** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

[eyeatoma]

Don't know why they just don't do 5 picks, Reed, and Melton and go get Lauri/Mikal. We'd still have capspace. Would take all the doubt out.

Overpay and go get the sure thing.

Neither are a sure thing, especially at that price. Lauri has never played in playoff game.

Both are atleast 80% of the other schmucks we're trying to get, and you have less of the injury concerns. I agree with the playoff experience though. Just think tying to PG is so futile, when we know he'll fall off a cliff.

Jimmy, I actually have more confidence in as long as he's healthy. Team building would suck though because we'd give up all our capspace, and most of our picks.

[mjkvol]

It's kinda weird seeing the word leverage being thrown around so loosely. Almost as if Morey is both unaware of the fact that he's been in this situation before and that no star ever seems to want to sign here.

This is my thinking as well. Morey has certainly been gaming this out for a lot longer than just the end of the season, and understands every angle of every potential move. He isn't going to be blindsided by some agent attempting to use the Sixers as leverage at this point.

And this idea that the handful of possible roster building moves that the hack media "insiders" are being fed and reporting ad nauseum as the 'only options' the Sixers will have is nothing short of laughable. Going into every off season the same thing occurs - a few known free agents and trade rumors - and every time more things open up by draft day and beyond.

This off season should be that on steroids with the new cap rules looming and teams being forced to make difficult roster decisions. I would assume that Morey and his team have analyzed dozens of possible scenarios and are unlikely to be taken by surprise by any development.

Sorry, but I just don't believe that Harris has extended Morey and Nurse through the next several years to simply sit and wait on some prima donna players and their agents to decide if they will deign to take their talents to South Philly for $200 million.

[Mik317]

The Mikal love on here cracks me up. He’s become overrated.

like the idea of Mikal

not sure the reality matches tho

[Jailblazers7]

A major issue with Jimmy is that we need someone who can reduce Embiid’s regular season load to keep him healthy for the playoffs. Instead, Maxey will be dragging some sorry ass team all season while Jimmy & Embiid collect DNPs for load management.

The most likely scenario is that we sign a bunch of role players to tradeable contracts, which is probably for the best. Ideally, we have a deep & well-designed team that still gives us the ability to make advantageous trades as they arise.

Having 3 max guys locks you into your team a la Phoenix. The reason Boston always gets to pounce on opportunities like Derrick White or KP is that they have the contracts & cap flexibility to make those trades.

[PhillyFan11]

Trading assets to give Jimmy a 3/4 year max is a sure fire way to tank a franchise. We’d be cash and pick strapped with like a 2 year window to win a championship…if not it’s going to be a long dark hole to dig out of.

I don’t see why people are so willing to sell their souls for a short window shot at winning. Morey has a blank slate to build a team for long term sustainable success, the Jimmy/PG route is the lazy way out.

[Slacktard]

Sixers playoff success is predicated on lucking out and Embiid having a two month healthy stretch after the reg season ends.

I don't really v think the way to build A title contender is to double down and need both Embiid AND Butler to luck out and be healthy for that stretch.

[the_process]

Tobias scored 0 points in an elimination game this year. NEVER FORGET.

Was told repeatedly, for years, that Tobias was better than the alternative. Even though he wasn't.

The same **** will happen again when Morey trades for LaVine or some other sad sack.

There has to be a reason for faith. Willing to give Morey this one last shot that he's been creaming himself over for the last year. Zero expectations, though. We'll see.

[the_process]

Trading assets to give Jimmy a 3/4 year max is a sure fire way to tank a franchise. We’d be cash and pick strapped with like a 2 year window to win a championship…if not it’s going to be a long dark hole to dig out of.

I don’t see why people are so willing to sell their souls for a short window shot at winning. Morey has a blank slate to build a team for long term sustainable success, the Jimmy/PG route is the lazy way out.

Pal Jorge is a better option than Butler. Costs zero picks and leaves the ball with Maxey. They miss about the same amount of time I think, but it feels like Jimmy is hurt more.

[the_process]

It's kinda weird seeing the word leverage being thrown around so loosely. Almost as if Morey is both unaware of the fact that he's been in this situation before and that no star ever seems to want to sign here.

You don't say? Almost like he's an introverted nerd with zero people skills?

[Negrodamus]

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Lmao, really?

[Stanford]

Almost like he's an introverted nerd with zero people skills?

Huh? That doesn't describe Morey at all. He's a gregarious guy who has inflated his reputation in the league because the media likes talking to him and he makes himself available more than any executive I can remember.

You're describing Hinkie.

[FireMorey]

The Sixers crossing their fingers for Embiid health is an unfortunate situation they're stuck in. They have no choice. No other team in the NBA could win a title with their best player being significantly compromised. or unavailable. And it's impossible to build around it given how much of a chunk of the cap NBA superstars take up. This isn't the MLB where you can just sign another 300 million dollar player.

You just have to cross your fingers and hope your stars are mostly healthy. It sucks, but that's why I think the NBA kind of sucks. It's really the only league where you have no maneuverability cap-wise to mitigate anything.

In the NBA:

1. You can only win if you have multiple superstars, or at the very least, one superstar who is a top 5 player.
2. Given the reality of the above, you have to pay them massive sums of money which negates your ability to spend elsewhere.

[mjkvol]

A major issue with Jimmy is that we need someone who can reduce Embiid’s regular season load to keep him healthy for the playoffs. Instead, Maxey will be dragging some sorry ass team all season while Jimmy & Embiid collect DNPs for load management.

The most likely scenario is that we sign a bunch of role players to tradeable contracts, which is probably for the best. Ideally, we have a deep & well-designed team that still gives us the ability to make advantageous trades as they arise.

Having 3 max guys locks you into your team a la Phoenix. The reason Boston always gets to pounce on opportunities like Derrick White or KP is that they have the contracts & cap flexibility to make those trades.

Bingo.

Why is this concept, rooted in the reality of what works in today's NBA, so hard for so many to comprehend? And smart organizations like Boston also have a cache of picks always available, while badly managed teams throw all their picks away on aging "stars" and expensive mid-level players.

After years of horrid mismanagement, we finally have a blank slate along with two legit stars, and a real chance to build something lasting, and yet the media "experts" and too many fans are ready to toss it away for old, past their prime "stars" and an antiquated way of constructing a contender.

[Arsenal]

Don't know why they just don't do 5 picks, Reed, and Melton and go get Lauri/Mikal. We'd still have capspace. Would take all the doubt out.

Overpay and go get the sure thing.

Where is this confidence coming from that this is all it would take? I expect it would cost more than this to trade for both.

[ProcessDoctor]

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Lmao, really?

Wild.

If Windy says it, I believe it though.

Hopefully Spida doesn’t wanna play with Ingram.

[youngcrev]

Tobias scored 0 points in an elimination game this year. NEVER FORGET.

Was told repeatedly, for years, that Tobias was better than the alternative. Even though he wasn't.

The same **** will happen again when Morey trades for LaVine or some other sad sack.

There has to be a reason for faith. Willing to give Morey this one last shot that he's been creaming himself over for the last year. Zero expectations, though. We'll see.

I'll defend my previous position:

A - He clearly got worse and lost all confidence or something. Not that he was ever great, but this was the worst he's played.

B - I mean... We had Buddy Hield on the team, which was the type of guy we talked about trading him for. He couldn't even see the court.

C - It's just not super easy to find big forward that can actually play. It's why you'll still see Tobias ranked high on free agent lists this summer even though he sucked.

[Eyeamok]

A major issue with Jimmy is that we need someone who can reduce Embiid’s regular season load to keep him healthy for the playoffs. Instead, Maxey will be dragging some sorry ass team all season while Jimmy & Embiid collect DNPs for load management.

The most likely scenario is that we sign a bunch of role players to tradeable contracts, which is probably for the best. Ideally, we have a deep & well-designed team that still gives us the ability to make advantageous trades as they arise.

Having 3 max guys locks you into your team a la Phoenix. The reason Boston always gets to pounce on opportunities like Derrick White or KP is that they have the contracts & cap flexibility to make those trades.

Bingo.

Why is this concept, rooted in the reality of what works in today's NBA, so hard for so many to comprehend? And smart organizations like Boston also have a cache of picks always available, while badly managed teams throw all their picks away on aging "stars" and expensive mid-level players.

After years of horrid mismanagement, we finally have a blank slate along with two legit stars, and a real chance to build something lasting, and yet the media "experts" and too many fans are ready to toss it away for old, past their prime "stars" and an antiquated way of constructing a contender.

This is the second day in a row that I have come on to vent about the way the "media" and fans seem to want the 76ers to uses their cap space and picks. And for the second time in a row you have said it better than I would have. Keep up the good work sir.

But I will say this one of the best pieces of news I read today was Ballmer is going to do whatever it takes to keep PG. I love it.

[Negrodamus]

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The literal worst case scenario, overpaying, both in a trade and contractually, for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler. This ownership sucks.

[Sixersftw]

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The literal worst case scenario, overpaying, both in a trade and contractually, for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler. This ownership sucks.

Truly. Y'all **** up 5 years ago and its nice that it has been acknowledged but prime Jimmy is gone and this is just throwing good money after bad. I just want Daryl to do something creative once because the telegraphed moves have been underwhelming to say the least.

[brannigan73]

Trading assets to give Jimmy a 3/4 year max is a sure fire way to tank a franchise. We’d be cash and pick strapped with like a 2 year window to win a championship…if not it’s going to be a long dark hole to dig out of.

I don’t see why people are so willing to sell their souls for a short window shot at winning. Morey has a blank slate to build a team for long term sustainable success, the Jimmy/PG route is the lazy way out.

Because our window with Embiid is about 4 years do you honestly think he is going to age well? That being said unless we can some how not have complete garbage around Joel maxey and Jimmy it's a hard pass. Under no circumstances though do I want Paul George. That guy just sits on the perimeter and shoots js. Rarely uses his size and athletic ability to impact games anymore and always plays worse in the playoffs then regular season. One last thing regarding Embiids window I think people are living in delusion land about how happy Embiid is here. IMHO opinion we are 1 or 2 playoff disappointments from him forcing his way out. These guys care about there legacies if the Sixers can't put a team capable of winning a title around him he'll go elsewhere. He knows the clock is ticking. He is not 25 anymore.