** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

Covi_Marsh · Post #1901 » by **Covi_Marsh** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 3:53 pm

LeBron really would be the ideal PF we need lol. Great finisher, great rebounder, great weak side shot blocking ability, elite pass is a bonus.

He seems to want to remain on the west coast tho. Bronny only working out for Lakers and Suns. Bron accepting vet min to play in PHX would be wild.

Post #1902 » by **Stanford** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:10 pm

The Suns drafting Bronny and then signing LeBron for the minimum would be the most pathetic thing to happen in the NBA.

zaz102 · Post #1903 » by **zaz102** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:54 pm

Stanford wrote:The Suns drafting Bronny and then signing LeBron for the minimum would be the most pathetic thing to happen in the NBA.

Would it be more or less pathetic than arguably the second best player in the NBA joining an 83-9 team after losing to them in the playoffs?

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1904 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:08 pm

Dumfounded isn't a strong enough adjective to express the feeling that will radiate through me if Bronny James ends up even being drafted. My "Pro Sports is rigged" theory that has consistently grown over the last ten years will be at an all time high. ANYONE with even a modicum of knowledge about the game of basketball who watched Bronny James play during his time at USC should know that he is in no way an NBA player at this time.

Slacktard · Post #1905 » by **Slacktard** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:17 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Dumfounded isn't a strong enough adjective to express the feeling that will radiate through me if Bronny James ends up even being drafted. My "Pro Sports is rigged" theory that has consistently grown over the last ten years will be at an all time high. ANYONE with even a modicum of knowledge about the game of basketball who watched Bronny James play during his time at USC should know that he is in no way an NBA player at this time.

Its also amazing to me how few sports media are calling it out as a disgrace. Just so afraid of losing connections or info by pissing off LeBron.

zaz102 · Post #1906 » by **zaz102** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:21 pm

Would trading two 1sts for Murray and signing OG for ~$35M - $40M be possible and make sense?

Post #1907 » by **Stanford** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:40 pm

zaz102 wrote:
Stanford wrote:The Suns drafting Bronny and then signing LeBron for the minimum would be the most pathetic thing to happen in the NBA.

Would it be more or less pathetic than arguably the second best player in the NBA joining an 83-9 team after losing to them in the playoffs?

Way more

youngcrev · Post #1908 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:42 pm

zaz102 wrote:Would trading two 1sts for Murray and signing OG for ~$35M - $40M be possible and make sense?

I don't really get the Murray thing. Atlanta brought him in thinking he'd fill a similar to role to how we'd want to use him, and it hasn't really worked there. Not sure why it would here. To me's one of those Jack of all trades, master on none guys, that isn't good enough at the thing you'd want him to be as a support piece. He also seems like he wants to be the guy, and he's just not on a good team.

Jailblazers7 · Post #1909 » by **Jailblazers7** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:43 pm

Slacktard wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Dumfounded isn't a strong enough adjective to express the feeling that will radiate through me if Bronny James ends up even being drafted. My "Pro Sports is rigged" theory that has consistently grown over the last ten years will be at an all time high. ANYONE with even a modicum of knowledge about the game of basketball who watched Bronny James play during his time at USC should know that he is in no way an NBA player at this time.

Its also amazing to me how few sports media are calling it out as a disgrace. Just so afraid of losing connections or info by pissing off LeBron.

To be fair, I think a lot of people are understandably hesitant to sh*t on a 19 year old kid who just suffered a cardiac arrest. Lebron has put his son in the limelight in an incredibly awkward way.

AI_Efficiency · Post #1910 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 6:46 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:
Slacktard wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Dumfounded isn't a strong enough adjective to express the feeling that will radiate through me if Bronny James ends up even being drafted. My "Pro Sports is rigged" theory that has consistently grown over the last ten years will be at an all time high. ANYONE with even a modicum of knowledge about the game of basketball who watched Bronny James play during his time at USC should know that he is in no way an NBA player at this time.

Its also amazing to me how few sports media are calling it out as a disgrace. Just so afraid of losing connections or info by pissing off LeBron.

To be fair, I think a lot of people are understandably hesitant to sh*t on a 19 year old kid who just suffered a cardiac arrest. Lebron has put his son in the limelight in an incredibly awkward way.

Also, i don’t know that this is that different than Milwaukee keeping Giannis’ brother on the team. If Pat Mahomes brother played football and was like maybe good enough to be a special teams player, it wouldn’t be ridiculous if the Chiefs used a fifth round pick on the guy to keep Pat happy. If Bronny is drafted in the first, I agree it’s dumb, but a second rounder that usually gets sold for cash anyway. Totally get it.

Arsenal · Post #1911 » by **Arsenal** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 7:22 pm

youngcrev wrote:
zaz102 wrote:Would trading two 1sts for Murray and signing OG for ~$35M - $40M be possible and make sense?

I don't really get the Murray thing. Atlanta brought him in thinking he'd fill a similar to role to how we'd want to use him, and it hasn't really worked there. Not sure why it would here. To me's one of those Jack of all trades, master on none guys, that isn't good enough at the thing you'd want him to be as a support piece. He also seems like he wants to be the guy, and he's just not on a good team.

Murray is a better fit here than Atlanta since Maxey, unlike Trae, can play off the ball. Murray needs the ball in his hands to maximize his impact, and so does Trae, which is why that’s a bad fit.

Jailblazers7 · Post #1912 » by **Jailblazers7** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 7:44 pm

Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
zaz102 wrote:Would trading two 1sts for Murray and signing OG for ~$35M - $40M be possible and make sense?

I don't really get the Murray thing. Atlanta brought him in thinking he'd fill a similar to role to how we'd want to use him, and it hasn't really worked there. Not sure why it would here. To me's one of those Jack of all trades, master on none guys, that isn't good enough at the thing you'd want him to be as a support piece. He also seems like he wants to be the guy, and he's just not on a good team.

Murray is a better fit here than Atlanta since Maxey, unlike Trae, can play off the ball. Murray needs the ball in his hands to maximize his impact, and so does Trae, which is why that’s a bad fit.

The issue with a player like that is he’s a worse on ball option than Maxey and Trae. So while Maxey can play off ball, he shouldn’t if it’s in service of getting value out of Murray.

Covi_Marsh · Post #1913 » by **Covi_Marsh** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 7:54 pm

The first would technically be to acquire LeBron lol. Bronny is just part of the package. If ppl are ready to send 4 Firsts for a 3&D wing in Bridges or multiple 1sts for 35 yr old Jimmy Butler, I don’t see the anger for 1 pick for 38 year old all NBA Bron lol.

Covi_Marsh · Post #1914 » by **Covi_Marsh** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 7:57 pm

Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
zaz102 wrote:Would trading two 1sts for Murray and signing OG for ~$35M - $40M be possible and make sense?

I don't really get the Murray thing. Atlanta brought him in thinking he'd fill a similar to role to how we'd want to use him, and it hasn't really worked there. Not sure why it would here. To me's one of those Jack of all trades, master on none guys, that isn't good enough at the thing you'd want him to be as a support piece. He also seems like he wants to be the guy, and he's just not on a good team.

Murray is a better fit here than Atlanta since Maxey, unlike Trae, can play off the ball. Murray needs the ball in his hands to maximize his impact, and so does Trae, which is why that’s a bad fit.

Yea I don’t think anyone expected Trae to be so bad at u understanding spacing and getting open off ball. He essentially is out there just standing similar to James’s Harden lol.

zaz102 · Post #1915 » by **zaz102** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 8:07 pm

I thought this was an interesting point about keeping Kenyon Martin Jr. to use for salary matching that I haven't seen brought up yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/s/Not7jSyF9p

mjkvol · Post #1916 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 8:46 pm

Stanford wrote:The Suns drafting Bronny and then signing LeBron for the minimum would be the most pathetic thing to happen in the NBA.

100%.

Anyone drafting 'Bronny', period, would qualify for the 'most pathetic things to happen in the NBA' list.

mjkvol · Post #1917 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 8:47 pm

zaz102 wrote:
Stanford wrote:The Suns drafting Bronny and then signing LeBron for the minimum would be the most pathetic thing to happen in the NBA.

Would it be more or less pathetic than arguably the second best player in the NBA joining an 83-9 team after losing to them in the playoffs?

That's not even in the same galaxy.

mjkvol · Post #1918 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 8:51 pm

Slacktard wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Dumfounded isn't a strong enough adjective to express the feeling that will radiate through me if Bronny James ends up even being drafted. My "Pro Sports is rigged" theory that has consistently grown over the last ten years will be at an all time high. ANYONE with even a modicum of knowledge about the game of basketball who watched Bronny James play during his time at USC should know that he is in no way an NBA player at this time.

Its also amazing to me how few sports media are calling it out as a disgrace. Just so afraid of losing connections or info by pissing off LeBron.

No surprise there. The media for quite a while now has been made up of a collection of spineless weasels with an agenda and not a shred of journalistic integrity, all looking for clicks and views. Crossing James might shut some doors, so that will never happen.

youngcrev · Post #1919 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 8:58 pm

zaz102 wrote:I thought this was an interesting point about keeping Kenyon Martin Jr. to use for salary matching that I haven't seen brought up yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/s/Not7jSyF9p

I did, in this thread :oops:

Well, at least the idea of using his cap hold as a means to cheat the cap a little so that you have some salary ballast at the deadline.

But yeah, haven't heard it discussed much since (I think) Hollinger mentioned it during the trade.

youngcrev · Post #1920 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:14 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
I don't really get the Murray thing. Atlanta brought him in thinking he'd fill a similar to role to how we'd want to use him, and it hasn't really worked there. Not sure why it would here. To me's one of those Jack of all trades, master on none guys, that isn't good enough at the thing you'd want him to be as a support piece. He also seems like he wants to be the guy, and he's just not on a good team.

Murray is a better fit here than Atlanta since Maxey, unlike Trae, can play off the ball. Murray needs the ball in his hands to maximize his impact, and so does Trae, which is why that’s a bad fit.

The issue with a player like that is he’s a worse on ball option than Maxey and Trae. So while Maxey can play off ball, he shouldn’t if it’s in service of getting value out of Murray.

Exactly. Maxey can play off ball... But why would you take him off ball for Dejounte Murray?

Also.. it's like his usage is going up here. There's no Joel Embiid on the Hawks.