2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th)

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Who wins the 2024 NBA FINALS?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:00 am

Celtics in 4
14
3%
Celtics in 5
60
12%
Celtics in 6
138
29%
Celtics in 7
38
8%
Mavericks in 4
14
3%
Mavericks in 5
19
4%
Mavericks in 6
161
33%
Mavericks in 7
40
8%
 
Total votes: 484

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#841 » by bisme37 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:41 pm

JFC I just went out front to check for packages and there was a 3 foot long partially-dead snake on my porch! You Mavs fans are out of control!

(I'm joking about the Mavs fan part but not the snake part unfortunately. Yikes!)
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#842 » by Sweet Serenity » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:45 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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Luka has played alone against Hawks. No Kyrie, Washington, Gafford...Luka is playing good team D.

Injured Pacers are thrown away 3 games, and we're acting like Celtics are unbeatable team. Really? If Luka scores 50, Celtics are not winning games.


Halliburton or no Halliburton, that Pacers offense gives the Celtics more problems than the Mavs offense.


And you know that because 2 games they played against Mavs? You might check how Celtics played against Luka in previous years. 2 game winning shots by Luka and assist to Dinwiddie for the winning shot. And believe me Mavs are much better now. Mavs have lost RS series against all 3 teams they have beat in playoffs.


Why are you using what Luka did against Boston in the regular season if you’re going to point out the regular season doesn’t matter straight after that ?

They didn’t teach you what contradiction means at school ? :lol:
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Post#843 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:50 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
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Halliburton or no Halliburton, that Pacers offense gives the Celtics more problems than the Mavs offense.


And you know that because 2 games they played against Mavs? You might check how Celtics played against Luka in previous years. 2 game winning shots by Luka and assist to Dinwiddie for the winning shot. And believe me Mavs are much better now. Mavs have lost RS series against all 3 teams they have beat in playoffs.


Why are you using what Luka did against Boston in the regular season if you’re going to point out the regular season doesn’t matter straight after that ?

They didn’t teach you what contradiction means at school ? :lol:


You brought RS not me. I'm just returning you favour. RS means very little, but in Mavs case means near 0. They needed some time after the trade, but they're not by accident in the Finals. They're there because they have the system, Luka, second option, who has no problem to be second option and role players, who are doing exactly what Mavs need from them. The difference between Mavs and Pacers is having 2 great half court players, who won't disappeared in the clutch.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#844 » by Sweet Serenity » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:54 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
And you know that because 2 games they played against Mavs? You might check how Celtics played against Luka in previous years. 2 game winning shots by Luka and assist to Dinwiddie for the winning shot. And believe me Mavs are much better now. Mavs have lost RS series against all 3 teams they have beat in playoffs.


Why are you using what Luka did against Boston in the regular season if you’re going to point out the regular season doesn’t matter straight after that ?

They didn’t teach you what contradiction means at school ? :lol:


You brought RS not me. I'm just returning you favour. RS means very little, but in Mavs case means near 0. They needed some time after the trade, but they're not by accident in the Finals. They're there because they have the system, Luka, second option, who has no problem to be second option and role players, who are doing exactly what Mavs need from them.


I didn’t bring up the regular season though ?
I’m pointing out that the Pacers run an offence that gives the Celtics problems.
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Post#845 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:56 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Why are you using what Luka did against Boston in the regular season if you’re going to point out the regular season doesn’t matter straight after that ?

They didn’t teach you what contradiction means at school ? :lol:


You brought RS not me. I'm just returning you favour. RS means very little, but in Mavs case means near 0. They needed some time after the trade, but they're not by accident in the Finals. They're there because they have the system, Luka, second option, who has no problem to be second option and role players, who are doing exactly what Mavs need from them.


I didn’t bring up the regular season though ?
I’m pointing out that the Pacers run an offence that gives the Celtics problems.


And how you know that Pacers are giving you more problems than Mavs, if you're not talking about RS? Pacers offense might be good but they have 1 of the worst D in the league.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#846 » by Ursusamericanus » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:59 pm

Pulling hard for the Mavs but anticipate Celtics winning. Very much hope to be wrong.
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Post#847 » by Sweet Serenity » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:08 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You brought RS not me. I'm just returning you favour. RS means very little, but in Mavs case means near 0. They needed some time after the trade, but they're not by accident in the Finals. They're there because they have the system, Luka, second option, who has no problem to be second option and role players, who are doing exactly what Mavs need from them.


I didn’t bring up the regular season though ?
I’m pointing out that the Pacers run an offence that gives the Celtics problems.


And how you know that Pacers are giving you more problems than Mavs, if you're not talking about RS? Pacers offense might be good but they have 1 of the worst D in the league.


How is this so hard for you to understand lol ?
I’m talking about the styles in which both teams play on offense.
The point about Pacers having one of the worst defenses in the league makes absolutely no sense in this argument too.
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Post#848 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:14 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
I didn’t bring up the regular season though ?
I’m pointing out that the Pacers run an offence that gives the Celtics problems.


And how you know that Pacers are giving you more problems than Mavs, if you're not talking about RS? Pacers offense might be good but they have 1 of the worst D in the league.


How is this so hard for you to understand lol ?
I’m talking about the styles in which both teams play on offense.
The point about Pacers having one of the worst defenses in the league makes absolutely no sense in this argument too.


That's the biggest thing Celtics fans don't understand. In 22 Mavs had 0 rim protection, 0 help D and nobody to rebound, that's why they had 0 chances in WCF. Nowadays their D and rebounding is the reason they're in the Finals. Half court offense with Luka and Kyrie will be always elite, but they're winning games with D.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#849 » by KamikazeK » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:16 pm

Ursusamericanus wrote:Pulling hard for the Mavs but anticipate Celtics winning. Very much hope to be wrong.

What exactly is it about the Mavs that makes you prefer them over the C's? :dontknow: Like it boggles my mind that neutral fans are sooooo eager to see anti-vaxx weirdo kyrie irving get carried to another ring.
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Post#850 » by ITYSL » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:28 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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BeiBeau wrote:But there is a reason Dallas has been the best defensive team in the NBA since March.

By what metric has Dallas been the best defensive team in the NBA since March?

In the regular season, from March 1 on they had the 7th best defensive rating and were 12th in points allowed per game.

In the playoffs they are 7th in defensive rating and 6th in points allowed per game.


They had the best defensive rtg from March 8th, when Kidd changed starting lineup.

So then not since March. Rather, since some very specific date that fits a certain narrative. Let's do it some more:

7th since March 1
2nd since March 12
5th since March 30

That was fun.
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Post#851 » by Ursusamericanus » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:30 pm

KamikazeK wrote:
Ursusamericanus wrote:Pulling hard for the Mavs but anticipate Celtics winning. Very much hope to be wrong.

What exactly is it about the Mavs that makes you prefer them over the C's? :dontknow: Like it boggles my mind that neutral fans are sooooo eager to see anti-vaxx weirdo kyrie irving get carried to another ring.


I'm a big fan of Luka, always have been. Couldn't care less about Kyrie. And well, I'm a Knicks fan. :lol:
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Post#852 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:31 pm

CoP wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
CoP wrote:By what metric has Dallas been the best defensive team in the NBA since March?

In the regular season, from March 1 on they had the 7th best defensive rating and were 12th in points allowed per game.

In the playoffs they are 7th in defensive rating and 6th in points allowed per game.


They had the best defensive rtg from March 8th, when Kidd changed starting lineup.

So then not since March. Rather, since some very specific date that fits a certain narrative. Let's do it some more:

7th since March 1
2nd since March 12
5th since March 30

That was fun.


It's a specific day. The day Kidd changed starting lineup and put Gafford in the starting lineup. Game against Miami.
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Post#853 » by Sweet Serenity » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:34 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
And how you know that Pacers are giving you more problems than Mavs, if you're not talking about RS? Pacers offense might be good but they have 1 of the worst D in the league.


How is this so hard for you to understand lol ?
I’m talking about the styles in which both teams play on offense.
The point about Pacers having one of the worst defenses in the league makes absolutely no sense in this argument too.


That's the biggest thing Celtics fans don't understand. In 22 Mavs had 0 rim protection, 0 help D and nobody to rebound, that's why they had 0 chances in WCF. Nowadays their D and rebounding is the reason they're in the Finals. Half court offense with Luka and Kyrie will be always elite, but they're winning games with D.


Your responses are making absolutely no sense mate. I’m specifically talking about each of the Pacers & Mavericks offence, why do you keep bringing up their defence ?
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Post#854 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:39 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
How is this so hard for you to understand lol ?
I’m talking about the styles in which both teams play on offense.
The point about Pacers having one of the worst defenses in the league makes absolutely no sense in this argument too.


That's the biggest thing Celtics fans don't understand. In 22 Mavs had 0 rim protection, 0 help D and nobody to rebound, that's why they had 0 chances in WCF. Nowadays their D and rebounding is the reason they're in the Finals. Half court offense with Luka and Kyrie will be always elite, but they're winning games with D.


Your responses are making absolutely no sense mate


You just can't comprehend that Mavs can play great offense lead by Luka and great D lead by Lively. You will understand soon enough.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#855 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:40 pm

I think I figured out this thread.

My team is awesome.

You are dumb if you think the other team has a chance.

Then repeat that 50x ever more aggressively.

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Post#856 » by Sweet Serenity » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:42 pm

Bob8 wrote:
CoP wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
They had the best defensive rtg from March 8th, when Kidd changed starting lineup.

So then not since March. Rather, since some very specific date that fits a certain narrative. Let's do it some more:

7th since March 1
2nd since March 12
5th since March 30

That was fun.


It's a specific day. The day Kidd changed starting lineup and put Gafford in the starting lineup. Game against Miami.


He literally just gave you the statistics on where they ranked defensively. Unless you’re saying that on March 8 they had the best defensive rating that day then you are wrong.
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Post#857 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:43 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
CoP wrote:So then not since March. Rather, since some very specific date that fits a certain narrative. Let's do it some more:

7th since March 1
2nd since March 12
5th since March 30

That was fun.


It's a specific day. The day Kidd changed starting lineup and put Gafford in the starting lineup. Game against Miami.


He literally just gave you the statistics on where they ranked defensively. Unless you’re saying that on March 8 they had the best defensive rating that day then you are wrong.


They had the best defensive rtg since March 8th, last 20 games.
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Post#858 » by KamikazeK » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:48 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
That's the biggest thing Celtics fans don't understand. In 22 Mavs had 0 rim protection, 0 help D and nobody to rebound, that's why they had 0 chances in WCF. Nowadays their D and rebounding is the reason they're in the Finals. Half court offense with Luka and Kyrie will be always elite, but they're winning games with D.


Your responses are making absolutely no sense mate


You just can't comprehend that Mavs can play great offense lead by Luka and great D lead by Lively. You will understand soon enough.

Your defense led by a rookie is going to be sliced up like swiss cheese by a veteran team loaded with offensive weapons and an even better defense.
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Post#859 » by Sweet Serenity » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:48 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
That's the biggest thing Celtics fans don't understand. In 22 Mavs had 0 rim protection, 0 help D and nobody to rebound, that's why they had 0 chances in WCF. Nowadays their D and rebounding is the reason they're in the Finals. Half court offense with Luka and Kyrie will be always elite, but they're winning games with D.


Your responses are making absolutely no sense mate


You just can't comprehend that Mavs can play great offense lead by Luka and great D lead by Lively. You will understand soon enough.


It’s like whatever say to you goes through one ear & straight out the other but I’ll say it one last time & hopefully it goes through.

I’m nit talking about the Mavs or Pacers defence. I’m talking about their offences specifically & trying to point out to you that the Pacers offence is a lot harder to defend for the Celtics than the Mavs offence.

Read it 3 times so it finally gets through to you for christ sake ..
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Post#860 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:52 pm

Sweet Serenity wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
Your responses are making absolutely no sense mate


You just can't comprehend that Mavs can play great offense lead by Luka and great D lead by Lively. You will understand soon enough.


It’s like whatever say to you goes through one ear & straight out the other but I’ll say it one last time & hopefully it goes through.

I’m nit talking about the Mavs or Pacers defence. I’m talking about their offences specifically & trying to point out to you that the Pacers offence is a lot harder to defend for the Celtics than the Mavs offence.

Read it 3 times so it finally gets through to you for christ sake ..


So you believe games are decided only by ofense? Interesting. Don't you think Pacers would have won few games with better D?

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