2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th)

[ajones9219]

I haven't said any of these things. If you want to talk to me, please talk to me. I am not responsible for what anyone else posts. I think you will find all my posts about Boston have been complementary and that they are a clear favorite over Dallas.

Fair enough <3. I have about 4 Mavs fans coming at me in here so hard to keep track.

What do you expect mate? You in here talking like Dallas shouldn't even show up. Boston is a great team, with 2-way players all over the lineup, tons of big game experience, an MVP candidate, another all-NBA player, multiple all-D level defenders, other all-star level players. The team is stacked and experienced.

The issue is Dallas defends really really well. And has for 40 games now. And they have two absolutely elite offensive players who are among the best closers in the game. A team like that is unlikely to get trucked.

And you aren't open to anything but Boston is the bestest ever because they are Boston. OF course Mavs fans are going to take you to task.

Now I can assure you that if Boston blows Dallas out in 4 or 5 and wins by an average double digit margin, I will be here for you to serve me all the crow you want. You can talk all your **** and I will just eat it.

But I just can't see Dallas rolling over for you.

lol Just calling like I see it man. I pick against the Celtics all the time...just not this season because they are literally a historically great team by basically every metric. But no animosity and no crow serving needed. All love brother <3

[ajones9219]

I'm not the one saying stupid things my good man--I'm just laughing at the stupid things being said.

I think this is a brand new series and all information about how they matchup and in what form they are in is relevant. But no I don't believe one h2h matchup tells me more than how both teams have played since then. Sorry.

Boston has clearly played better than Dallas since then as well...but we are being told that doesn't count since we played an easy road to the finals....so apparently we aren't allowed to make any comparisons at all.

Just read the damn box score…

THJ/Kleber/Exum played 55min in that game, Gafford/DJJ 13. Today the minutes were basically reversed and it makes a huge impact, specially regarding defense and rebounding.

THJ useless ass is basically a DNP CD in the playoffs

Watch the game...Gafford was getting torched and was taken out. I just think it's silly to say that every metric we can use to compare the teams don't count because Mavs fans don't think they are relevant

[titlebound1]

Hilarious that one RS game means Boston is going to smoke Dallas and Dallas winning 3 series in convincing fashion against very good teams is meaningless.

We aren't getting the best and the brightest of arguments tonight lol.

So you're arguing that head to head is less valuable as a point of comparison to the Mavs vs random other teams?

Got it

Boston has beaten the Mavs 4 times in the past 2 season btw, it isn't one game.

RS record doesn't matter much. Wolves were 3-1 against Mavs in RS.

The wolves are incredibly inexperienced compared to the Celtics.

Boston doesn't have a bunch of guys who you can hide Luka on and just leave open

[Triple7]

I haven't said any of these things. If you want to talk to me, please talk to me. I am not responsible for what anyone else posts. I think you will find all my posts about Boston have been complementary and that they are a clear favorite over Dallas.

Fair enough <3. I have about 4 Mavs fans coming at me in here so hard to keep track.

What do you expect mate? You in here talking like Dallas shouldn't even show up. Boston is a great team, with 2-way players all over the lineup, tons of big game experience, an MVP candidate, another all-NBA player, multiple all-D level defenders, other all-star level players. The team is stacked and experienced.

The issue is Dallas defends really really well. And has for 40 games now. And they have two absolutely elite offensive players who are among the best closers in the game. A team like that is unlikely to get trucked.

And you aren't open to anything but Boston is the bestest ever because they are Boston. OF course Mavs fans are going to take you to task.

Now I can assure you that if Boston blows Dallas out in 4 or 5 and wins by an average double digit margin, I will be here for you to serve me all the crow you want. You can talk all your **** and I will just eat it.

But I just can't see Dallas rolling over for you.

Nobody really believes the Celtics will blow the mavs easily on the way to a championship, even Celtic fans unless those few homers. I even said that we need to blow them out for us to win, coz if its a close game, i think Luka and the mavs have the clear advantage. I posted that screen shot to show that even when luka is cookin, celtics can just as easily blow them out, if we shoot lights out. We just need to shoot well for 4 games. That’s not impossible to happen.

[Jellybeans]

Boston against the world

[titlebound1]

Hilarious that one RS game means Boston is going to smoke Dallas and Dallas winning 3 series in convincing fashion against very good teams is meaningless.

We aren't getting the best and the brightest of arguments tonight lol.

So you're arguing that head to head is less valuable as a point of comparison to the Mavs vs random other teams?

Got it

Boston has beaten the Mavs 4 times in the past 2 season btw, it isn't one game.

I'm not the one saying stupid things my good man--I'm just laughing at the stupid things being said.

I think this is a brand new series and all information about how they matchup and in what form they are in is relevant. But no I don't believe one h2h matchup tells me more than how both teams have played since then. Sorry.

Yeah it's super silly to compare actual match ups when you can gauge the series based on how the mavericks played completely different inexperienced teams like the wolves or thunder. That makes so much more sense

[durden_tyler]

Series Odds:

Celtics -1.5 (games) vs Mavericks

So, your Celtics bet win if they win in Game 6; Any Mavs series win and/or if Mavs force a Game 7, your bet is a guaranteed W.

[Triple7]

I don’t get this arguement that the celtics had it easy going to the finals, and the mavs had it hard, and like it matters. The celtics on our last finals run, faced KD and the nets, beat the bucks after being down. Beat the heat in a gruelling 7 game series, and look what happened in the finals???? It doesn’ matter how you get there really. What matters is how you prepare for each series in front of you.

[AussieCeltic]

So I love the overly cocky Mavs opponent fan in all these threads. But gotta admit you Boston guys are the best because I read all those comments in that stupid accent. We gonna smotha Luka in the Gaden.

You guys have every right to feel confident. Hell of a team you guys got. Not sure how you can watch what the Mavs did against a much tougher competition and feel like its a cakewalk though. Good luck with all that.

Oh the irony.

Bro, Mavs fans including yourself are doing the same thing about the Celtics.

At the very least Celtic fans can point to stats and recent history which favours them. Mavs fans going off their feelings which is perfectly fine and normal but don’t get on your high horse about Celtic fans when you’re doing the exact same thing.

[Exp0sed]

Celtics having been tested at all, I don't buy this KP is "ramping up" bs, Luka best player in the series by far, Kyrie back in Boston with a championship on the line? meh, Mavs in 6

[AussieCeltic]

Hilarious that one RS game means Boston is going to smoke Dallas and Dallas winning 3 series in convincing fashion against very good teams is meaningless.

We aren't getting the best and the brightest of arguments tonight lol.

Wolves were 3-1 against Mavericks in RS & look what happened to them

Kyrie and Luka played in 1 of those games. Guess which one?

[ChuckChilly]

What kind of knee injury does Luka have? Seeing his knee bloody every game is wild.

[Patches Perry]

I'm surprised Mavericks are +6 in game 1. I'm kind of torn on this series but the last 4 weeks of basketball tells me Dallas is the hottest team in the league and Boston, who admittedly has been the best team in the league all year, has basically had 3 rounds of byes. I'd think it would be closer to a pick 'em. I guess I'll open the wallet.

This is the worst matchup possible for the Mavs, they don't respond well to 5-out teams, they were able to beat OKC because Giddy, Dort and Chet were left alone and couldn't punish the Mavs, Celtics don't have these weak offensive links, still, Kidd may have some aces up his sleeve, Maxi unlocks switch heavy lineup (though I doubt they go for it often, it totally exposes Luka to hunting, Mavs schemes protect him a lot), there is also the "**** you" element, there is no scheme for game 5 against the Wolves Luka, if the series stays within reach we may get this performance again.
Despite the unfavourable match up, I'm optimistic...

Good points, Thunder shot like butt in a couple games against Dallas despite having good three point shooters by percentage all year long (except Giddey obviously lol), can't expect that from a more experienced Boston team.

That said, Boston doesn't have a Shai who can go out and win a game on 4-5 straight buckets when the team has nothing going. Boston's lack of a tier 1 scorer will hurt them, especially when Dallas has 1 and maybe 2 when Kyrie has it going. In those slow drag it out games, those transcendent scorers are incredibly valuable.

[ajones9219]

Celtics having been tested at all, I don't buy this KP is "ramping up" bs, Luka best player in the series by far, Kyrie back in Boston with a championship on the line? meh, Mavs in 6

How's Kyrie been doing again Boston lately?

[ajones9219]

Hilarious that one RS game means Boston is going to smoke Dallas and Dallas winning 3 series in convincing fashion against very good teams is meaningless.

We aren't getting the best and the brightest of arguments tonight lol.

Wolves were 3-1 against Mavericks in RS & look what happened to them

Kyrie and Luka played in 1 of those games. Guess which one?

Don't let facts get in the way....apparently those games don't matter....nor do H2H against the Celtics...or RS stats...or playoff stats.

Mavs fans think they are the best so that's how it is

[AussieCeltic]

I'm surprised Mavericks are +6 in game 1. I'm kind of torn on this series but the last 4 weeks of basketball tells me Dallas is the hottest team in the league and Boston, who admittedly has been the best team in the league all year, has basically had 3 rounds of byes. I'd think it would be closer to a pick 'em. I guess I'll open the wallet.

This is the worst matchup possible for the Mavs, they don't respond well to 5-out teams, they were able to beat OKC because Giddy, Dort and Chet were left alone and couldn't punish the Mavs, Celtics don't have these weak offensive links, still, Kidd may have some aces up his sleeve, Maxi unlocks switch heavy lineup (though I doubt they go for it often, it totally exposes Luka to hunting, Mavs schemes protect him a lot), there is also the "**** you" element, there is no scheme for game 5 against the Wolves Luka, if the series stays within reach we may get this performance again.
Despite the unfavourable match up, I'm optimistic...

Good points, Thunder shot like butt in a couple games against Dallas despite having good three point shooters by percentage all year long (except Giddey obviously lol), can't expect that from a more experienced Boston team.

That said, Boston doesn't have a Shai who can go out and win a game on 4-5 straight buckets when the team has nothing going. Boston's lack of a tier 1 scorer will hurt them, especially when Dallas has 1 and maybe 2 when Kyrie has it going. In those slow drag it out games, those transcendent scorers are incredibly valuable.

Yeh if only we could have a tier 1 scorer.

Maybe a guy who has 4th most 50 point games in playoff history?

Or a guy who had the most points in a game 7 in nba history.

Yeh.. I really wish we had a guy like that.

Shai doesn’t have the playoff performances or experience like Tatum and he’s only 6 months younger.

I know who I’d prefer and it’s the guy still playing right now.

[Sign5]

Tatum and Brown is one of the most unstoppable offensive duos of all time with an elite supporting cast. Can they get it done? I hope not !!

Fixed

[OG-ClipsBwagon]

Xfactor in the series comes down to Kyrie. If he puts down a few masterclass games I just can't see the Celtics countering. They just give me the vibes of a team that will fold the minute Luka and Kyrie begin to pile it on . We've seen them look sus for a few games already. Now they go up against 2 mammoth superstars .

Mavs in 6

[Chuck Everett]

One thing I do wanna say about Luka that I enjoy immensely. He relishes ripping the hearts out of the opposing fans with his play. He's got that dawg in him and just wants to win. You hear people talk about how the Mavs screwed up not building around him properly, but it's simply because the guy enjoys winning basketball games. Some of these dudes (*cough* Troy Murphy, Michael Olowokandi for my old heads *cough*) just played for the check. Not this dude. He wants to beat your arse.

The back and forth between him and Boston should be a chef's kiss.

[___Rand___]

Hilarious that one RS game means Boston is going to smoke Dallas and Dallas winning 3 series in convincing fashion against very good teams is meaningless.

We aren't getting the best and the brightest of arguments tonight lol.

So you're arguing that head to head is less valuable as a point of comparison to the Mavs vs random other teams?

Got it

Boston has beaten the Mavs 4 times in the past 2 season btw, it isn't one game.

RS record doesn't matter much. Wolves were 3-1 against Mavs in RS.

Regular season doesn't matter at all. Teams get into a groove in playoffs. Mavs are hot. So is Jason Kidd. He's out-coaching everyone he's faced right now.