Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25

[playa-hater]

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Detroit needs all that help they can get but they put so much resources on centers that would be such a wasted contract.. He seems to be a much better fit for a ready to win now team.. OKC for example..

[Celts17Pride]

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Detroit needs all that help they can get but they put so much resources on centers that would be such a wasted contract.. He seems to be a much better fit for a ready to win now team.. OKC for example..

Don't get Detroit. They already have like 5 centers

[keevsnick1]

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5 years and $250 million for Siakam? Yeah, no one should ever complain about Jaylen Brown's deal again.

JB is 5 years and $304 million, right? So if JB is worth 60/year, then Siakam is worth 50/year... that seems... about... right? I think JB is a better player in the same tier more or less so a $10 million delta annually seems okay to me.

The issue with Siakam is less about the money and more about the years. With Jaylen's 5 year 35% Max the c's will be paying 5/288 for his age 28-32 seasons. Siakam on a five year 30% max would be 5/247 for his age 30-34 seasons. the fact that Siakam is two years older makes those later years a bit more risky.

[165bows]

Kind of random but I wonder if there would be mutual interest with the team and Aaron Holiday. Had a good year last year on a vet min deal.

Not too many guys out there I’d be that interested in (I mean unless Blake wants to unretire to be our seventh center).

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Larry_Russell]

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Detroit needs all that help they can get but they put so much resources on centers that would be such a wasted contract.. He seems to be a much better fit for a ready to win now team.. OKC for example..

Don't get Detroit. They already have like 5 centers

I want to see him in Orlando personally.

Then orlando move Carter Jr for a gaurd that can help score right now.

PG: Suggs/ Anthony
SG: Trade / Black
SF: F. Wagner / Ingles
PF: Banchero / Isaac
C: Hartenstein / M. Wagner

I love that team, So much fun and still growing together. Hartenstein give them great size in the middle and a skillset that pairs very well with Banchero.

They need a wing scorer, imo. And Carter Jr can bring that in a trade.

[Larry_Russell]

Kind of random but I wonder if there would be mutual interest with the team and Aaron Holiday. Had a good year last year on a vet min deal.

Not too many guys out there I’d be that interested in (I mean unless Blake wants to unretire to be our seventh center).

meh.

I hold out a little hope that Hield takes a minimum to try and win a title here.

Jrue/Pritchard
White/Hield
Brown/Hauser
Tatum/Brissett
Porzingis/Horford

[brackdan70]

Kind of random but I wonder if there would be mutual interest with the team and Aaron Holiday. Had a good year last year on a vet min deal.

Not too many guys out there I’d be that interested in (I mean unless Blake wants to unretire to be our seventh center).

Too small…I have a bias against short guys…though he has an inch or two on me.

[Celts17Pride]

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[Shak_Celts]

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2 day what? NO. I really hope they aren't saying the second round is now a day 2 thing. Ugh, so boring and strung out for no reason.

[Parliament10]

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2 day what? NO. I really hope they aren't saying the second round is now a day 2 thing. Ugh, so boring and strung out for no reason.

Yep. Round Two starts at 4PM, the next day.
It's better this way. There was no time, before. Also it's prime, to add future Rounds.

Most of the other Major Sports have 3-day Drafts.

[Shak_Celts]

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2 day what? NO. I really hope they aren't saying the second round is now a day 2 thing. Ugh, so boring and strung out for no reason.

Yep. Round Two starts at 4PM, the next day.
It's better this way. There was no time, before. Also it's prime, to add future Rounds.

Most of the other Major Sports have 3-day Drafts.

I wish they would have waited until there were more rounds. I think people are prone to trading those 2nds because of how quickly they have to do it (of course they are easy to buy too). Round 2 was already a long night and boring (until our picks), that's only 30 picks for a whole day longer. I hate there are only 32 picks on day 1 for the nfl, it's too much time wasted IMO. We already have to wait all season to get to it. This is about money!

[165bows]

Kind of random but I wonder if there would be mutual interest with the team and Aaron Holiday. Had a good year last year on a vet min deal.

Not too many guys out there I’d be that interested in (I mean unless Blake wants to unretire to be our seventh center).

Too small…I have a bias against short guys…though he has an inch or two on me.

Yeah I think this was when I got frustrated with Pritchard at one point. Just a piece of another version of the ‘replace Pritchard with a power forward and then back fill his absence with someone else’ strategy we all know and love.

[Celts17Pride]

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[shackles10]

I like Looney in a vacuum, but he'll probably want more than vet. min. and he's not an Al replacement.

[snowman]

Brad is going to have a busy summer, resigning / extending players.

1st) He will extend White for whatever it takes, no brainer.
2nd) He will max out Tatum, again, no brainer.

That will give us 6 of our top 7 (Tatum, Brown, Holiday, White, Porzingis and Pritchard) signed long term.
I think Horford has a standing 9-10 million deal on the table until he wants to retire. I also expect Porzingis will be extended next summer, which I think is the earliest he can be extended sine he was just extended this past summer. Also, unless needed for a trade, Springer and Walsh are on their rookie contracts, so he doesn't have to deal with that this summer. That's 9 of the 15. Queta and Hauser are on team options, so unless he wants to extend them now, not much work to be done with these two either. That will be 11 of 15. Brissett has a player option that, in my mind, would shock everyone if he doesn't sign that. Once he resigns, he could be traded though, but since we can't combine salaries due to being over the 2nd tax cap, it really depends on who is available. For now, that is 12 of 15.

3rd) He will resign Tillman. Brad did not trade 2 second round picks for half a season of Tillman. Unless Tillman doesn't want to come back, (highly unlikely) he will resign a new deal probably starting around 2.4 to 2.5 million to stay. (about what Kornet will get) That's 13 of 15.

4th) He will resign Kornet also. Kornet has earned his time here and will help keep Porzingis and Al fresh. Kornet is a minute's eater during the regular season, he will probably come a bit over the minimum deal. Doubt he would get more than the minimum from any other team, so a bit over should keep him around. That's 14 of 15.

I do not see Svi Mykhailiuk, resigning. I think Brad will want to leave a roster spot open for a while, just to see who becomes available.

I think Brad will trade the #30 pick for a 2nd round this year and a 2nd round next year. Maybe to Portland for #40 this year and a 2nd next year. That would give us #40 and $54 to restock our 2-way group for G-League in Maine. Not sure what the status of Davison is, with the new 2-way rules, and not sure if he is ready for the big leagues yet, but Peterson will be back.

[hugepatsfan]

Doubt that we extend White. Hope I'm wrong, and not saying we won't eventually keep him, but the math doesn't math for us this offseason. We can only start his next contract at a 40% raise off the last year of his current deal. You math that out with the max allowable raises and White would just be much better off waiting a year. He can sign for more by waiting until free agency. I think it comes out to something like $28M/year if he extends this offseason. A max contract, for comparison would start at a projected $46.53M his free agency year and go up form there. So a max player gets over $50M year. White isn't a max player, but if a max is $50M he's not a $28M/year player either. He'd be leaving probably at least $60-70M over the course of a 4 year deal to extend next year vs. play out the year and then re-sign.

[hugepatsfan]

I like Looney in a vacuum, but he'll probably want more than vet. min. and he's not an Al replacement.

Remember, teams can trade players into the MLEs now. Looney makes less than the full MLE. So if teams are willing to sign him for that, they'd likely trade with GSW. For them to release him would be implying that no one wanted him.

The taxpayers MLE is a little over $5M, but Looney's been in the league 9 years so his minimum would be over $3M. It isn't a ton of money and the new apron limits how many teams can spend even the tax payers MLE. So the relatively few teams that can might have better options than him.

[165bows]

Doubt that we extend White. Hope I'm wrong, and not saying we won't eventually keep him, but the math doesn't math for us this offseason. We can only start his next contract at a 40% raise off the last year of his current deal. You math that out with the max allowable raises and White would just be much better off waiting a year. He can sign for more by waiting until free agency. I think it comes out to something like $28M/year if he extends this offseason. A max contract, for comparison would start at a projected $46.53M his free agency year and go up form there. So a max player gets over $50M year. White isn't a max player, but if a max is $50M he's not a $28M/year player either. He'd be leaving probably at least $60-70M over the course of a 4 year deal to extend next year vs. play out the year and then re-sign.

That thread on the t+t board

Omg I'm dying that is lethal.

[165bows]

Brad is going to have a busy summer, resigning / extending players.

1st) He will extend White for whatever it takes, no brainer.
2nd) He will max out Tatum, again, no brainer.

That will give us 6 of our top 7 (Tatum, Brown, Holiday, White, Porzingis and Pritchard) signed long term.
I think Horford has a standing 9-10 million deal on the table until he wants to retire. I also expect Porzingis will be extended next summer, which I think is the earliest he can be extended sine he was just extended this past summer. Also, unless needed for a trade, Springer and Walsh are on their rookie contracts, so he doesn't have to deal with that this summer. That's 9 of the 15. Queta and Hauser are on team options, so unless he wants to extend them now, not much work to be done with these two either. That will be 11 of 15. Brissett has a player option that, in my mind, would shock everyone if he doesn't sign that. Once he resigns, he could be traded though, but since we can't combine salaries due to being over the 2nd tax cap, it really depends on who is available. For now, that is 12 of 15.

3rd) He will resign Tillman. Brad did not trade 2 second round picks for half a season of Tillman. Unless Tillman doesn't want to come back, (highly unlikely) he will resign a new deal probably starting around 2.4 to 2.5 million to stay. (about what Kornet will get) That's 13 of 15.

4th) He will resign Kornet also. Kornet has earned his time here and will help keep Porzingis and Al fresh. Kornet is a minute's eater during the regular season, he will probably come a bit over the minimum deal. Doubt he would get more than the minimum from any other team, so a bit over should keep him around. That's 14 of 15.

I do not see Svi Mykhailiuk, resigning. I think Brad will want to leave a roster spot open for a while, just to see who becomes available.

I think Brad will trade the #30 pick for a 2nd round this year and a 2nd round next year. Maybe to Portland for #40 this year and a 2nd next year. That would give us #40 and $54 to restock our 2-way group for G-League in Maine. Not sure what the status of Davison is, with the new 2-way rules, and not sure if he is ready for the big leagues yet, but Peterson will be back.

I thought about this and while it doesn't leave too many decisions I think Kornet gets prioritized over Tillman.

I know they just paid trade costs for Tillman but Kornet has a proven role and production on this team and if only one comes back imo it's Luke.

Anyways in the whole scenario I'm thinking instead of leaving the last spot open they sign Davison to a real NBA deal. Not that he would definitively stick with the team over the course of the whole year but that they could move him easily enough if they want the flexibility. So maybe they get a small asset back for him mid-year, or he stays and does well, or another team just wants to take a flier on him if Boston decides they have other plans.