Around the NBA - WCF and Finals Thread

[Chanel Bomber]

Garland/Ingram makes a lot of sense too.

Would you consider Murray if he doesn't cost any core players?

I'm an archetype guy. If I have a ball dominant guard, I'm gonna want a great off ball guard to pair. We have a good one in Donte and I'd worry Murray wouldn't be a huge upgrade in that regard.

Murray would be great for us as a third guard like Stackhouse was for Dallas or Microwave for Detroit but I don't know that he's willing to come off the bench. And Fred Katz on Macri's pod sort of alluded to the Knicks FO being hesitant to risk upsetting the team chemistry by bringing in a more abrasive character. He didn't mention him by name but I thought it was obvious he was referring to Murray.

As you said, I don't think he's a good fit as a starter next to Brunson. I think Mitchell's a better fit even if he's not ideal either.

[Chanel Bomber]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

[3toheadmelo]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

you would start westbrook next to brunson ignoring fit mfer

[MrDollarBills]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

He misses a lot of time too, I didn't even realize how bad it was. With OG being prone to miss time I don't think the team can afford it

[Chanel Bomber]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

you would start westbrook next to brunson ignoring fit mfer

Yes

Seriously though Brunson can space the floor for him

[Capn'O]

Ingram strikes me as someone who could have an Olympic Melo mold. Though I suppose we would have seen it next to Brunson in the WC.

[Clyde_Style]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

He misses a lot of time too, I didn't even realize how bad it was. With OG being prone to miss time I don't think the team can afford it

100%. OG requires any other wing we get to have a reliable health history.

[Clyde_Style]

There’s no good options. Just continue to wait.

You can probably never have too many defensive bigs. When I see what Gafford is doing for $13M per it feels like there has to be a good pickup out there. Giving iHart $20M per is too much

[Guano]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

you would start westbrook next to brunson ignoring fit mfer

Yes

Seriously though Brunson can space the floor for him

I see the vision.

Have randle and Brunson sit in the corners while mitch and westbrook run the P&R straight to a chip.

[spree2kawhi]

There’s no good options. Just continue to wait.

You can probably never have too many defensive bigs. When I see what Gafford is doing for $13M per it feels like there has to be a good pickup out there. Giving iHart $20M per is too much

The same goes for wings.

[Chanel Bomber]

you would start westbrook next to brunson ignoring fit mfer

Yes

Seriously though Brunson can space the floor for him

I see the vision.

Have randle and Brunson sit in the corners while mitch and westbrook run the P&R straight to a chip.

Yes

You see it too

[HarthorneWingo]

Really not sold on Ingram either. He's a bit of a solo artist, but not a dynamic one. I don't really see the fit here with Brunson and the crew.

you would start westbrook next to brunson ignoring fit mfer

Are we still “in” on DeRozan?

[Montmorencie]

I don't care what we do, just don't sign playoff P.

[Reign23]

There’s no good options. Just continue to wait.

agree. but on the other hand we might be really short in terms of flexibilty once a star becomes available. depending on what we do with certain players, we could become a second apron team, which makes a superstar trade really really hard. also our first round pick stock decreases year by year.

[Adelheid]

i dont watch the pels so i am gonna ask, is BI a good defender?

[god shammgod]

There’s no good options. Just continue to wait.

agree. but on the other hand we might be really short in terms of flexibilty once a star becomes available. depending on what we do with certain players, we could become a second apron team, which makes a superstar trade really really hard. also our first round pick stock decreases year by year.

i know but if we're choosing between ingram or kat as the final piece i'm not sure it's worth it. plus i don't see the fit unless randle goes in both deals. are we even much better after ? let's see if a pg or butler sign and trade emerges or if something pops up at the deadline. this is really settling.

[thebuzzardman]

There’s no good options. Just continue to wait.

agree. but on the other hand we might be really short in terms of flexibilty once a star becomes available. depending on what we do with certain players, we could become a second apron team, which makes a superstar trade really really hard. also our first round pick stock decreases year by year.

i know but if we're choosing between ingram or kat as the final piece i'm not sure it's worth it. plus i don't see the fit unless randle goes in both deals. are we even much better after ? let's see if a pg or butler sign and trade emerges or if something pops up at the deadline. this is really settling.

Butler is a "try to win now" , mortgage future flexibility, get capped out, get a guy on the downside kind of move that past Knick GMs did.

Hopefully this regime isn't the same.

[god shammgod]

agree. but on the other hand we might be really short in terms of flexibilty once a star becomes available. depending on what we do with certain players, we could become a second apron team, which makes a superstar trade really really hard. also our first round pick stock decreases year by year.

i know but if we're choosing between ingram or kat as the final piece i'm not sure it's worth it. plus i don't see the fit unless randle goes in both deals. are we even much better after ? let's see if a pg or butler sign and trade emerges or if something pops up at the deadline. this is really settling.

Butler is a "try to win now" , mortgage future flexibility, get capped out, get a guy on the downside kind of move that past Knick GMs did.

Hopefully this regime isn't the same.

the knicks are trying to win now. that's a fact. the knicks will be capped out no matter what they do soon. that's a fact too. but it's not the same because this team is close. should anybody older be excluded by this logic ? paul george is the same age.

i would feel more confident in winning it all over the next 2 years with butler or george than with kat or bi in the next 5 years.

[RHODEY]

i know but if we're choosing between ingram or kat as the final piece i'm not sure it's worth it. plus i don't see the fit unless randle goes in both deals. are we even much better after ? let's see if a pg or butler sign and trade emerges or if something pops up at the deadline. this is really settling.

Butler is a "try to win now" , mortgage future flexibility, get capped out, get a guy on the downside kind of move that past Knick GMs did.

Hopefully this regime isn't the same.

the knicks are trying to win now. that's a fact. the knicks will be capped out no matter what they do soon. that's a fact too. but it's not the same because this team is close. should anybody older be excluded by this logic ? paul george is the same age.

i would feel more confident in winning it all over the next 2 years with butler or george than with kat or bi in the next 5 years.

Ideally we should be choosing between Mikal or Giannis.

[Chanel Bomber]

There’s no good options. Just continue to wait.

agree. but on the other hand we might be really short in terms of flexibilty once a star becomes available. depending on what we do with certain players, we could become a second apron team, which makes a superstar trade really really hard. also our first round pick stock decreases year by year.

i know but if we're choosing between ingram or kat as the final piece i'm not sure it's worth it. plus i don't see the fit unless randle goes in both deals. are we even much better after ? let's see if a pg or butler sign and trade emerges or if something pops up at the deadline. this is really settling.

The gap between PG/Butler and someone like Ingram is significant. If our window is now, it's pretty clear to me who I'd consider and who I wouldn't.