Pacers Preparing Max Contract Offer To Pascal Siakam

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Re: Pacers Preparing Max Contract Offer To Pascal Siakam 

Post#21 » by Pickled Prunes » Wed May 29, 2024 7:10 pm

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Re: Pacers Preparing Max Contract Offer To Pascal Siakam 

Post#22 » by Indeed » Wed May 29, 2024 8:53 pm

ontnut wrote:
eureca20 wrote:
Indeed wrote:
It has nothing to do with limited ability to sign FA, particularly, we were in that same category (if not worse).
As for end of contract, there are many ways, they can front load, trade away the contract (eg. Lowry was traded).

As for the Pacers, Hali / Siakam / Turner is pretty close to a contender level. They have a few young players and tradable contracts, so you never know. To beat the Celtics, they just have to get over the tax like every team at the top does.


You can't front load a max contract. If he gets a max contract that means he is getting 30% of the cap with 8% increases every year. Of course they can negotiate a cheaper deal with decreases but that would mean he is getting less than the max. Shams is reliable so that doesn't sound like it will be the case.

Any contract can be traded. Whether you have to attach assets with the contract will depend if the contract is viewed as bad. Lowry wasn't traded until he had months left on his deal with a 1st attached. And the Heat took on a lot of money for the next 2 years in Rozier.

BTW I am not saying Siakam will ever be a bad contract. You never know when a player will decline. He may be good for his entire contract. There is always some level of risk signing a 30 year old to a long term max contract. Obviously if you are the Pacers you have to take that risk. If you want good players you have to pay them.

^ What he said in regards to contracts.

And Indeed, what do you mean it has nothing to do with them being a D tier free agent destination? Nobody's taking a discount to play in Indiana. There's a better chance someone takes a discount to play in Toronto than Indiana imo.

"Pretty close to contender level", I don't know about that. Getting swept by BOS without KP doesn't make me think "oh, they are just a bit of tax money spending away from beating them". Again, like it or not, they made it to the ECF on the back of beating 2 of the most injured teams in recent playoff history. I can't put that much stock in their run until I see it against real competition.

I do think they have some contracts that can be traded, including Turner. As I've said in another thread, it might behoove them to do so sooner rather than later, as I don't think Siakam's max deal (and Hali's max, and whatever their young guys are going to be making in 2-3 years) is going to make it any easier to do so, moving forward.


Pacers salary is 146m
Celtics salary is 187m
Celtics has an additional max contract player (more than Porzingis salary), not a bit of tax money, lol

Besides, Pacers also got their injuries in Mathurin.

Anyway, time will tell if Pacers will be good in the next 3 - 4 years.
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Re: Pacers Preparing Max Contract Offer To Pascal Siakam 

Post#23 » by dkb964 » Wed May 29, 2024 9:18 pm

Do poster understand that a 5 year max for Siakam will pay him 50M a year from his age 30-35 season?

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