

What jumps out to me really is the high end efficiency (66% TS!) and the 3.2 blocks per. That right there is elite stuff from a rookie.

Cam and Rickea might be a championship duo one day. If I was a Sparks fan I'd be beside myself


I think Brink has MVP type of potential down the line.

She's not in a big scoring role right now, so it's hard to project some of her offensive potential. I think she's already a DPOY candidate as a rookie and when I watch her she just doesn't miss shots or make bad decisions.


I think so too. She's got the tools, length and work ethic to take that step. It's not gonna be easy though.
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Post#147 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 28, 2024 11:46 pm

Rickea Jackson is going to be a top 10 player.
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Post#148 » by sikma42 » Wed May 29, 2024 12:26 am

Hamby and Lexie are selfish players. It's obvious Lexie wants no parts of passing to Rickea, who looks like she can get a good look whenever she wants...

Sad to see her just rot in the corner. Also really not impressed with her coach. I've seen every team besides Washington and this looks like the worst coached team.
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Post#149 » by sikma42 » Wed May 29, 2024 12:39 am

Fever are trying to push the pace at all cost. LA coach decides to play this 6'7 woman who is slow as mollasses and doesn't do anything to offset it.

I'm really not sure if he is trying to lose to send some sort of message.
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Post#150 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 29, 2024 12:39 am

Clark is so nasty on those drive and dish bounce passes
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Post#151 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 29, 2024 12:41 am

sikma42 wrote:Hamby and Lexie are selfish players. It's obvious Lexie wants no parts of passing to Rickea, who looks like she can get a good look whenever she wants...

Sad to see her just rot in the corner. Also really not impressed with her coach. I've seen every team besides Washington and this looks like the worst coached team.


It's gonna take time. Rickea just got her first start today. She is on her way.
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Post#152 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 29, 2024 12:43 am

Cam is back in the game and her length is already disruptive.

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Post#153 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 29, 2024 12:45 am

Clark bailed out the Sparks on that deep three attempt. It's the 4th quarter attack the defense
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Post#154 » by sikma42 » Wed May 29, 2024 1:14 am

As of now, this Caitlin Clark "offense" is a gimmick. It's just spamming a high screen and roll with a turnover-prone point guard. She is supremely talented but this isn't winning basketball. Also, there are several other players who can put up numbers in an offense like this (think Mike D'Antoni and [insert pg]). It's just that nobody gets this opportunity for good reason.

Another hot take. I don't think this Fever team is bad. It's looks about middle of the pack.
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Post#155 » by TheSuzerain » Wed May 29, 2024 1:41 am

sikma42 wrote:As of now, this Caitlin Clark "offense" is a gimmick. It's just spamming a high screen and roll with a turnover-prone point guard. She is supremely talented but this isn't winning basketball. Also, there are several other players who can put up numbers in an offense like this (think Mike D'Antoni and [insert pg]). It's just that nobody gets this opportunity for good reason.

Another hot take. I don't think this Fever team is bad. It's looks about middle of the pack.

Mike D'Antoni is like the most influential offensive coach of the modern era. Don't see how that's a gimmick.
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Post#156 » by sikma42 » Wed May 29, 2024 1:48 am

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sikma42 wrote:As of now, this Caitlin Clark "offense" is a gimmick. It's just spamming a high screen and roll with a turnover-prone point guard. She is supremely talented but this isn't winning basketball. Also, there are several other players who can put up numbers in an offense like this (think Mike D'Antoni and [insert pg]). It's just that nobody gets this opportunity for good reason.

Another hot take. I don't think this Fever team is bad. It's looks about middle of the pack.

Mike D'Antoni is like the most influential offensive coach of the modern era. Don't see how that's a gimmick.


If you put any scoring guard in a high pick-and-roll they will get stats. It doesn't necessarily mean you are playing well or playing winning basketball.

Right now there are several players you could switch with CC with and the team would be better. There are several teams that could pick a player and just spam high pick and roll, that player would get more stats but the team would likely be worse.

Right now she can't handle this much usage. It's like when Michael Carter Williams/Tyreke Evans won ROTY (it wasn't a recipe for winning). Obviously CC is more talented but similarly, its not winning basketball at this point. She has to get a lot better to be able to handle this much responsibility and usage. And with that said, nobody has ever won a title with an offense like that.
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Post#157 » by Braggins » Wed May 29, 2024 1:54 am

Nalyssa Smith has been a big disappointment this year. Her offense has actually looked pretty good, but her defense and overall effort has been atrocious. It stands out like a sore thumb now that the Fever aren't tanking. She has a lot of talent, but she needs to step it up.

Speaking of things that stick out like a sore thumb now that the Fever aren't tanking, I think Wheeler might be in the running for the worst player in the league.
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Post#158 » by TheSuzerain » Wed May 29, 2024 2:02 am

sikma42 wrote:
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sikma42 wrote:As of now, this Caitlin Clark "offense" is a gimmick. It's just spamming a high screen and roll with a turnover-prone point guard. She is supremely talented but this isn't winning basketball. Also, there are several other players who can put up numbers in an offense like this (think Mike D'Antoni and [insert pg]). It's just that nobody gets this opportunity for good reason.

Another hot take. I don't think this Fever team is bad. It's looks about middle of the pack.

Mike D'Antoni is like the most influential offensive coach of the modern era. Don't see how that's a gimmick.


If you put any scoring guard in a high pick-and-roll they will get stats. It doesn't necessarily mean you are playing well or playing winning basketball.

Right now there are several players you could switch with CC with and the team would be better. There are several teams that could pick a player and just spam high pick and roll, that player would get more stats but the team would likely be worse.

Right now she can't handle this much usage. It's like when Michael Carter Williams/Tyreke Evans won ROTY (it wasn't a recipe for winning). Obviously CC is more talented but similarly, its not winning basketball at this point. She has to get a lot better to be able to handle this much responsibility and usage. And with that said, nobody has ever won a title with an offense like that.

Nah. Pull-up 3's aren't normal in the WNBA. She's not shooting them that well yet but if she can hit them better, it's going to vault them way up the offensive rankings.

WNBA offense is really inefficient. Average ORating of 103. Can pretty obviously optimize Clark-ball well above that. Their spot up shooting has been crap and they don't really have a legit P&R partner either.
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Post#159 » by cupcakesnake » Wed May 29, 2024 1:51 pm

sikma42 wrote:As of now, this Caitlin Clark "offense" is a gimmick. It's just spamming a high screen and roll with a turnover-prone point guard. She is supremely talented but this isn't winning basketball. Also, there are several other players who can put up numbers in an offense like this (think Mike D'Antoni and [insert pg]). It's just that nobody gets this opportunity for good reason.

Another hot take. I don't think this Fever team is bad. It's looks about middle of the pack.


I think any analysis of the Fever has to acknowledge their schedule to start the season. I've said it before but it bears repeating.

Besides the 2 games against the Sparks (which they split), the Fever have only played the projected top 4 teams in the league. New York twice, Conneticut twice, Las Vegas and Seattle. I think even a huge Fever optimist could have only hoped for beating the Sparks twice and stealing 1 game from the contenders. Them being 1-7 isn't a disapointment, it was always the most likely outcome of their first 8 games. They still have to play Seattle and New York over their next 3 games (the other is against Chicago and they've got to go hard for that one!).]

I think we'll learn more about the Fever in the middle part of the season. Right now they're simply losing games they're supposed to lose against teams that are simply WAY better than them. It makes your offense look worse when you go up against elite defense, and you defense is worse for going up against elite offense. That's almost all we've seen them do so far.
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Post#160 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 29, 2024 2:35 pm

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sikma42 wrote:As of now, this Caitlin Clark "offense" is a gimmick. It's just spamming a high screen and roll with a turnover-prone point guard. She is supremely talented but this isn't winning basketball. Also, there are several other players who can put up numbers in an offense like this (think Mike D'Antoni and [insert pg]). It's just that nobody gets this opportunity for good reason.

Another hot take. I don't think this Fever team is bad. It's looks about middle of the pack.


I think any analysis of the Fever has to acknowledge their schedule to start the season. I've said it before but it bears repeating.

Besides the 2 games against the Sparks (which they split), the Fever have only played the projected top 4 teams in the league. New York twice, Conneticut twice, Las Vegas and Seattle. I think even a huge Fever optimist could have only hoped for beating the Sparks twice and stealing 1 game from the contenders. Them being 1-7 isn't a disapointment, it was always the most likely outcome of their first 8 games. They still have to play Seattle and New York over their next 3 games (the other is against Chicago and they've got to go hard for that one!).]

I think we'll learn more about the Fever in the middle part of the season. Right now they're simply losing games they're supposed to lose against teams that are simply WAY better than them. It makes your offense look worse when you go up against elite defense, and you defense is worse for going up against elite offense. That's almost all we've seen them do so far.


Bingo. The Fever has been facing murderer's row since the start of the season. They are still trying to figure things out and are very young.
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