2023-24 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3661 » by Colbinii » Fri May 31, 2024 2:18 am

OhayoKD wrote:
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OhayoKD wrote:Two of those things are not injuries.


Thanks for pointing that out

None of the 3 things GSP or I mentioned are Lakes in Arkansas

You responded to the claim that the Mavs would have swept without a certain injury...with two things that are not injuries.


Oh I'm just talking about the break-points of the series.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3662 » by ronnymac2 » Fri May 31, 2024 3:05 am

Dallas vs. Boston.

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Post#3663 » by eminence » Fri May 31, 2024 3:11 am

Never fun to see a team you're cheering for go out like that.

Much credit to Luka, came out and showed them what was up in quarter 1 and the Wolves never made a serious push.

I'm sure they'll be plenty of talk about who to trade (always is when a team loses), but I hope to see the Wolves top 7 back together again next season (they're all under contract), big believer in continuity and that was at a minimum the 2nd best season in franchise history.

If that was Kyle's last game in Minnesota I wish him luck wherever he goes, I enjoy his uniqueness on the court.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3664 » by itsxtray » Fri May 31, 2024 3:19 am

eminence wrote:Never fun to see a team you're cheering for go out like that.

Much credit to Luka, came out and showed them what was up in quarter 1 and the Wolves never made a serious push.

I'm sure they'll be plenty of talk about who to trade (always is when a team loses), but I hope to see the Wolves top 7 back together again next season (they're all under contract), big believer in continuity and that was at a minimum the 2nd best season in franchise history.

If that was Kyle's last game in Minnesota I wish him luck wherever he goes, I enjoy his uniqueness on the court.

Continuity has it's place but so does fit on offense and that was the Wolves Achilles Heel this season. Also, the Mavs are going to the finals and 2 of their most important players were gotten at the deadline with the other most important being a rookie. Fit>Continuity
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Post#3665 » by Colbinii » Fri May 31, 2024 3:22 am

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eminence wrote:Never fun to see a team you're cheering for go out like that.

Much credit to Luka, came out and showed them what was up in quarter 1 and the Wolves never made a serious push.

I'm sure they'll be plenty of talk about who to trade (always is when a team loses), but I hope to see the Wolves top 7 back together again next season (they're all under contract), big believer in continuity and that was at a minimum the 2nd best season in franchise history.

If that was Kyle's last game in Minnesota I wish him luck wherever he goes, I enjoy his uniqueness on the court.

Continuity has it's place but so does fit on offense and that was the Wolves Achilles Heel this season. Also, the Mavs are going to the finals and 2 of their most important players were gotten at the deadline with the other most important being a rookie. Fit>Continuity


I mean the Wolves fit well together. Towns makes his shots in G1-G3 and we could be singing a different tune.

It's always interesting how a close series loss just means things are over or can't get better.

Glad Denver didn't trade it's core 3 years ago. Shame Miami didn't trade Butler or Bam after 2020. Brown and Tatum should have been split up 4 years ago, right? Dallas should have traded Kyrie after last year's disappointing end to the season, right?

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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3666 » by Texas Chuck » Fri May 31, 2024 3:23 am

About that real Finals thing....
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Post#3667 » by therealbig3 » Fri May 31, 2024 3:32 am

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penbeast0 wrote:Nah, let's have one of the greatest comebacks in NBA history. At least then I won't have to hear about Kyrie Irving as a 1st ballot HOF player for a while.


Anything wrong with a true statement?

2014-2022 happened


He accumulated a bunch of All-Star selections and helped win one of the most memorable titles in history as the 2nd best player.

lol he’s going in as a 1st ballot HOFer without question.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3668 » by PaulieWal » Fri May 31, 2024 3:32 am

Texas Chuck wrote:About that real Finals thing....


Talk your ****, TC.

I thought the Wolves would win this in 6 :lol:

That being said their series against the Nuggets was still way more fun to watch than this one (as a neutral).
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3669 » by itsxtray » Fri May 31, 2024 3:36 am

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eminence wrote:Never fun to see a team you're cheering for go out like that.

Much credit to Luka, came out and showed them what was up in quarter 1 and the Wolves never made a serious push.

I'm sure they'll be plenty of talk about who to trade (always is when a team loses), but I hope to see the Wolves top 7 back together again next season (they're all under contract), big believer in continuity and that was at a minimum the 2nd best season in franchise history.

If that was Kyle's last game in Minnesota I wish him luck wherever he goes, I enjoy his uniqueness on the court.

Continuity has it's place but so does fit on offense and that was the Wolves Achilles Heel this season. Also, the Mavs are going to the finals and 2 of their most important players were gotten at the deadline with the other most important being a rookie. Fit>Continuity


I mean the Wolves fit well together. Towns makes his shots in G1-G3 and we could be singing a different tune.

It's always interesting how a close series loss just means things are over or can't get better.

Glad Denver didn't trade it's core 3 years ago. Shame Miami didn't trade Butler or Bam after 2020. Brown and Tatum should have been split up 4 years ago, right? Dallas should have traded Kyrie after last year's disappointing end to the season, right?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

You put a whole bunch of words in my mouth. The large sample of the regular season speaks for itself. If the Wolves want to maximize their window they need to at least be top 10 on offense, not below league average. Also, none of what you said guarantees they win the series anyway or that they beat the Celtics if they did, which is the ultimate goal. Also, all those teams found pieces to bolster their rosters which fit perfectly which was my point anyway, so wtf are you even talking about?
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3670 » by OhayoKD » Fri May 31, 2024 3:40 am

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OhayoKD wrote:
STTGLDRILL wrote:
Anything wrong with a true statement?

2014-2022 happened


He accumulated a bunch of All-Star selections and helped win one of the most memorable titles in history as the 2nd best player.

lol he’s going in as a 1st ballot HOFer without question.

Why do you care more about media voting than actual winning?

14-17 the cavs consistently sucked with Kyrie as their best player. 2018-2019 boston does not get better with him. 2020-2023 nets are barely better with him.

Three years as a historically weak second best player, and several seasons with marginal on-court impact and negative off-court impact should not get you first-ballot hall of fame.
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Post#3671 » by Special_Puppy » Fri May 31, 2024 3:46 am

OhayoKD wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:2014-2022 happened


He accumulated a bunch of All-Star selections and helped win one of the most memorable titles in history as the 2nd best player.

lol he’s going in as a 1st ballot HOFer without question.

Why do you care more about media voting than actual winning?

14-17 the cavs consistently sucked with Kyrie as their best player. 2018-2019 boston does not get better with him. 2020-2023 nets are barely better with him.

Three years as a historically weak second best player, and several seasons with marginal on-court impact and negative off-court impact should not get you first-ballot hall of fame.


He doesn't deserve it, but the standards are so low for the basketball hall of fame that he's going to get it
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3672 » by ronnymac2 » Fri May 31, 2024 3:49 am

OhayoKD wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:2014-2022 happened


He accumulated a bunch of All-Star selections and helped win one of the most memorable titles in history as the 2nd best player.

lol he’s going in as a 1st ballot HOFer without question.

Why do you care more about media voting than actual winning?

14-17 the cavs consistently sucked with Kyrie as their best player. 2018-2019 boston does not get better with him. 2020-2023 nets are barely better with him.

Three years as a historically weak second best player, and several seasons with marginal on-court impact and negative off-court impact should not get you first-ballot hall of fame.


Provide me the name of a basketball player with an Olympic gold medal, an NBA Title, and eight All-Star selections in the biggest basketball promotion who wasn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer?
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3673 » by Colbinii » Fri May 31, 2024 3:49 am

Kyrie's Pro Career is like his College Career. 25% of the time he is best in class or close to it and the other 75% of the time he is MIA.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3674 » by therealbig3 » Fri May 31, 2024 3:51 am

OhayoKD wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:2014-2022 happened


He accumulated a bunch of All-Star selections and helped win one of the most memorable titles in history as the 2nd best player.

lol he’s going in as a 1st ballot HOFer without question.

Why do you care more about media voting than actual winning?

14-17 the cavs consistently sucked with Kyrie as their best player. 2018-2019 boston does not get better with him. 2020-2023 nets are barely better with him.

Three years as a historically weak second best player, and several seasons with marginal on-court impact and negative off-court impact should not get you first-ballot hall of fame.


lol, for someone who is being so technical about what other people respond to, you’re going on quite a non-sequitur yourself.

Nothing you said changes the fact that he’s a 1st ballot HOFer. It’s a media selection, and he checks all the boxes. You responding that 2014-2022 happened as to why he’s not a HOFer doesn’t make much sense, because those seasons are exactly why he’s going to the HOF.

Does he DESERVE the HOF? IMO no, I agree, he’s been a generally overrated player with pretty weak impact signals throughout his career outside of this one with some occasionally strong playoff moments, like 2016. But that wasn’t the point.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3675 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri May 31, 2024 3:56 am

My post of being stunned the Celtics would win the chip is very very silly in hindsight now. They are seriously loaded(and I was hyping them up in this thread during the RS about their RS dominance).

Very excited for the finals. Rooting for the Mavs. I think they have to split in Boston to have a good chance.

If I was betting money, I'd pick the Celtics in 6.
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Post#3676 » by PaulieWal » Fri May 31, 2024 4:00 am

TheGOATRises007 wrote:My post of being stunned the Celtics would win the chip is very very silly in hindsight now. They are seriously loaded(and I was hyping them up in this thread during the RS about their RS dominance).

Very excited for the finals. Rooting for the Mavs. I think they have to split in Boston to have a good chance.

If I was betting money, I'd pick the Celtics in 6.


I am calling Celtics in 7. I think Luka and Kyrie just win a game each and then you get one crazy game from the role players.

In a vacuum Tatum and Brown are better than Kyrie at this point but his ability to make tough shots and take over games in a 7 games series is up there with anyone. I am expecting a couple of game 5 2016 GSW type of duo performances from Luka and Kyrie this series.
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Post#3677 » by STTGLDRILL » Fri May 31, 2024 4:01 am

The only criteria isn’t “impact to contention”
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Post#3678 » by Special_Puppy » Fri May 31, 2024 4:01 am

People should prepare themselves for something like Celtics in 5 if Porzingis is healthy
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3679 » by Texas Chuck » Fri May 31, 2024 4:03 am

Not sure why this thread has become Kyrie's HoF case, but he's a lock. Guess what? Rudy Gobert is too.
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Re: 2023-24 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3680 » by OhayoKD » Fri May 31, 2024 4:08 am

therealbig3 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
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He accumulated a bunch of All-Star selections and helped win one of the most memorable titles in history as the 2nd best player.

lol he’s going in as a 1st ballot HOFer without question.

Why do you care more about media voting than actual winning?

14-17 the cavs consistently sucked with Kyrie as their best player. 2018-2019 boston does not get better with him. 2020-2023 nets are barely better with him.

Three years as a historically weak second best player, and several seasons with marginal on-court impact and negative off-court impact should not get you first-ballot hall of fame.


lol, for someone who is being so technical about what other people respond to, you’re going on quite a non-sequitur yourself.

Nothing you said changes the fact that he’s a 1st ballot HOFer. It’s a media selection, and he checks all the boxes. You responding that 2014-2022 happened as to why he’s not a HOFer doesn’t make much sense, because those seasons are exactly why he’s going to the HOF.

Does he DESERVE the HOF? IMO no, I agree, he’s been a generally overrated player with pretty weak impact signals throughout his career outside of this one with some occasionally strong playoff moments, like 2016. But that wasn’t the point.

Fair enough.

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