Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[RHODEY]

Almost feel like we have become too obsessed with defense. We already have defense. One of the best in the league if our core is playing.

We need more ball handlers and shot creators/makers. Guys who can create, break down the defense a little, run a PnR, throw a lob.

How about we get both, more defense and more ball handlers and shot creators/makers? Its not a zero sum equation. But it would be nice to put OG on Tatum, Bridges on Brown, while Brunson and Julius dismantle the Celts on offense.

[HarthorneWingo]

So we get Ingram (and Alvarado ... another midget, lol; I do like him though) for the picks and Bojan. Does Ingram, OG, and Randle all start? How does that work?

Like I was telling Fury earlier, I think it can work. Pelicans are doing something similar already. They're playing Ingram next to a big wing in Herb Jones and a PF in Zion. He can do the same here with OG and Randle

Keep in mind though that during the final minutes of games you'll have Brunson-Ingram and Randle on the court together....meaning you have 3 guys that are not good defensively and you can't realistically bench any of them without causing trouble.....don't know if I like that.

Keep in mind that getting any star player would effectively bench DD and Hart during game finishes....is that something we really want?

Yeah, Thibs will never go for that.

[spree2kawhi]

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Do i need to post stuff about what Nets fans feel about him on defense too? Dude sucks on that end now. You're not living in reality.

DSJ is the guy to get.


lowest risk highest reward


I kinda dont want melton anymore

Yeah a lot of people haven't kept up with him but he's become a really good defender since he left the Knicks. Wouldn't mind seeing him be that ball handler off the bench while Deuce can be that 3 and d guy.

Yeah I was gonna say DSJ Stan … no I’m kidding. He has become very solid. I’ve actually watched the Nets a lot and not just recaps so I could see their intriguing, yet trash roster. I like Lonnie Walker and also Cam Johnson, but DSJ has become pretty impressive. Bridges is the one guy to get though. I won’t say no to Johnson, Walker, DSJ, Schroeder, Finney-Smith and/or Claxton, but it isn’t going to happen.

I have a feeling that a deal for Bridges will likely be done. Let’s hope we get somebody to go with him for all those picks it’ll cost.

[HarthorneWingo]

DSJ is the guy to get.


lowest risk highest reward


I kinda dont want melton anymore

Yeah a lot of people haven't kept up with him but he's become a really good defender since he left the Knicks. Wouldn't mind seeing him be that ball handler off the bench while Deuce can be that 3 and d guy.

Yeah I was gonna say DSJ Stan … no I’m kidding. He has become very solid. I’ve actually watched the Nets a lot and not just recaps so I could see their intriguing, yet trash roster. I like Lonnie Walker and also Cam Johnson, but DSJ has become pretty impressive. Bridges is the one guy to get though. I won’t say no to Johnson, Walker, DSJ, Schroeder, Finney-Smith and/or Claxton, but it isn’t going to happen.

I have a feeling that a deal for Bridges will likely be done. Let’s hope we get somebody to go with him for all those picks it’ll cost.

Don’t let Melo brainwash you guys on DSJ. Deuce is ready better than him. DSJ shot 29% from 3 last season. He scored 6.6 points per game in 19 minutes/gm. What’s so impressive about that?

[GettinitDone]

Can we please shoot down all Donte trade talks... this guy is 3rd in 3pt FGs just behind Steph and Luka, do you know how lethal it is to have a shooting weapon like that, it's not just the makes but how he shoots it, teams would kill to have a top 3 3pt shooter on their roster, opponents facing us see he's 3rd in 3pt makes, there's an undeniable gravity to that. You don't trade him, and "just find someone else to replace his shooting". I said again and again, he makes our offense special, the way OG makes our defense special.

Actually 3 things that make our offense special:
- Donte's shooting
- JB's brilliance
- Julius' physicality (I'm now in keep Ju camp, hard to find someone as physical as Ju on offense)

These are the three elements that synergistically work with each other, teams have to specifically gameplan to stop/ contain them. Have these 3 we are unstoppable, take one out and we're beatable.

Furthermore, Donte is improving not only as a shooter but as a scorer, slasher, better finisher in the paint. He's disruptive defensively and may grow to even become a better defender. Also, already clutch in playoffs and biggest stage, what more do you want?

[HopelessKnick]

Can we please shoot down all Donte trade talks... this guy is 3rd in 3pt FGs just behind Steph and Luka, do you know how lethal it is to have a shooting weapon like that, it's not just the makes but how he shoots it, teams would kill to have a top 3 3pt shooter on their roster, opponents facing us see he's 3rd in 3pt makes, there's an undeniable gravity to that. You don't trade him, and "just find someone else to replace his shooting". I said again and again, he makes our offense special, the way OG makes our defense special.

Actually 3 things that make our offense special:
- Donte's shooting
- JB's brilliance
- Julius' physicality (I'm now in keep Ju camp, hard to find someone as physical as Ju on offense)

These are the three elements that synergistically work with each other, teams have to specifically gameplan to stop/ contain them. Have these 3 we are unstoppable, take one out and we're beatable.

Furthermore, Donte is improving not only as a shooter but as a scorer, slasher, better finisher in the paint. He's disruptive defensively and may grow to even become a better defender. Also, already clutch in playoffs and biggest stage, what more do you want?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think almost all knick fans understand that no one is going to break up the Villanova connection.

I think one reason I believe the FO is not into adding another star player is because the other team would be surely asking for one of the knicks productive role players like Deuce, DD, Hart, Mitch etc. I don't see the Knicks being high on giving any of these guys up. I think the most likely scenario has us getting a guy that would be fine coming off the bench, provide scoring and some playmaking but not cause any disruption or trouble with the team order. Essentially someone you can get with 1-2 late FRPs and expirings (Bogs).

[HopelessKnick]

One team as a potential trade partner to keep an eye on may be Washington. We own their FRP so they have some incentive to make a deal with us to get that one back. We also have some incentive to trade that pick back to them because due to their struggles it has likely lost a lot of value to other teams---but for Washington (flexibility etc.) it likely possesses a lot of value.

With Jones, Avdija and Kuzma they have 3 players that may be of specific interest for us. Jones is a solid PG that can playmake and both their forwards also have some playmaking ability. On top of that I could see them being ok with getting back expirings and picks mostly. Jones and Kuzma also fit the timeline thing as both are 28 years old. The question is whether Kuzma would be ok with coming off the bench. Avdija would probably be a nice two-way fit but I'm a little more unsure whether the Wizards would really agree to trade him.

[thebuzzardman]

Worth noting in the last 2 years Ingram has played 70% of his minutes at SG and 30% at SF. He truthfully hasn’t played SF primarily since 2021

He’s also played about 50% of his games.

We don’t need any more guys made of glass.

Provides plenty of minutes for Donte and Hart though

[3toheadmelo]

Worth noting in the last 2 years Ingram has played 70% of his minutes at SG and 30% at SF. He truthfully hasn’t played SF primarily since 2021

Yep, already used to playing SG

[3toheadmelo]

Not sure why people are trying to make it a DSJ vs Deuce thing when the people that want DSJ want him paired with Deuce. not surprised those folks that are making that false narrative were frank fans. Still insecure about the fact that DSJ is much better than frank eh

[aggo]

Not sure why people are trying to make it a DSJ vs Deuce thing when the people that want DSJ want him paired with Deuce. not surprised those folks that are making that false narrative were frank fans. Still insecure about the fact that DSJ is much better than frank eh

Ppl here don’t know ball if they think McBride is a backup pg

[3toheadmelo]

Not sure why people are trying to make it a DSJ vs Deuce thing when the people that want DSJ want him paired with Deuce. not surprised those folks that are making that false narrative were frank fans. Still insecure about the fact that DSJ is much better than frank eh

Ppl here don’t know ball if they think McBride is a backup pg

Facts. Nothing wrong with Deuce being that 3 and D guard off the bench. But he clearly isnt a pg.

[Capn'O]

Mikal's defense has suffered because he's been asked to be a first option and he's not a first option.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Not sure why people are trying to make it a DSJ vs Deuce thing when the people that want DSJ want him paired with Deuce. not surprised those folks that are making that false narrative were frank fans. Still insecure about the fact that DSJ is much better than frank eh

Someone with more size who is a better scorer/shooter would be a better fit over DSJ. He’s not a bad backup pg just wouldn’t be a priority since we have limited assets.

[3toheadmelo]

Mikal's defense has suffered because he's been asked to be a first option and he's not a first option.

They stopped using him as a 1st option for a while now and his defense is still very bad

[Deeeez Knicks]

Not sure why people are trying to make it a DSJ vs Deuce thing when the people that want DSJ want him paired with Deuce. not surprised those folks that are making that false narrative were frank fans. Still insecure about the fact that DSJ is much better than frank eh

Ppl here don’t know ball if they think McBride is a backup pg

Meanwhile you have been dead wrong about Deuce so far. He will just continue to prove you wrong

[DOT]

Frank still living rent free in peoples' heads lol

Talk about insecurity

[thebuzzardman]

Not advocating for Ingram, but Thibs isn't shy about running out lineups in the mid 4th quarter that emphasize defense over offense.

There were times starters got the hook for a better defender. IQ and McBride have both gotten minutes like this.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Frank still living rent free in peoples' heads lol

Talk about insecurity

I actually wanted to draft DSJ over Frank.
They both ended up as busts. I don't even know why it came up

[thebuzzardman]

Not sure why people are trying to make it a DSJ vs Deuce thing when the people that want DSJ want him paired with Deuce. not surprised those folks that are making that false narrative were frank fans. Still insecure about the fact that DSJ is much better than frank eh

Ppl here don’t know ball if they think McBride is a backup pg

Meanwhile you have been dead wrong about Deuce so far. He will just continue to prove you wrong

Melo trying to advocate for a trade that blocks Bridges but also buries Deuce with Alvarado. Very bad person.