2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[C_Money]

I will put my vote in for Jaylon Tyson at 19. I actually had the chance to watch him in-person back in February at a Washington/Cal game and I knew he was an NBA player the way he carried himself. He really reminds me of Josh Hart the way he can contribute with scoring, defense and rebounding. He was a decent defensive role player at Texas Tech to star who commanded double-teams at Cal.

I think now that he is training at Impact and apparently doing a private workout with Toronto, it is reasonable to see him drafted this early.

Ultimately he can play some back-up PG (he still has a learning curve there), but he can eventually play with the starters in scoring line-ups. He is just going to keep getting better and he is a great team guy whose competitive spirit and good nature will fit well.

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You like him better than Tristan De Silva. I'd give the edge to Tristan because he's bigger, If Tyson had more bounce or athletic ability to pop & finish i'd be sold. If he did tho he probably wouldn't be there at 19.

I also like Da Silva better than Tyson. I like Da Silva’s shooting touch little better and probably more adapt at being a role player in the league. Bigger like you mentioned as well. I think Tyson is jack of all trades, master of none, without clear NBA skill

Always take the guy who has shot creation ability. With that skill Tyson has the potential to be a star, whereas Da Silva will 100% max out as a role player.

[DreamTeam09]

You like him better than Tristan De Silva. I'd give the edge to Tristan because he's bigger, If Tyson had more bounce or athletic ability to pop & finish i'd be sold. If he did tho he probably wouldn't be there at 19.

I also like Da Silva better than Tyson. I like Da Silva’s shooting touch little better and probably more adapt at being a role player in the league. Bigger like you mentioned as well. I think Tyson is jack of all trades, master of none, without clear NBA skill

Always take the guy who has shot creation ability. With that skill Tyson has the potential to be a star, whereas Da Silva will 100% max out as a role player.

A maxed out role player is better than the "potential star" who doesn't make it to stardom tho..

[ItsDanger]

Da Silva has a nice polished game. Has a slow 1st step, so don't think he projects as a starter.

[alpngso]

Some may think Tyson will be Brunson, but some may think he’ll be Denzel Valentine. He has a nice game but had the ball all the time in not so great program. I just don’t trust the production vs tape.

If I am swinging for the fences, I am not betting on Tyson but on Missi or Ware at 19.

Plus, he won’t have the ball in his hands when playing on this team with Quick, RJ, Scottie so why even bother with on ball stuff when he’s mediocre at off ball stuff

[PoundTown]

Some may think Tyson will be Brunson, but some may think he’ll be Denzel Valentine. He has a nice game but had the ball all the time in not so great program. I just don’t trust the production vs tape.

If I am swinging for the fences, I am not betting on Tyson but on Missi or Ware at 19.

Plus, he won’t have the ball in his hands when playing on this team with Quick, RJ, Scottie so why even bother with on ball stuff when he’s mediocre at off ball stuff

He kind of gives me the hope he's a late bloomer. Another name on the successful side would be Jimmy Butler. Jimmy is a powerful and fluid athlete who never really had a ton of pop in his jump towards the hoop. I think Tyson can play off ball. He can shoot and in some of his videos you see him pass it then instantly cut and get it back. Just because he was in an on-ball role, doesn't mean he can't play and thrive in an off ball role. He has good IQ, but also tends to get a little too riskay with the pass.

I just see a lot of Dillon Brooks in him, size wise and the way he plays. Would easily take on a on ball role, albeit inefficiently (Dillon in Memphis), or become a super effective role player (Dillon in Team Canada and Houston, 55%TS) if he tones down the chucking and takes a lesser role. But, who knows, maybe he just continues to get better and better, a la Jimmy. You have to remember, no one thought Jimmy would become Jimmy, or else he wouldn't have lasted until 30. My expectation is more of a Dillon type player though, just reminding everyone the draft is a crapshoot and some players out perform their perceived abilities.

[PhilBlackson]

I've stated a few times now that I think our FO is set on drafting a wing so I'm expecting the pick to be TDS buuuut....

Of the names they've looked at so far, I really hope they just take Ware.

He's easily the highest ceiling of anyone at that pick & we can already see he theoretically would be a perfect fit for Scottie long term as a big lob threat that could also step out from the 3. If we help him develop anymore skill in the post or from the mid (like Embiid), his ceiling could be quite a bit higher than people are giving credit for. To be clear I'm NOT at all comparing him to Embiid lol I'm just saying you try and teach some of that considering his height and shooting potential. He'll need to put on more weight to really bang down in the post but there may be things you can help him expand in in the mid in particular.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

DaRon Holmes should probably be a lottery pick in this draft, so if he's there at 19, I'd draft him

[Dalek]

I also like Da Silva better than Tyson. I like Da Silva’s shooting touch little better and probably more adapt at being a role player in the league. Bigger like you mentioned as well. I think Tyson is jack of all trades, master of none, without clear NBA skill

Always take the guy who has shot creation ability. With that skill Tyson has the potential to be a star, whereas Da Silva will 100% max out as a role player.

A maxed out role player is better than the "potential star" who doesn't make it to stardom tho..

I think a good comp for Da Silva is Dean Wade. He is 6'9, 225 lbs, shoots just under 40% from three but only gives you 5 a night. He is basically a stretch four which is not the most common of archetypes in the NBA anymore. Maybe there is something more to Da Silva's game but he his FTr and AST% is pretty low and he really benefited playing on a pretty good team so he had more open looks.

Tyson was on Cal which was a terrible team where his best teammate was Fardas Aimaq (Vancouver BC represent). He faced way more defensive attention, had a way higher usage and played a pretty efficient game getting to 20 PPG. Tyson has a high floor IMO because of the rebounding and shooting. We saw last year how guards who rebound like Podz can be pretty impactful.

Tyson is even better because he has size to guard 2-4 in most cases. When he wasn't running the whole offense he defended at a high clip at Texas Tech where he had a 3 DBPM. My feeling is he projects at minimum as a Josh Hart clone, and at best as a Demar Derozan type of scorer.

[Dalek]

This video of Bub talking about his game is great. You can tell he loves basketball and his coach dad helped him understand the game.

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I have doubts on his downhill attack and finishing ability, but as an Isaiah Joe with some passing is pretty enticing.

[PhilBlackson]

DaRon Holmes should probably be a lottery pick in this draft, so if he's there at 19, I'd draft him

I initially liked Holmes but after seeing his measurements (6'8.75 w/out shoes, 7'1 wingspan) I've cooled off on him.

He's literally around the size of Siakam, let that sink in. Pascal is only a half inch shorter but actually has a LONGER wingspan than Holmes...I did kinda like his skillet but if he's not a real big when he's roughly the size of Pascal or Paul Reed (both guys have longer wingspans), that I don't know how effective he'll be at the next level. I don't rule out him being a decent rotation players but I'm not that hype on taking him with 19, at 31 sure.

[grant101]

DaRon Holmes should probably be a lottery pick in this draft, so if he's there at 19, I'd draft him

I initially liked Holmes but after seeing his measurements (6'8.75 w/out shoes, 7'1 wingspan) I've cooled off on him.

He's literally around the size of Siakam, let that sink in. Pascal is only a half inch shorter but actually has a LONGER wingspan than Holmes...I did kinda like his skillet but if he's not a real big when he's roughly the size of Pascal or Paul Reed (both guys have longer wingspans), that I don't know how effective he'll be at the next level. I don't rule out him being a decent rotation players but I'm not that hype on taking him with 19, at 31 sure.

Way too much emphasis on a couple inches. What about what he can do on the court? That kind of thinking is how you end up with Mo Bamba. He's not a behemoth, but holds his own and knows how to play as a big. He's taller, has a longer wingspan and a higher standing reach than Al Horford, and nobody ever accused Horford of being too short. We need players that are good at basketball. DaRon Holmes is good at basketball.

[deeps6x]

Who is this draft's Embiid?

Who is this draft's Giannis?

Who is this draft's Jokic?

Who is this draft's Tatum?

Who is this draft's Luka?

Obviously nobody, as there is no top level players available. But out of curiosity, who might come closest from the 2024 draft picks for each of these players?

For example, could Edey be another Embiid, if you squint really hard, imagine he was a 3 ball shooter in college and a decent passer as well? I guess technically Edey had better stats in college this season then Embiid had in his lone college season, but Edey was three years older as well. Who knows how dominant Embiid might have been if he would have stayed in college as long as Edey did.

No matter how hard I squint, I just can't see anyone becoming a superstar from this draft class. However, I wouldn't be surprised if a few all-stars pop up out of it, eventually.

[Rapsfan07]

If Memphis is moving #9, I'd have to imagine they're going to want get out of the tax in the process as well.

I think #9, Kennard, Clarke & Watanabe for Poeltl, McDaniels works to clear them out of the tax. I don't want to give up any of our picks to make this happen either.

Yuta already is leaving the NBA. Kennard is a team option.

#9, Clarke and Konchar for Poeltl and JFL

Didn't know Yuta was leaving the NBA, thanks for that. Still, Memphis can pick up his TO. I'd rather the expiring over 3 years of Konchar.

[Yallbecrazy]

DaRon Holmes should probably be a lottery pick in this draft, so if he's there at 19, I'd draft him

I initially liked Holmes but after seeing his measurements (6'8.75 w/out shoes, 7'1 wingspan) I've cooled off on him.

He's literally around the size of Siakam, let that sink in. Pascal is only a half inch shorter but actually has a LONGER wingspan than Holmes...I did kinda like his skillet but if he's not a real big when he's roughly the size of Pascal or Paul Reed (both guys have longer wingspans), that I don't know how effective he'll be at the next level. I don't rule out him being a decent rotation players but I'm not that hype on taking him with 19, at 31 sure.

Way too much emphasis on a couple inches. What about what he can do on the court? That kind of thinking is how you end up with Mo Bamba. He's not a behemoth, but holds his own and knows how to play as a big. He's taller, has a longer wingspan and a higher standing reach than Al Horford, and nobody ever accused Horford of being too short. We need players that are good at basketball. DaRon Holmes is good at basketball.

I mostly agree with this, but Holmes also played against terrible competition. He was extremely productive, but played against guys who won't be playing professional basketball in Europe, China, or anywhere.

[Rapsfan07]

If Ware or Edey are on the board, they are taking 1 of them at 19 IMO

Nice to see Ware doing well in interviews. My concern with him was the motor issues but people saying its overblown. Raps worked him out and im sure went out for dinner with him .
Also he has same height / wingspan as Dereck Lively

Don't overthink it. Just draft Ware.

[CazOnReal]

I’m ready for Masai to zag and draft Edey at 19

You're ready for him to draft the worst fit possible at the 5?

[grant101]

I initially liked Holmes but after seeing his measurements (6'8.75 w/out shoes, 7'1 wingspan) I've cooled off on him.

He's literally around the size of Siakam, let that sink in. Pascal is only a half inch shorter but actually has a LONGER wingspan than Holmes...I did kinda like his skillet but if he's not a real big when he's roughly the size of Pascal or Paul Reed (both guys have longer wingspans), that I don't know how effective he'll be at the next level. I don't rule out him being a decent rotation players but I'm not that hype on taking him with 19, at 31 sure.

Way too much emphasis on a couple inches. What about what he can do on the court? That kind of thinking is how you end up with Mo Bamba. He's not a behemoth, but holds his own and knows how to play as a big. He's taller, has a longer wingspan and a higher standing reach than Al Horford, and nobody ever accused Horford of being too short. We need players that are good at basketball. DaRon Holmes is good at basketball.

I mostly agree with this, but Holmes also played against terrible competition. He was extremely productive, but played against guys who won't be playing professional basketball in Europe, China, or anywhere.

Definitely something to consider. That said, Dayton played a solid mid-major schedule and I think there's enough evidence of Holmes playing well under a number of different circumstances. I also think you need to take into account how he managed to lead an otherwise a crappy Dayton team into the tournament while being the focal point of the opponent's defence every night. Doing so efficiently even.

I'm not saying I think he has star potential, but I think it's a pretty good bet Holmes is a rotation player, and soon.

[OAKLEY_2]

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#9 and Brandon Clarke for Poeltl and #31

Boucher for Capela and cash

Brown and McDaniels for Moody and Wiggins

Draft #9 Salaun
Draft #19 Carrington
Draft #31 Chomche

PG IQ - Bub - JFL
SG Dick - Moody
SF Barrett - Wiggins - Ochai
PF Barnes - Wiggins - Clarke
C Capela/Olynyk

905 - Salaun, Chomche

If I am the Raps in one motion I offer Poetl, Brown and McDaniels #19, #31
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Herro, Robinson, Jovic, #15 and #43.

I'd be looking for Collier at the Heat pick to develop shooting. And I'd throw #43 at Enrique Freeman.


MLE partial on Jaxson Hayes

2025

PG: IQ, Collier, JFL
SG: Herro, Gradey, Agbaji
SF: Barrett, Robinson, Agbaji
PF: Barnes, Jovic, Freeman,
Centre: Olynyk, Boucher, Hayes

Holy Sh!
After a prep career at St. Martin de Porres High School in Cleveland, Enrique Freeman had no college basketball offers. He accepted an academic scholarship to the University of Akron and at the urging of friends and family, tried out for a walk-on spot with the school's basketball team, earning a roster spot. He played sparingly as a freshman, totaling 13 minutes on the season. He grew four inches between his first and second years and earned a scholarship and a starting role for the Zips. He earned his first Mid-American Conference (MAC) all-defensive team honor.

As Freeman established himself as one of the top defensive players in the MAC during the 2021–22 season, his offense began to develop as well. He averaged a double-double for the season and led the nation in field goal percentage. He earned second-team All-MAC honors and was named the conference Defensive Player of the Year. He led the Zips to a MAC tournament title, and was named the tournament MVP.

Following the 2022–23 season, Freeman declared for the 2023 NBA draft but retained his college eligibility. He worked out for several teams but ultimately decided to return to Akron for his senior season.

Entering his final season at Akron, Freeman was named preseason All-MAC and added to the 20-man watch list for the Karl Malone Award for top power forward in the nation. On February 2, 2024, he was named to the 10-man finalist pool for the award.

At the close of the regular season, Freeman was named MAC Player of the Year.

[TNRaps4life]

This video of Bub talking about his game is great. You can tell he loves basketball and his coach dad helped him understand the game.

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I have doubts on his downhill attack and finishing ability, but as an Isaiah Joe with some passing is pretty enticing.

The dad coached IQ.

[ArthurVandelay]

Holmes is this year Trayce Jackson-Davis