** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

[Arsenal]

Pacers preparing to MAX out Pascal Siakam. Zero reason we shouldn't do the same - offer him a MAX 3 + 1 (PO) for a real chance to win titles alongside Jo and Max:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275877/Pacers-Preparing-Max-Contract-Offer-To-Pascal-Siakam

How he played in the playoffs completely changed my opinion on him. He was a big reason why the Pacers choked to a soft loser Celtics team that tried everything in their power to blow that series. At the ends of games Siakam couldn't generate offense for them. He can't create his own shot, he's not an elite finisher, and he can't shoot. They gave the ball to him at the ends of games and he couldn't do anything. He'd either force ugly shots or try to create something, be stifled, and end up passing it off to someone else. I honestly want nothing to do with him after how he did in the playoffs in those types of spots, because those types of spots are the exact type of thing the Sixers are trying to correct. The Sixers are fine with Embiid and Maxey from minutes 1-40 of a baketball game. It's the last 8 minutes where they falter. And Siakam doesn't help in that regard. Of the two ex Raptors I'd honestly rather have OG because at least he can shoot the 3 and is an elite defender and he'd have a definitive role.

That's all fine and good, however he was the #1 option on Indiana. Here he's the #3 and will have Jo and Max on the court with him so defenses will not be able to focus on him. As a #3 option he's a great fit assuming we surround the Big 3 w/shooters.

[youngcrev]

https://www.rightstorickysanchez.com/p/sixers-trade-draft-night-2024-16th-pick

Fun article. I personally don't think Eason is a realistic get, but he'd be an amazing one. He's like the prototype of what I want next to Embiid at the 4.

Yes Tari Eason is a guy I'd happily trade #16 for. The other guys on the list (Okoro, NAW, Dosunmu) no thanks.

OTOH very unlikely the Rockets do it unless there is someone they absolutely love sitting there available at #!6.

Agreed, wouldn't do it for the other guys.

I guess it's possible the Rockets take another forward at #3 overall and add to the log jam, making him more available.

[76ciology]

I don't think the Rockets will trade Eason for the 16th pick. They need to win now, and if they make any trades, it would be to exchange their depth for more talent.

[76ciology]

Pacers preparing to MAX out Pascal Siakam. Zero reason we shouldn't do the same - offer him a MAX 3 + 1 (PO) for a real chance to win titles alongside Jo and Max:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275877/Pacers-Preparing-Max-Contract-Offer-To-Pascal-Siakam

How he played in the playoffs completely changed my opinion on him. He was a big reason why the Pacers choked to a soft loser Celtics team that tried everything in their power to blow that series. At the ends of games Siakam couldn't generate offense for them. He can't create his own shot, he's not an elite finisher, and he can't shoot. They gave the ball to him at the ends of games and he couldn't do anything. He'd either force ugly shots or try to create something, be stifled, and end up passing it off to someone else. I honestly want nothing to do with him after how he did in the playoffs in those types of spots, because those types of spots are the exact type of thing the Sixers are trying to correct. The Sixers are fine with Embiid and Maxey from minutes 1-40 of a baketball game. It's the last 8 minutes where they falter. And Siakam doesn't help in that regard. Of the two ex Raptors I'd honestly rather have OG because at least he can shoot the 3 and is an elite defender and he'd have a definitive role.

That's all fine and good, however he was the #1 option on Indiana. Here he's the #3 and will have Jo and Max on the court with him so defenses will not be able to focus on him. As a #3 option he's a great fit assuming we surround the Big 3 w/shooters.

Agreed. Siakam is not a good #1 option, but he would be effective as the third option alongside Embiid and Maxey. He could also play the two-man game with Maxey when Embiid is on the bench. Defensively, Oubre, Batum, and Siakam provide us with so much length that it may lessen Embiid’s load, keeping him fresh down the stretch.

The third option on our team needs to make an impact early in the half when defenders are trying to avoid foul trouble, which Embiid usually exploits to pad his points. He should be able to score from the elbow in the two-man game with Maxey, shoot corner threes, and finish around the rim when playing with Embiid and Maxey. On defense, he should make his length, energy, and athleticism felt.

[FireMorey]

Pacers preparing to MAX out Pascal Siakam. Zero reason we shouldn't do the same - offer him a MAX 3 + 1 (PO) for a real chance to win titles alongside Jo and Max:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275877/Pacers-Preparing-Max-Contract-Offer-To-Pascal-Siakam

How he played in the playoffs completely changed my opinion on him. He was a big reason why the Pacers choked to a soft loser Celtics team that tried everything in their power to blow that series. At the ends of games Siakam couldn't generate offense for them. He can't create his own shot, he's not an elite finisher, and he can't shoot. They gave the ball to him at the ends of games and he couldn't do anything. He'd either force ugly shots or try to create something, be stifled, and end up passing it off to someone else. I honestly want nothing to do with him after how he did in the playoffs in those types of spots, because those types of spots are the exact type of thing the Sixers are trying to correct. The Sixers are fine with Embiid and Maxey from minutes 1-40 of a baketball game. It's the last 8 minutes where they falter. And Siakam doesn't help in that regard. Of the two ex Raptors I'd honestly rather have OG because at least he can shoot the 3 and is an elite defender and he'd have a definitive role.

That's all fine and good, however he was the #1 option on Indiana. Here he's the #3 and will have Jo and Max on the court with him so defenses will not be able to focus on him. As a #3 option he's a great fit assuming we surround the Big 3 w/shooters.

While this is true, I don’t think his skill set helps the Sixers very much. His strengths don’t align with the Sixers weaknesses

[76ciology]

SGA, Brunson, Ant and Doncic bag: between the legs to either step back mostly non strong side or drive mostly towards strong side with a fake and array of pivot moves at mid-range. If not, call a two man game and shoot over the drop defender.

[the_process]

I sincerely hope and believe that Morey has a better plan than begging old players to take $200 million and ending up being used as leverage, or worse yet having one of them sign here because they didn't get their way from an L.A. team.

Because if that and a Zack Lavine fallback option are his big plans after punting a season, then I really wish Harris would schiitcan him before any of this idiocy even begins.

I wouldn't count on it. Now Jimmy's agent (through Pompey) is chiming in saying Morey will give his guy the two year extension if the Sixers were to acquire him.

Every vet player who wants more money is going to try to use the Sixers as leverage.

Morey just calculates odds and keeps throwing all his chips in the middle at anything over 5%.

[Jhawk03]

It's kinda weird seeing the word leverage being thrown around so loosely. Almost as if Morey is both unaware of the fact that he's been in this situation before and that no star ever seems to want to sign here.

[sammorey]

Reading the tea leaves from all the reports, this is my guesstimation on Morey's priority list in order:

[Sixers consider doable]
1. Sign Paul George

[Sixers desire, but consider unlikely]
2. Sign Lebron James
3. Trade for a splash superstar like Donovan Mitchell or Durant
4. Trade for Jimmy Butler
5. Sign OG Anunoby

[Sixers consider doable, but view as less appealing]
6. Trade for Brandon Ingram
7. Sign guys like Klay Thompson for 1+1 deals to keep flexibility.
8. Take on bad contracts with draft picks attached like Lavine.

This is almost exactly what I think. I would change a few things:

1) I think he would slightly prefer Lebron over Paul George. Slightly better player, and less financial risk.
2) I would remove Donovan Mitchell, I don't think he makes sense with Maxey, and analytics people think he's overrated

Also, fwiw, I think a Butler trade is more likely than signing PG or Lebron. Their teams can't lose them and I doubt they want to leave. Both Miami and Philadelphia have strong incentives for completing a Butler trade. The Heat are about to pay a ton of tax and don't have a team that can contend. They can do a reset and clear max cap space before Bam has to sign a more expensive contract.

[eyeatoma]

Reading the tea leaves from all the reports, this is my guesstimation on Morey's priority list in order:

[Sixers consider doable]
1. Sign Paul George

[Sixers desire, but consider unlikely]
2. Sign Lebron James
3. Trade for a splash superstar like Donovan Mitchell or Durant
4. Trade for Jimmy Butler
5. Sign OG Anunoby

[Sixers consider doable, but view as less appealing]
6. Trade for Brandon Ingram
7. Sign guys like Klay Thompson for 1+1 deals to keep flexibility.
8. Take on bad contracts with draft picks attached like Lavine.

This is almost exactly what I think. I would change a few things:

1) I think he would slightly prefer Lebron over Paul George. Slightly better player, and less financial risk.
2) I would remove Donovan Mitchell, I don't think he makes sense with Maxey, and analytics people think he's overrated

Also, fwiw, I think a Butler trade is more likely than signing PG or Lebron. Their teams can't lose them and I doubt they want to leave. Both Miami and Philadelphia have strong incentives for completing a Butler trade. The Heat are about to pay a ton of tax and don't have a team that can contend. They can do a reset and clear max cap space before Bam has to sign a more expensive contract.

LeBron slightly better than Paul George... Okay buddy

[sammorey]

You guys need to trust Morey. He has been handcuffed since he took over the team and has done well on the margins. This is his summer with complete financial and pick flexibility. I expect the team to be better than anyone here has proposed. Nobody understands dealmaking better than Morey.

I'd be very surprised if we don't enter the year with top 3 title odds.

[ProcessDoctor]

Please tell me we don’t have another burner situation on our hands.

[Iscull]

Reading the tea leaves from all the reports, this is my guesstimation on Morey's priority list in order:

[Sixers consider doable]
1. Sign Paul George

[Sixers desire, but consider unlikely]
2. Sign Lebron James
3. Trade for a splash superstar like Donovan Mitchell or Durant
4. Trade for Jimmy Butler
5. Sign OG Anunoby

[Sixers consider doable, but view as less appealing]
6. Trade for Brandon Ingram
7. Sign guys like Klay Thompson for 1+1 deals to keep flexibility.
8. Take on bad contracts with draft picks attached like Lavine.

This is almost exactly what I think. I would change a few things:

1) I think he would slightly prefer Lebron over Paul George. Slightly better player, and less financial risk.
2) I would remove Donovan Mitchell, I don't think he makes sense with Maxey, and analytics people think he's overrated

Also, fwiw, I think a Butler trade is more likely than signing PG or Lebron. Their teams can't lose them and I doubt they want to leave. Both Miami and Philadelphia have strong incentives for completing a Butler trade. The Heat are about to pay a ton of tax and don't have a team that can contend. They can do a reset and clear max cap space before Bam has to sign a more expensive contract.

LeBron slightly better than Paul George... Okay buddy

I think he is in the playoffs, which is what we need. Lebron averaged 27, 8, 6 against the nuggets. If we had that kind of contribution from the Harris spot, we’d be playing the Celtics in game 5/6 now.

[Mik317]

and thats what its going to come down to.

Whoever we sign/trade for will have flaws either short term or long term lol. They just have to be better than Tobias was this playoffs. Having a third guy give you **** anything opens up a lot more than people realize. It makes it so your best players don't have to be borderline perfect to just stay even ffs. You shouldn't need you best players to score 40 or 50 to win by 2 lol. Tatum has been mid at best for some games for example but they have gotten good performances from their 3-6 guys rather consistantly...so whenever he stops being mid they'd probably blow teams the **** out...not to mention his less than clutch performance in the clutch this run doesn't matter because others come up big for him. Thats the cliffnotes version of why having an even semi consistent 3 guy (god forbid a consistent 4th one) would alleviate a lot of (NOT ALL) of Biid's flaws.

In the past playoff runs there has been always one or two mainline players that took up capspace that gave us absolutely nothing at times....can't win that way. Everyone who sees the floor in the playoffs HAS to bring value...even if that value isn't big points. We lost to the Knicks because every guy who touched the floor gave them something.

So be it PG, Jimmy, Bron, Ingram, Lavine, or whoever...even in their diminishing talent they just can't be pointless on the floor...PG's shooting will mean teams will still have to worry about giving him open looks...Tobias lack of a quick trigger and needing rhythm to get going made it easy to recover to him. Jimmy while losing a step is strong as **** and while not a quick trigger shooter himself, teams will still have to be wary of him due to his cutting or just stepping into a middy where he is dangerous, not to mention his on ball ability giving us another method of attack (same goes for PG I guess). Bron's circus would be annoying but the same applies to him. Ingram I am iffy on as he just had a Tobias level series tho. LaVine has never been in a real playoff series soooo But still.

TBF they just have to be better than Tobias was THIS past playoffs (I think he had been pretty solid in previous years but that could have been to others having more explosively bad performances those years lol)

[Arsenal]

Yeah this. You replace The Contract w/Paul George or Jimmy Butler on this year's team and barring injuries we are right up there with Boston as the top 2 title contenders.

[Tony Franciosa]

Tobias scored 0 points in an elimination game this year. NEVER FORGET.

[eyeatoma]

Don't know why they just don't do 5 picks, Reed, and Melton and go get Lauri/Mikal. We'd still have capspace. Would take all the doubt out.

Overpay and go get the sure thing.

[Negrodamus]

GMbiid going to force Morey to overpay for his buddy Jimmy.

Just wanted to take a stab at a provocative NBA Tweet format.

[Stanford]

Don't know why they just don't do 5 picks, Reed, and Melton and go get Lauri/Mikal. We'd still have capspace. Would take all the doubt out.

Overpay and go get the sure thing.

Neither are a sure thing, especially at that price. Lauri has never played in a playoff game.

[ProcessDoctor]

The Mikal love on here cracks me up. He’s become overrated.