2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[DreamTeam09]

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First guess, is the Lakers see if they can trade this pick for a win now player.

Failing that I think they'll take one of Edey, Carrington of TDS.

Obv depends what they want to prioritize but I think a lot of WC teams are going to want to add size & AD hates playing C as well. Add Edey, add to the Lakers' circus/eyes/ratings, Edey is a very easy target for LeBron and can set good screens to let him get downhill.

But other part of me can see them maybe liking Carrington to be a "bold" young player looking to step up & score so they can let DLo go and use the money elsewhere. Then ofc with LeBron/most NBA teams, you can never have enough 3+D players so TDS would make a lot of sense for them as well.

They can't use the money else where, cuz they're well over the cap. Either he walks, he picks up the option & stays or gets traded, or they try & initiate a SnT where they look for a guard in return.
I think they go big, and I think they would take Ware over Edey

[Mark_83]

I finally thought of a good comp for him: what if Precious had better playmaking instincts & touch

That's a high end starter at worst.

He's on the older side, and needs to prove he can (and just as importantly, will) shoot it if left open, but yeah - he's got the makings of a contributor. Was my favourite UDFA target, but I think he gets picked now. It's one of the reasons I've advocated for trading down from 31.

I can see Masai taking this guy at 31. His BPM and PER numbers are elite (albeit in a weak conference), he has standout measurements, outlier skills for a big man, and a late development curve. Sounds like Pascal 2.0.

Siakam, PF, Sophomore (22.2 years)
6'8.25" (7'3.25" wingspan)
30.5 standing vert
36.5 max vert

(Stats)
20.3pts 11.6reb 1.7ast 1stl 2.2blk
53.9%fg
20.0%3fg
67.8%ft

(Advanced)
31.6PER
8.2BPM
.266 WS/40

Mogbo, PF, Sophomore (22.5 years)
6'6.25" (7'2" wingspan)
31.5 standing vert
37.5 max vert
(Stats)
14.2pts 10.1reb 3.6ast 1.6stl 0.8blk
63.6%fg
0.0%3fg
69.3%ft

(Advanced)
31.2PER
11.1BPM
.283 WS/40

[grant101]

That's a high end starter at worst.

He's on the older side, and needs to prove he can (and just as importantly, will) shoot it if left open, but yeah - he's got the makings of a contributor. Was my favourite UDFA target, but I think he gets picked now. It's one of the reasons I've advocated for trading down from 31.

He's older but also a late bloomer, Masai has not shied away from taking these types before. Really unique prospect that offers something different than everyone else in this class. I think he should be there at 31 but who knows and if he is Masai's target, they probably just take him and won't chance trading down in a draft where there is no consensus.

Sorry, I meant to say trading back (into the 40s). I think we'll have a lot of leverage picking first on the second day and can possibly use that to pick up additional assets (eg more 2nd round picks or dumping bad salary like McDaniels or boucher) while still getting the player we want

[ill-Will03]

I think I’m settling on Ware and Dadiet as the picks

Love Ware at #19. He's gotta be the guy.

I'd like to better understand what about Dadiet that people seem to like him at #31. I don't quite see it but maybe I haven't been looking for/at the right things.

I think we need to go point guard at #31 but I also really like Jaylon Tyson.

I'm really betting on his potential. He shows flashes of shot creation, good defensive upside and his shot looks to be good as well. He's one of the youngest players in the draft, and could end up being the best player in the draft once he's 24-25. He is definitely a risky pick but at 31 I think its worth it.

[mtcan]

I think I’m settling on Ware and Dadiet as the picks

Love Ware at #19. He's gotta be the guy.

I'd like to better understand what about Dadiet that people seem to like him at #31. I don't quite see it but maybe I haven't been looking for/at the right things.

I think we need to go point guard at #31 but I also really like Jaylon Tyson.

I'm really betting on his potential. He shows flashes of shot creation, good defensive upside and his shot looks to be good as well. He's one of the youngest players in the draft, and could end up being the best player in the draft once he's 24-25. He is definitely a risky pick but at 31 I think its worth it.

At 31...yes but at 19...I'd rather get someone with a better motor.

The motor questions are what keep me from liking him.

[ill-Will03]

Love Ware at #19. He's gotta be the guy.

I'd like to better understand what about Dadiet that people seem to like him at #31. I don't quite see it but maybe I haven't been looking for/at the right things.

I think we need to go point guard at #31 but I also really like Jaylon Tyson.

I'm really betting on his potential. He shows flashes of shot creation, good defensive upside and his shot looks to be good as well. He's one of the youngest players in the draft, and could end up being the best player in the draft once he's 24-25. He is definitely a risky pick but at 31 I think its worth it.

At 31...yes but at 19...I'd rather get someone with a better motor.

The motor questions are what keep me from liking him.

Wait are you talking about Ware here or Dadiet?

I said Ware at 19 and Dadiet at 31

[Mapko]

I think I’m settling on Ware and Dadiet as the picks

Love Ware at #19. He's gotta be the guy.

I'd like to better understand what about Dadiet that people seem to like him at #31. I don't quite see it but maybe I haven't been looking for/at the right things.

I think we need to go point guard at #31 but I also really like Jaylon Tyson.

If we come out of draft night with Ware and Tyson I’ll be overjoyed.

Would it not make more sense to keep Kings out. ie. Keep Wiggins & Moodie instead (w Wiggins esp you are buying low)?

[PushDaRock]

He's on the older side, and needs to prove he can (and just as importantly, will) shoot it if left open, but yeah - he's got the makings of a contributor. Was my favourite UDFA target, but I think he gets picked now. It's one of the reasons I've advocated for trading down from 31.

He's older but also a late bloomer, Masai has not shied away from taking these types before. Really unique prospect that offers something different than everyone else in this class. I think he should be there at 31 but who knows and if he is Masai's target, they probably just take him and won't chance trading down in a draft where there is no consensus.

Sorry, I meant to say trading back (into the 40s). I think we'll have a lot of leverage picking first on the second day and can possibly use that to pick up additional assets (eg more 2nd round picks or dumping bad salary like McDaniels or boucher) while still getting the player we want

I know what you meant, I'm just saying this draft has no consensus so one team might rank a guy in their top 10 and another team has the same player outside of the top 30. It makes trading down and still being confident of getting your guy more difficult. Masai historically has also never been someone that trades down to get his target. He just picks them even if it's higher than expected (eg. Bruno, Siakam). If he doesn't have someone he really likes at 31, then we could see him move down.

[PushDaRock]

That's a high end starter at worst.

He's on the older side, and needs to prove he can (and just as importantly, will) shoot it if left open, but yeah - he's got the makings of a contributor. Was my favourite UDFA target, but I think he gets picked now. It's one of the reasons I've advocated for trading down from 31.

I can see Masai taking this guy at 31. His BPM and PER numbers are elite (albeit in a weak conference), he has standout measurements, outlier skills for a big man, and a late development curve. Sounds like Pascal 2.0.

Siakam, PF, Sophomore (22.2 years)
6'8.25" (7'3.25" wingspan)
30.5 standing vert
36.5 max vert

(Stats)
20.3pts 11.6reb 1.7ast 1stl 2.2blk
53.9%fg
20.0%3fg
67.8%ft

(Advanced)
31.6PER
8.2BPM
.266 WS/40

Mogbo, PF, Sophomore (22.5 years)
6'6.25" (7'2" wingspan)
31.5 standing vert
37.5 max vert
(Stats)
14.2pts 10.1reb 3.6ast 1.6stl 0.8blk
63.6%fg
0.0%3fg
69.3%ft

(Advanced)
31.2PER
11.1BPM
.283 WS/40

Siakam 2.0 was who I was thinking too, not necessarily in style of play but just someone who they can kind of mold and develop with a lot of raw ability.

[Chpwags]

We are still in the timeline where potential NBA prospects lost 1-2 years of critical development due to the situation around covid. My guess is there will be a few "old" players in this draft who continue to develop at a rate similar to one and done freshmen at the NBA level. It is just a matter of indentifying which propects fit into that category if you go with older players.

[OAKLEY_2]

Opinions on Kyshawn George?

High upside wing, might not make it to 19, but I think Masai will be tempted to draft him if he's there.

I'm actually leaning towards Ryan Dunn now, but like George, I don't know if he's there at 19 either.

Dunn with problematic offence? He will be there at 31. Book it. If you are a wing and you cannot shoot g'bye! I take the Enrique Freeman kid who made Akron NCAA D1 as an academic scholarship walk-on and then ripped through the conference competition winning tons of accolades along the way. Give me that kid at #31. If we make a deal for Harrison Barnes for wing power forward depth we'd have Team Barnes squared. And... Team Freeman squared. The 19th pick is on Bobby/Masai to move up with.

Grand slam - Collier and Enrique Freeman
Stand up triple with two ribbies - Kel Lel Ware and KJ Simpson.
Head first into second to beat the throw driving in the go ahead runs - Zac Edey and Pacome Dadiet.

[deeps6x]

If Kings are likely to lose Monk they might have interest in Barnes + 13 for Brown + 19. We would have our full MLE and maybe a Trent trade somewhere in there.

Poeltl - Olynyk
Barnes - Barnes
Barrett - Agbaji
Trent - Dick
Quickely

I would feel very comfortable going into next season with that line up. The difference between 13 and 19 could be a very impactful player.

Oh hell no, Barnes, even at 32 yrs old, is light years better then Brown.

What they really need is a C. Forcing Sabonis to play C, or worse, play his natural PF position with the ghost of JaVale McGee or Alex Len as the C is just horrible. I don't know if Poeltl would work for them with Sabonis, but if they found that to be desirable, then it would probably have to be #13 and Huerter for Poeltl. No, we'd be keeping #19 as well. If we're giving up Poeltl, it's to draft Edey or Ware to take his place and develop with our young team. The Kings could use Poeltl as his age aligns with their core, and is more of a win now player.

[MEDIC]

If Kings are likely to lose Monk they might have interest in Barnes + 13 for Brown + 19. We would have our full MLE and maybe a Trent trade somewhere in there.

Poeltl - Olynyk
Barnes - Barnes
Barrett - Agbaji
Trent - Dick
Quickely

I would feel very comfortable going into next season with that line up. The difference between 13 and 19 could be a very impactful player.

Oh hell no, Barnes, even at 32 yrs old, is light years better then Brown.

When I read that, I thought "that can't be right". I thought Barnes was 36 or more. Still has several good years left in him!

[deeps6x]

Opinions on Kyshawn George?

High upside wing, might not make it to 19, but I think Masai will be tempted to draft him if he's there.

I'm actually leaning towards Ryan Dunn now, but like George, I don't know if he's there at 19 either.

Dunn with problematic offence? He will be there at 31. Book it. If you are a wing and you cannot shoot g'bye! I take the Enrique Freeman kid who made Akron NCAA D1 as an academic scholarship walk-on and then ripped through the conference competition winning tons of accolades along the way. Give me that kid at #31. If we make a deal for Harrison Barnes for wing power forward depth we'd have Team Barnes squared. And... Team Freeman squared. The 19th pick is on Bobby/Masai to move up with.

Grand slam - Collier and Enrique Freeman
Stand up triple with two ribbies - Kel Lel Ware and KJ Simpson.
Head first into second to beat the throw driving in the go ahead runs - Zac Edey and Pacome Dadiet.

I'd be good with Zac Edey and Pacome Dadiet. I see a lot of potential upside with both.

Hell, Edey shot 50% from the three this season! (was that 1/2 or 2/4 for the season? LOL)

[grant101]

He's older but also a late bloomer, Masai has not shied away from taking these types before. Really unique prospect that offers something different than everyone else in this class. I think he should be there at 31 but who knows and if he is Masai's target, they probably just take him and won't chance trading down in a draft where there is no consensus.

Sorry, I meant to say trading back (into the 40s). I think we'll have a lot of leverage picking first on the second day and can possibly use that to pick up additional assets (eg more 2nd round picks or dumping bad salary like McDaniels or boucher) while still getting the player we want

I know what you meant, I'm just saying this draft has no consensus so one team might rank a guy in their top 10 and another team has the same player outside of the top 30. It makes trading down and still being confident of getting your guy more difficult. Masai historically has also never been someone that trades down to get his target. He just picks them even if it's higher than expected (eg. Bruno, Siakam). If he doesn't have someone he really likes at 31, then we could see him move down.

I get this take and would be ok with it, especially cause it would signify that the club believes (and will invest in) Mogbo and will give him a chance to succeed. I also agree that Masai's MO is to just grab the guy he covets even if there's a chance to trade back and do the same (see Bruno & Pascal). I just think this team needs to take a few calculated risks.

For instance, I think we desperately need more big wing shooting bets, and there are a couple in the 2nd round worth swinging on. I think 31 to POR for 34 & 40 might work (even if we had to throw in some additional $). I think Portland bites cause there's no way they roster all 4 draft picks. That would allow us to take Mogbo and one of Bridges/Crawford/Scheirman/Wells.

[mtcan]

I'm really betting on his potential. He shows flashes of shot creation, good defensive upside and his shot looks to be good as well. He's one of the youngest players in the draft, and could end up being the best player in the draft once he's 24-25. He is definitely a risky pick but at 31 I think its worth it.

At 31...yes but at 19...I'd rather get someone with a better motor.

The motor questions are what keep me from liking him.

Wait are you talking about Ware here or Dadiet?

I said Ware at 19 and Dadiet at 31

To clarify...I don't like Ware at 19 because despite the physical tools...it's the mental that could sink him. Motor issues being a concern...I like Ware at 31 more than at 19.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

What's the date/time/network of the Draft, please & thanks please don't ignore this post.

I'm assuming it's this month. It would be greatly appreciated, asking nicely, sincerely, politely & respectfully.

[HangTime]

I think Castle will be the best out of this 2024 class.

I see a Compact, Point Guard version of Paul Pierce.

[Psubs]

I think Castle will be the best out of this 2024 class.

I see a Compact, Point Guard version of Paul Pierce.

At best he's Marcus Smart if he can get to league average 3pt shooting.

[Psubs]

Opinions on Kyshawn George?

High upside wing, might not make it to 19, but I think Masai will be tempted to draft him if he's there.

I'm actually leaning towards Ryan Dunn now, but like George, I don't know if he's there at 19 either.

Dunn with problematic offence? He will be there at 31. Book it. If you are a wing and you cannot shoot g'bye! I take the Enrique Freeman kid who made Akron NCAA D1 as an academic scholarship walk-on and then ripped through the conference competition winning tons of accolades along the way. Give me that kid at #31. If we make a deal for Harrison Barnes for wing power forward depth we'd have Team Barnes squared. And... Team Freeman squared. The 19th pick is on Bobby/Masai to move up with.

Grand slam - Collier and Enrique Freeman
Stand up triple with two ribbies - Kel Lel Ware and KJ Simpson.
Head first into second to beat the throw driving in the go ahead runs - Zac Edey and Pacome Dadiet.

I pointed out that due to age Enrique Freeman (did really well in the combine scrimmages) likely goes undrafted but him and Reece Beekman are my choice for backup PG and backup forward as UDFA's. Jordan Nwora is let walk, Garrett Temple joins the coaching staff? Beekman fight JFL for minutes.