2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[Rapsfan07]

At 31...yes but at 19...I'd rather get someone with a better motor.

The motor questions are what keep me from liking him.

Wait are you talking about Ware here or Dadiet?

I said Ware at 19 and Dadiet at 31

To clarify...I don't like Ware at 19 because despite the physical tools...it's the mental that could sink him. Motor issues being a concern...I like Ware at 31 more than at 19.

I can personally guarantee he won't be there at #31. Matter of fact, he might not even be there at #19.

If he's on the board at #19, you take him and worry about the rest later IMO.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Da Silva is 23 years old with no standout skills or physical traits.

[Rapsfan07]

Da Silva is 23 years old with no standout skills or physical traits.

Yep. Not sure why he's getting so much love on here. He's a firm DND for me.

[Duffman100]

Watched my first mock draft today. Once it got into the 20s, the scouting reports really felt 2nd round ish.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Da Silva is 23 years old with no standout skills or physical traits.

His shooting is absolutely a standout skill. He's 6-8 without shoes and has shot around 40% from 3 for three consecutive years on good volume. That's much more consistent and a better track record than most prospects who are billed as "shooters". And it's definitely a transferable skill to the NBA at that height.

Whether or not you believe his other skills are enough, or will be improvable enough to be more than someone like Davis Bertans in the league is another story. I happen to think that they will, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to believe otherwise. But I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that he doesn't have a standout skill.

[Thaddy]

Who are your do not draft prospects that will most likely bust (DNDs)?

[ArthurVandelay]

I pointed out that due to age Enrique Freeman (did really well in the combine scrimmages) likely goes undrafted but him and Reece Beekman are my choice for backup PG and backup forward as UDFA's. Jordan Nwora is let walk, Garrett Temple joins the coaching staff? Beekman fight JFL for minutes.

I like the risk of Edey even if he is Senior. He either blows up or is depth. Seemingly so think a lot of teams.

Edey only started playing basketball in grade 10 after he grew too tall to play hockey and baseball...so despite being a senior...he might not have finished learning and feeling the game. College seniors who started playing basketball late...hmmm...sounds like other guys that the Raptors have drafted in the Masai era. His feel for the game is already really good for a guy who's been playing for less than a decade whereas other players have been playing since the age of 8 of perhaps younger.

Edey is also a young senior at just turned 22 in May. Holmes is a JR but turns 22 in august. Edey only 3 months older.

[DG88]

Watched my first mock draft today. Once it got into the 20s, the scouting reports really felt 2nd round ish.

Welcome to the 2024 draft

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Da Silva is 23 years old with no standout skills or physical traits.

His shooting is absolutely a standout skill. He's 6-8 without shoes and has shot around 40% from 3 for three consecutive years on good volume. That's much more consistent and a better track record than most prospects who are billed as "shooters". And it's definitely a transferable skill to the NBA at that height.

Whether or not you believe his other skills are enough, or will be improvable enough to be more than someone like Davis Bertans in the league is another story. I happen to think that they will, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to believe otherwise. But I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that he doesn't have a standout skill.

6'10.25 wingspan with mediocre athleticism isn't what I'd call a standout physical profile and I disagree strongly regarding his shooting and what constitutes "good volume". He's 23. Everything needs to be a lot better at that age than what he has demonstrated. He also didn't take much of a jump between Jr. and Sr. years. It amounts to likely mediocrity and nothing you can't find for cheap via trade or FA in the NBA.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Also I am not comparing Da Silva to other prospects. But if I'm going to and you want a real shooter you can draft Baylor Scheierman.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I think in general with older players you want them to really pop on BPM. Da Silva is solid, but not good enough for me. For me, I'm looking north of 9 BPM or a high ppg.

Jaylon Tyson has the high ppg but his BPM is weak for his age. I think that's a potential role player, but not one I'd waste a FRP on.

Devin Carter has the best of both worlds and tested extremely well at the combine. Same with DaRon Holmes. With Holmes, he definitely gives me the 'hiding in plain sight' feeling I'm looking for.

[mtcan]

Wait are you talking about Ware here or Dadiet?

I said Ware at 19 and Dadiet at 31

To clarify...I don't like Ware at 19 because despite the physical tools...it's the mental that could sink him. Motor issues being a concern...I like Ware at 31 more than at 19.

I can personally guarantee he won't be there at #31. Matter of fact, he might not even be there at #19.

If he's on the board at #19, you take him and worry about the rest later IMO.

I'm quoting this so we might revisit this after the draft.

When too much focus is made on a guy's potential and doesn't address what's between the ears...I have doubts. Sounds too good to be true...unless he can commit himself to using those natural physical gifts 100%...and that is what commonly holds back most of these guys blessed with the high end physical ability and instincts...is that they often will coast and over-rely on that instead of pushing themselves.

He could be the Skal Labissiere of this draft.

We shall see.

[SpezNc]

Raps will come out of this draft with a big. Pretty confident in that.

Likely Ware at 19 or Chomche at 31 but if good upside players drop who knows how big the big will be. Bobi Klintman is 6'10 225 and strokes the 3. Might well be him at 31.. if McCain is there at 19 are we taking Ware? I think not.

It will be Edey/Ware/Missi. And we probably have then ahead of some guards. Not devin though he aint dropping

Why not Filipowski?

[WuTang_CMB]

Likely Ware at 19 or Chomche at 31 but if good upside players drop who knows how big the big will be. Bobi Klintman is 6'10 225 and strokes the 3. Might well be him at 31.. if McCain is there at 19 are we taking Ware? I think not.

It will be Edey/Ware/Missi. And we probably have then ahead of some guards. Not devin though he aint dropping

Why not Filipowski?

I like him i just dont think hes a target for us vs the others. This team badly needs a long energetic 5 man that can defend the rim when Yak is not on the floor.

[Dalek]

Also I am not comparing Da Silva to other prospects. But if I'm going to and you want a real shooter you can draft Baylor Scheierman.

Really good point. I am not sure there are a lot of separating factors. I think Baylor offers a pretty well-rounded game.

Harrison Ingram is also a similarly high IQ guy who hit from 40%.

If we are talking about shooters with size - the best in class is Blake Hinson from Pitt. Look at the volume and disregard for shot contests. He might go undrafted.

For three and D, Jalen Bridges was great in his role and also could be undrafted.

[Dalek]

Who are your do not draft prospects that will most likely bust (DNDs)?

Ryan Dunn. You have to be a playoff team with depth to wait on his shot development. The Knicks who are CAA would likely be the best place for Dunn who is also repped by them.

They can afford to wait, and just throw him out situationally or when Thibs has burnt through his deck of players.

[Dalek]

Raps will come out of this draft with a big. Pretty confident in that.

Likely Ware at 19 or Chomche at 31 but if good upside players drop who knows how big the big will be. Bobi Klintman is 6'10 225 and strokes the 3. Might well be him at 31.. if McCain is there at 19 are we taking Ware? I think not.

It will be Edey/Ware/Missi. And we probably have then ahead of some guards. Not devin though he aint dropping

I have narrowed to Missi as Edey lasting to 19 seems like a pipe dream. Missi's motor and athleticism are stand out. He doesn't shoot it, but he can drive and pass well for his size. Ware just lacks the personality and awareness of a Raptor.

[BoyzNTheHood]

To clarify...I don't like Ware at 19 because despite the physical tools...it's the mental that could sink him. Motor issues being a concern...I like Ware at 31 more than at 19.

I can personally guarantee he won't be there at #31. Matter of fact, he might not even be there at #19.

If he's on the board at #19, you take him and worry about the rest later IMO.

I'm quoting this so we might revisit this after the draft.

When too much focus is made on a guy's potential and doesn't address what's between the ears...I have doubts. Sounds too good to be true...unless he can commit himself to using those natural physical gifts 100%...and that is what commonly holds back most of these guys blessed with the high end physical ability and instincts...is that they often will coast and over-rely on that instead of pushing themselves.

He could be the Skal Labissiere of this draft.

We shall see.

Skal never showed anything, he was all potential based.

[TimeForChange]

Watched my first mock draft today. Once it got into the 20s, the scouting reports really felt 2nd round ish.

need to package 19+31 to move up into the top 15.

after 15 this draft really falls off

[disoblige]

I am not in this thread often, but this site has nice interface with nice data.
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Shot blocking-
Kel'el Ware
Yves Missi
Daron Holmes II (6'8) (age:21.8)
Zach Edey