Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[thebuzzardman]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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Doesn't Ingram have some of the Bridges issues, in that they are 3s who can only kind of play like 2s?

Ingram brings more offense, that additional 3 level creator, but injury history and less defense
Bridges brings more defense (or used to), not really an elite 3 level creator, more defense, mostly healthy

Just not sure

Brunson
Ingram or Bridges
OG
Randle
iShart

Really works.

[KnixinSix]

Only way Ingram makes sense is to re route him to Brooklyn for Bridges. We send out McBride as well and get Alvarado.

Ingram makes some sense if we trade Randle. Also our frontcourt scoring is very weak aside from Randle. I could see it either way. There would be enough minutes for him to split between SF and PF. Players tend to blossom here and become even better players if they adjust well to Thibs system. I could see it.

[Fury]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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I don’t mind Ingram, but would he start at like SG here?

[thebuzzardman]

The Knicks draft and any trades have a lot of moving parts.

It's pretty much a given they'll resign OG, but we don't know for exactly how much.

Hartenstein is less of a given, but a probable.

Even with iHart, things start to get weird/confusing.

They might keep iHart but move Mitch.
Mitch and Bogs might be combined in a trade for Bridges or Ingram.
Maybe the Knicks solve backup PG in the Pelicans trade.

Maybe the Knicks can get either Bridges or Ingram, but solve PG with Jokubitus, and Bogs option is picked up for a mid season trade.
Maybe Jokubitus looks like sh*t in the summer league or the Knicks aren't sold on him in general, so they release Bogs and use that money towards Melton.

And so on.

Knicks need some height depth on the wing
They could use a backup PG
They might need a backup C, depending on if iHart leaves or Mitch gets dealt.

This impacts the draft as well.
Do all the picks get traded?
Do the Knicks use just one pick and choose from among backup PG, Center or wing defender?
They probably trade one pick into the future, one of the 1st round picks.

[god shammgod]

Guys here think you could keep shart as your only center when he couldn’t guard anyone in the playoffs. Sad.

[KnixinSix]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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I don’t mind Ingram, but would he start at like SG here?

He's mainly a 3 /4 . Even if we kept Randle it probably would look something like this

Minutes distribution

IHart(32)/ Achiwa (12)/ OG (4)
Randle (33)/ Ingram (10) / OG (5)
Ingram (22)/ OG (20) / Hart (6)
DDV (25)/Hart(20)/ OG (5)
Brunson (35)/ Alvarado (13)

Bottomline there is enough minutes to go around for the top scorers

[spree2kawhi]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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Doesn't Ingram have some of the Bridges issues, in that they are 3s who can only kind of play like 2s?

Ingram brings more offense, that additional 3 level creator, but injury history and less defense
Bridges brings more defense (or used to), not really an elite 3 level creator, more defense, mostly healthy

Just not sure

Brunson
Ingram or Bridges
OG
Randle
iShart

Really works.

Ingram really isn’t a guard. With him, our defense would take a step back and OG would have to play the 4 full time. Bridges would be the one perfect addition imo. I value defense more than offense (and I’m also ready to admit that KAT has looked terrible defensively against Dallas). Ingram would be another offensive weapon and a very good one at that, but you’d hide him on defense so if given the choice, I’d go with Bridges because he’s a two-way force.

[spree2kawhi]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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I don’t mind Ingram, but would he start at like SG here?

He's mainly a 3 /4 . Even if we kept Randle it probably would look something like this

Minutes distribution

IHart(32)/ Achiwa (12)/ OG (4)
Randle (33)/ Ingram (10) / OG (5)
Ingram (22)/ OG (20) / Hart (6)
DDV (25)/Hart(20)/ OG (5)
Brunson (35)/ Alvarado (13)

Bottomline there is enough minutes to go around for the top scorers

It doesn’t make sense. Go after Bridges.

[KnixinSix]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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Doesn't Ingram have some of the Bridges issues, in that they are 3s who can only kind of play like 2s?

Ingram brings more offense, that additional 3 level creator, but injury history and less defense
Bridges brings more defense (or used to), not really an elite 3 level creator, more defense, mostly healthy

Just not sure

Brunson
Ingram or Bridges
OG
Randle
iShart

Really works.

Ingram really isn’t a guard. With him, our defense would take a step back and OG would have to play the 4 full time. Bridges would be the one perfect addition imo. I value defense more than offense (and I’m also ready to admit that KAT has looked terrible defensively against Dallas). Ingram would be another offensive weapon and a very good one at that, but you’d hide him on defense so if given the choice, I’d go with Bridges because he’s a two-way force.

If we keep Randle I agree Bridges is absolutely the better fit for this roster construction and Thibs system

[HopelessKnick]

3 team trade...

NY gets: Mikal & Alvarado
BRK gets: Ingram
Pelicans get: Mitch Rob, Bogs, McBride, pick swap from BRK, #24, #25, #38 picks from NYK

Who says no?

Pelicans IMO.

Mitch at this point is so injury prone I don't think there is a whole lot of interest in him. On average he misses 30 games a season---that's close to around 40% of the possible games. He has zero offensive game as well. Valanciunas IMO (whom the Pelicans are said to want to let go of) likely carries more value around the league than Mitch. Deuce is a nice asset to have but he is a bench/rotation player at this point.

What you are proposing is essentially two role players and two late picks for an all-star player in his prime. Is not going to happen. If the Knicks plan on making an offer for Ingram (which I kinda doubt they will due to positions etc.) and they want to keep DD, Hart, Hartenstein out of the trade talks....they will have to trade 4 FRPs or more IMO. A 24th and 25th pick in a weak draft isn't worth much. The Pelicans would want unprotected FRPs in the future..2026/2028 with hopes of the Knicks being worse than today. The Pelicans just turned down the 17th pick in the draft....does not look like they are very interested in this draft.

The Pelicans will likely try to get a star Point guard in return for Ingram. They have been lacking a star point guard for many years now---ever since Paul left the franchise. Ingram holds enough value to net them a Garland or Murray type player. I personally would take Ingram over Trae as well but I guess that can be debated.

[3toheadmelo]

Healthy Ingram is a beast

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I don’t mind Ingram, but would he start at like SG here?

i think it can work. he used to play SG for the lakers. the pelicans are also playing another big wing next to ingram (herb jones) and a big PF zion (like randle). if he can play next to herb and randle i think he'll be fine next to randle and og.

[3toheadmelo]

mikal hasn't played defense in years and a terrible shot creator. ingram is a better fit offensively since he can create and play off the ball and both play the same levels of defense. it's a no brainer which one to take.

and also the nets aren't even looking to trade mikal. so there's no point even debating about that. he would also be way more expensive.

[HopelessKnick]

I agree on all guys that want Bridges here but I don't see it. The Nets turned down a deal netting them 4 FRPs from Memphis already---that's a small market, western conference team that the Nets would have no problem dealing with. Imagine what Bridges would cost if the Nets were to send him here. From everything one reads they are looking to pair Bridges with another star player, not trade him in a deal for another star player. They want to improve and improve fast.

But given his game...offense/defense and overall ability..Bridges would be pretty perfect. He would take us from title contenders to overwhelming title favorites IMO. Having Brunson, Deuce, DD, Hart, Bridges, OG on the perimeter would be a dream come true.

[HopelessKnick]

mikal hasn't played defense in years and a terrible shot creator. ingram is a better fit offensively since he can create and play off the ball and both play the same levels of defense. it's a no brainer which one to take.

and also the nets aren't even looking to trade mikal. so there's no point even debating about that. he would also be way more expensive.

He was great defensively for Phoenix....so years is a little exaggeration, isn't it?

[JayTWill]

If the Knicks were to trade Mitch or lose iHart in free-agency(hopefully not) I would love to pick up Goga Bitadze as a backup. He protects the rim, rebounds and has also shown some ability to pass out of the high post like iHart. I feel like he could be another under the radar great value pick up similar to how iHart was a few years ago.

[3toheadmelo]

mikal hasn't played defense in years and a terrible shot creator. ingram is a better fit offensively since he can create and play off the ball and both play the same levels of defense. it's a no brainer which one to take.

and also the nets aren't even looking to trade mikal. so there's no point even debating about that. he would also be way more expensive.

He was great defensively for Phoenix....so years is a little exaggeration, isn't it?

He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

[spree2kawhi]

mikal hasn't played defense in years and a terrible shot creator. ingram is a better fit offensively since he can create and play off the ball and both play the same levels of defense. it's a no brainer which one to take.

and also the nets aren't even looking to trade mikal. so there's no point even debating about that. he would also be way more expensive.

He was great defensively for Phoenix....so years is a little exaggeration, isn't it?

He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

Well, as always, it is an exaggeration or even false because Bridges does in fact still play lockdown defense and Ingram never has.

[thebuzzardman]

mikal hasn't played defense in years and a terrible shot creator. ingram is a better fit offensively since he can create and play off the ball and both play the same levels of defense. it's a no brainer which one to take.

and also the nets aren't even looking to trade mikal. so there's no point even debating about that. he would also be way more expensive.

He was great defensively for Phoenix....so years is a little exaggeration, isn't it?

He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

I think Ingram would cost 4 picks.

[3toheadmelo]

He was great defensively for Phoenix....so years is a little exaggeration, isn't it?

He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

Well, as always, it is an exaggeration or even false because Bridges does in fact still play lockdown defense and Ingram never has.

How much Nets games have you seen in the past 2 years?

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Highest Opponent Corner 3-Point Percentage Among Guards This Season (Min. 400 Total 3PA) :

1. Mikal Bridges — 43.7%
2. Coby White — 42.4%
2. Jordan Poole — 42.4%
4. Max Strus — 42.3%
5. Donte DiVincenzo — 42.2%
6. Ayo Dosunmu — 41.9%
7. DeMar DeRozan — 41.5%
8. Dejounte Murray — 41.4%
9. Saddiq Bey — 41.4%
10. Jalen Brunson — 41.3%

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Do i need to post stuff about what Nets fans feel about him on defense too? Dude sucks on that end now. You're not living in reality.

[HopelessKnick]

He is 26years....I bet under Thibs in NY he would go back to his lockdown defense in no time. I do agree however that the Nets are extremely unlikely to trade him.