** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

[the_process]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275890/Sixers-Two-Other-Teams-Interested-In-Acquiring-Extending-Jimmy-Butler

Who is the other team aside from the Sixers and Lakers?

The Lakers must be one of them, as they're in desperation mode to keep The King at this point.

Knicks...

Jimmy and Thibs reunion, after their shared Minnesota experience?

[FireMorey]

Sixers, Lakers, Clippers if they lose PG.

But I think it really would only be between the Sixers and Lakers. And I'm not even sure the Lakers would be as in on him as the Sixers would be.

[the_process]

Sixers, Lakers, Clippers if they lose PG.

But I think it really would only be between the Sixers and Lakers. And I'm not even sure the Lakers would be as in on him as the Sixers would be.

Maybe GSW if Wiggins and Paul are part of the package out?

[ProcessDoctor]

Trading anything more than a 1st for Jimmy would be the nail in the coffin for the entire process.

[eyeatoma]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275890/Sixers-Two-Other-Teams-Interested-In-Acquiring-Extending-Jimmy-Butler

Who is the other team aside from the Sixers and Lakers?

The Lakers must be one of them, as they're in desperation mode to keep The King at this point.

Knicks...

Jimmy and Thibs reunion, after their shared Minnesota experience?

Hmmm true, only other team I could see are the Suns.

[the_process]

Knicks...

Jimmy and Thibs reunion, after their shared Minnesota experience?

Hmmm true, only other team I could see are the Suns.

Dubs if they're sending Paul and Wiggins and whatever couple future firsts they have left.

[SixthStreet]

What about offering all the assets for Cunningham? Not sure if it gets the Pistons there but who knows if they think Cunningham is the franchise? You'd still have a ton of cap room, and Morey could absorb some bad money to entice them.

[Eyeamok]

Read on Twitter

The literal worst case scenario, overpaying, both in a trade and contractually, for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler. This ownership sucks.

Morey was not even in Philly when he Butler trade went down, Now he is the head of basketball operations and he / the team feels regret? Why? Last year the Heat went to the NBA finals with Jimmy as their main guy. A year later they are willing to let him go. Caveat emptor ! There is so much emotional tugging on heart strings, "Oh what a mistake, The franchise has regret, Oh Jimmy and Embiid got along so well, Friday movie nights were never the same once Jimmy left. Come on this is such BS where is the reason for the trade based in fact and analytics ? You want to convince me that the 76ers truly are looking at Butler, make it make sense to me with facts not by reminiscing on the way we were.

But if the 76ers do trade for Butler I hope the Heat are throwing in a Delorean or a Hot Tub so we can have the Jimmy of 5 years ago.

[Eyeamok]

Might be the best available move, but man is it embarrassing to have had Butler at start of Embiid's prime and then:
* Trade assets and max Tobias Harris as a replacement for Butler.
* Trade Butler for Josh "Useless" Richardson
* Let Jimmy play his prime years on another team just to trade more assets to get him back on the twilight of his career.

It's incredibly embarrassing that two of the moves being mentioned by a lot of people are trading the motherlode for either an aging Butler and/or Mikal Bridges, two players who were here and if retained would very likely have been part of a Finals, or dare I say it, a championship team. I would highly prefer to let the brutal past be just that and move forward.

What's funny is that Silver convinced Harris that the team was not being run correctly and it needed proper guidance. Hey here's a fun idea why not hire a former Executive of the year to run your team? You could draft Ben Simmons then Draft Fultz then have that same executive talk crap about your star player. Then the executive can get a buyout and get replaced by an in-experienced Committee, that will handle basketball related matters. Trade for Butler, then trade Butler, give Tobias Harris a Max contract, draft Bridges, trade Bridges and try to kill the guy you traded him for and watch the team slow burn for 5 years.

Morey can't forget the brutal past because he is standing at the process 2.0 front door, with a massive head start with Embiid and Maxey. Don't mess this up sir.

[76ciology]

Its great that Sixers has a lot of options.

But I dont believe that all the options are equal.

[Jhawk03]

What about offering all the assets for Cunningham? Not sure if it gets the Pistons there but who knows if they think Cunningham is the franchise? You'd still have a ton of cap room, and Morey could absorb some bad money to entice them.

This is the type of outside the box thinking I don't mind seeing Morey pursue. Buying low on players like Cade is a nice plan B type method.

[Lou_23]

Dont think the Pistons are prepared to trade him, but Cade would be the perfect get. Fantastic fit with Maxey.

[eyeatoma]

Dont think the Pistons are prepared to trade him, but Cade would be the perfect get. Fantastic fit with Maxey.

Give them everything we have, and I'd be down to get him. NOt sure why the Pistons would trade him though, didn't they jsut get a new GM?

[mjkvol]

Morey can't forget the brutal past because he is standing at the process 2.0 front door, with a massive head start with Embiid and Maxey. Don't mess this up sir.

Exactly.

I love the Cade idea. My hope and expectation is that Morey & Co. have gamed out numerous potential scenarios like this one.
There are going to be a number of possible moves that no one has even considered at this point.

[Kobblehead]

Nitpicks of Cade are very similar to the criticisms of Brandon Ingram.

1. He prefers to play inside the arc in the midrange.
2. He athleticism is mediocre at best.
3. He's not a good defender.

Can he adept his playstyle to be a better fit? That's usually a tough ask.

[Stanford]

How funny must it be for Pistons fans reading this thread? And Sixers Reddit is having the same conversation about Cade right now. They must be very confused to see their 22 year old star player and former #1 pick being traded for picks before his first deal after his rookie contract.

[Kobblehead]

They probably understand.

The Pistons are worse three years after drafting Cade then they were before landing the #1 pick in 2021.

Cade has been a flop so far.

76iology identified it immediately during his rookie season, he said the Piston should trade this dude because he ain't it lol.

[Stanford]

Yeah, I was wrong. Didn't take long to find:

Langdon first line of busy, trade cade. This guy doesn't have the temperament to be a piston. He's soft imo. Definitely not the leader I want the Pistons to follow.

Everyone has their own definition of blowing it up - frankly, no one on a 14 win team deserves any long term commitment. If Cade could fetch three decent number ones (San Antonio?), you do it. If Duren and Ivey get you decent picks, you do it too.

16, unprotected Clippers, unprotected Sixers, OKC first might get it done then.

[ProcessDoctor]

I would take Cade in a heartbeat. We’d still have like $50 mil to round out the roster lol.

[the_process]

Almost like he's an introverted nerd with zero people skills?

Huh? That doesn't describe Morey at all. He's a gregarious guy who has inflated his reputation in the league because the media likes talking to him and he makes himself available more than any executive I can remember.

You're describing Hinkie.

Fine, he's not introverted.