2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th)

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Who wins the 2024 NBA FINALS?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:00 am

Celtics in 4
14
3%
Celtics in 5
60
12%
Celtics in 6
138
29%
Celtics in 7
38
8%
Mavericks in 4
14
3%
Mavericks in 5
19
4%
Mavericks in 6
161
33%
Mavericks in 7
40
8%
 
Total votes: 484

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1021 » by ajones9219 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 9:19 pm

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That's a little bit better, yeah, thank you. I still want to provide a little more context here, if you don't mind. When we played you guys post trade, we were actually in the middle of a terrible slid. During those roughly two weeks, we surrendered 133 to the Pacers, 121 to the Cavs, 125 to the Raptors, 120 to Philly, 137 to the Pacers, and 138 to you, within like 10 days or something like that. The team clearly didn't work then, and watching all the Mavs games this year, something has definitely clicked after that, and I feel this is a different team compared to that Mavs team. Obviously the same roster, and obviously, there is always a chance to get back to a lesser form, so I'm not entirely sure it cannot happen, it would just surprise me at this point, after this run, in a finals.

I am also hoping that the difference in the playoff net rating, which is no doubt significant, is somewhat of a result of the difference of the opponents. I don't really buy into the "Celtics had an easy road" narrative, because it's never easy to make the finals, and clearly the Celtics had to win some clutch games to get there. Teams can always muck it up, and you simply end up in low scoring games sometimes, even if you have the best offense. And when that happened, the Celtics still won, so clearly they are very, very good. Anyway, I think this series will come down how the Celtics defend the pick&roll, they rarely blitz, and I'm not entirely sure this will be a good idea against the Mavs (never putting two on the ball).

And on the other end, how will the Mavs defend the three point line? Dallas was kind of middle of the pack during the regular season, and kind of middle of the pack in the playoffs too, I think that might not be enough, and they will have to switch it up. Closing down the paint worked against OKC and the T-Wolves, but it didn't really work against the Clippers, and the Celtics are an ever better shooting team. Therefore, we might see more Maxi and small ball from the Mavs this series, especially if the Celtics were to come out on fire and make a bunch of threes, and win game 1. So I think the Celtics might have to switch up their pick & roll D, especially if KP isn't 100%, which I kind of expect (he always needed a lot of time to get back into form after injuries), and I definitely feel we'll have to switch up our 3PT% defense, and be more aggressive on closeouts.


Totally understand that context. However, Luka put up 37/12/11, and Kyrie put up 19. Realistically can the Mavs play better or Boston play worse? Sure, but it was also 28 point game.

Boston probably won't consistently shoot like 49% from 3 tbf, but the shot quality was excellent because as you point out, Dallas isn't great guarding the 3. The plan so far this postseason has been to surrender 3s from bad shooters but Boston doesn't have any (none that will see the floor anyway).

Again I'm being as respectful as I can and trying to not make any statements that don't have statistical backing.


If Celtics shoot near 50% for 3, there won't be a series. But luckily Celtics are shooting worse from 3 than Mavs in playoffs and are making just 2 3-pointers more than Mavs. Maybe Mavs are not the best perimeter defenders, but I kinda doubt Celtics will made 20 3s per game, shooting 50%.


I agree with you that the Celtics wont shoot 50% for the series obviously ...but the Mavs are statistically the worst 3pt defense Boston will have seen so far in the playoffs and Boston is by far the best shooting team Dallas will have faced.

I expect at minimum one game you'll see that kind of output.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1022 » by Bob8 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 9:28 pm

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Bob8 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Totally understand that context. However, Luka put up 37/12/11, and Kyrie put up 19. Realistically can the Mavs play better or Boston play worse? Sure, but it was also 28 point game.

Boston probably won't consistently shoot like 49% from 3 tbf, but the shot quality was excellent because as you point out, Dallas isn't great guarding the 3. The plan so far this postseason has been to surrender 3s from bad shooters but Boston doesn't have any (none that will see the floor anyway).

Again I'm being as respectful as I can and trying to not make any statements that don't have statistical backing.


If Celtics shoot near 50% for 3, there won't be a series. But luckily Celtics are shooting worse from 3 than Mavs in playoffs and are making just 2 3-pointers more than Mavs. Maybe Mavs are not the best perimeter defenders, but I kinda doubt Celtics will made 20 3s per game, shooting 50%.


I agree with you that the Celtics wont shoot 50% for the series obviously ...but the Mavs are statistically the worst 3pt defense Boston will have seen so far in the playoffs and Boston is by far the best shooting team Dallas will have faced.

I expect at minimum one game you'll see that kind of output.


Could be. Btw. Wolves were +36 points in 3s in game 1, it wasn't enough. I don't believe just shooting 3s will bring the title to Boston. Not letting anything easy inside is kinda solid blueprint, with needed adjustments during series. Celtics not having anyone as good as Shai in midrange might be important in this series too.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1023 » by scrabbarista » Sun Jun 2, 2024 9:44 pm

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scrabbarista wrote:Popping in to comment on the "legacy" stakes for this Finals. Probably the first time in a long time that we've had a Finals without a single player who currently belonged in the historical top seventy-five. Pretty weird!

Among many silly results, the 2023 Realgm Top 100 put Tatum over Doncic for their careers so far. Here's where I have the relevant players heading into the Finals: [projected movement is based on guess-timations]

78th - Luka Doncic - With a loss, he doesn't get much movement, but with a win, I probably bump him 25-30 spots. Big stakes!

100th - Kyrie Irving - A win for Dallas probably pushes Irving about 15 spots higher.


102nd - Jrue Holiday - A lot of wiggle-room here, but a win might give him another 5 spots.

112th - Jayson Tatum - Tatum is at an inflection point where even a loss probably gives him another 10 spots. With a win, depending on how things play out, he could see a jump of something like 50 spots.

118th - Al Horford - A win might give Horford another 25 spots! At any rate, he has a shot at squeezing into the top 100.

276th - Jaylen Brown - A Boston win might put Brown's ranking at around 200th.

335th - Kristaps Porzingis - If Boston wins, KP probably moves comfortably into the top 300.

N/A because I haven't input his numbers yet - Derrick White.


Why does Luka not move with a loss but Tatum move 10 spots with a loss?

Luka just made his first finals. Tatum has made one before and his run so far hasn't been particularly impressive.


The reason is because it's a lot more bunched together at 100-110 than it is at 75-80.

So, for example, if Doncic added "3 points" to his career score, he'd only jump two spots. But if Tatum added the same amount, he'd jump fourteen spots.

Actually, I need to backtrack on one thing: it doesn't look like that 50-spot leap is available to Tatum, as it depends on a multiplier activated by a statistical separation from teammates that he doesn't have. I don't have my computer on anymore, but I'd guess Tatum maxes out at a jump of like 25 spots. So, win or lose, Doncic will probably still be ranked above Tatum.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1024 » by ajones9219 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 9:55 pm

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If Celtics shoot near 50% for 3, there won't be a series. But luckily Celtics are shooting worse from 3 than Mavs in playoffs and are making just 2 3-pointers more than Mavs. Maybe Mavs are not the best perimeter defenders, but I kinda doubt Celtics will made 20 3s per game, shooting 50%.


I agree with you that the Celtics wont shoot 50% for the series obviously ...but the Mavs are statistically the worst 3pt defense Boston will have seen so far in the playoffs and Boston is by far the best shooting team Dallas will have faced.

I expect at minimum one game you'll see that kind of output.


Could be. Btw. Wolves were +36 points in 3s in game 1, it wasn't enough. I don't believe just shooting 3s will bring the title to Boston. Not letting anything easy inside is kinda solid blueprint, with needed adjustments during series. Celtics not having anyone as good as Shai in midrange might be important in this series too.


I personally think you're underestimating the gap between Minny and Bostons shooting ability. Boston could end one of these games +30 from 3 for one game
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1025 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 2, 2024 9:57 pm

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Hell of an opinion you have there.


Finally. Someone who acknowledged it as a opinion.


I didn’t say I agreed with it.


Who said you did.

Celtics in 5 is just a opinion that those who don't know Anything about the Celtics don't agree with.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1026 » by TravisScott55 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:06 pm

Gonna be such a great series.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1027 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:07 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
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ajones9219 wrote:
That isn't how the NBA works, especially when your core is literally the same. If you TRULY believe that literally no metrics are useful to compare the two teams then just go back to the Mavs board and come back once the games start. I'm not saying this to be mean, but literally what is the point of discussing the series if you're just going to say any discussion topics are just irrelevant.

I personally think any metrics are both fair game and relevant if Kyrie and Luka were on the floor.


There are definitely useful metrics, and it would start with looking at everything from the trade onward until the final, but so far I haven't really seen those stats. Looking at the two teams' playoff metrics could also tell us something, but so far most of what I've seen was full regular season stats vs. full regular season stats.


I posted this early in this thread and got about 5 replies as to why these numbers weren't relevant. The numbers actually make perfect sense to the eye test. Both Boston and Dallas got better post-deadline. Boston is still statistically the better team and you can even see the little dip in the playoffs once we lose Porzingis.

Full RS comparison:

Boston: 122.2 OFFRTG/110.6 DEFRTG/11.7 NETRTG
Dallas: 117.0 OFFRTG/114.9 DEFRTG/2.1 NETRTG

Post Deadline RS:
Boston: 125.5 OFFRTG/110.6 DEFRTG/14.6 NETRTG
Dallas: 115.8 OFFRTG/112.1 DEFRTG/3.7 NETRTG

Playoffs:
Boston: 119.6 OFFRTG/108.7 DEFRTG/10.8 NETRTG
Dallas: 115.2 OFFRTG/111.1 DEFRTG/4.1 NETRTG

Boston Rankings in playoffs: 2nd in OFFRTG/ 3rd in DEFRTG/ and 1st in NETRTG
Dallas Ranking in playoffs: 6th in OFFRTG/ 7th in DEFRTG/ 4th in NETRTG

H2H obviously favors Boston post trade deadline too with the 1 game being a 28 point Boston win.

I also would love to make it known that I find all the posts just saying LOLz Boston in 4 or Mavs in 4. Luka good, Tatum bad without providing data are completely absurd and just derail the conversations. I like to believe that I am presenting my opinions on the series in good faith just due to how the hard numbers shake out.

Gafford and DJJ were not even starting at this time. Kidd was still trying to figure out his lineup. Again this team that is playing now is not close to any Mavs team the Celtics faced during the season. You might as well have been playing the pre season Mavs.
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Post#1028 » by Bob8 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:08 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
I agree with you that the Celtics wont shoot 50% for the series obviously ...but the Mavs are statistically the worst 3pt defense Boston will have seen so far in the playoffs and Boston is by far the best shooting team Dallas will have faced.

I expect at minimum one game you'll see that kind of output.


Could be. Btw. Wolves were +36 points in 3s in game 1, it wasn't enough. I don't believe just shooting 3s will bring the title to Boston. Not letting anything easy inside is kinda solid blueprint, with needed adjustments during series. Celtics not having anyone as good as Shai in midrange might be important in this series too.


I personally think you're underestimating the gap between Minny and Bostons shooting ability. Boston could end one of these games +30 from 3 for one game


Sure it could. I just wanted to point out that shooting for 3 is just 1 segment. Mavs were in game 1 -36 for 3, but they scored 61 points in the paint and were + 8 in rebounds. Those 2 things were unexpected before series started and were impossible before trades happened. Mavs might have problem defending 3s in this series, but Celtics might have few problems too.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1029 » by Mr B » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:11 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Totally understand that context. However, Luka put up 37/12/11, and Kyrie put up 19. Realistically can the Mavs play better or Boston play worse? Sure, but it was also 28 point game.

Boston probably won't consistently shoot like 49% from 3 tbf, but the shot quality was excellent because as you point out, Dallas isn't great guarding the 3. The plan so far this postseason has been to surrender 3s from bad shooters but Boston doesn't have any (none that will see the floor anyway).

Again I'm being as respectful as I can and trying to not make any statements that don't have statistical backing.


If Celtics shoot near 50% for 3, there won't be a series. But luckily Celtics are shooting worse from 3 than Mavs in playoffs and are making just 2 3-pointers more than Mavs. Maybe Mavs are not the best perimeter defenders, but I kinda doubt Celtics will made 20 3s per game, shooting 50%.


I agree with you that the Celtics wont shoot 50% for the series obviously ...but the Mavs are statistically the worst 3pt defense Boston will have seen so far in the playoffs and Boston is by far the best shooting team Dallas will have faced.

I expect at minimum one game you'll see that kind of output.

Are they the worst 3 point defending team since the beginning of the season or in the playoffs?
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Post#1030 » by LaLover11 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:17 pm

Is Horford and Porz going to stop the Lob attack?
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Post#1031 » by zeebneeb » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:45 pm

LaLover11 wrote:Is Horford and Porz going to stop the Lob attack?
No of course not, but both teams are going to have to drastically change how they have been playing defense throughout the playoffs, as neither team, has faced a team like each other yet.

The chess moves from each coaching staff is going to be really interesting.
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Post#1032 » by dygaction » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:52 pm

Which lineup is better positioned to defend Luka:

24 Celtics: White/Holiday/Tatum/Brown/Pritchard/Hauser
21 Clippers: Batum/Morris/Kawhi/PG13/Mann/Rondo/Beverley
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1033 » by ajones9219 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:56 pm

Mr B wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
If Celtics shoot near 50% for 3, there won't be a series. But luckily Celtics are shooting worse from 3 than Mavs in playoffs and are making just 2 3-pointers more than Mavs. Maybe Mavs are not the best perimeter defenders, but I kinda doubt Celtics will made 20 3s per game, shooting 50%.


I agree with you that the Celtics wont shoot 50% for the series obviously ...but the Mavs are statistically the worst 3pt defense Boston will have seen so far in the playoffs and Boston is by far the best shooting team Dallas will have faced.

I expect at minimum one game you'll see that kind of output.

Are they the worst 3 point defending team since the beginning of the season or in the playoffs?


Beginning of season, but it's pretty consistent through the playoffs. Heat gave up a worse percentage out of Bostons opponents and the Mavs sit basically tied with Indy at 9th out of all playoff teams in opponent 3pt %.
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Post#1034 » by LaLover11 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:57 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Horford and Porz going to stop the Lob attack?
No of course not, but both teams are going to have to drastically change how they have been playing defense throughout the playoffs, as neither team, has faced a team like each other yet.

The chess moves from each coaching staff is going to be really interesting.


Mavs are just going to stick PJ on Tatum and Green/Hardaway JR on Brown for foul purposes

They are happy with JB and Tatum taking turns shooting jumpers and tough layups vs Gafford/Lively

The problem the Celtics have is that they won't be happy with Luka and Kyrie just taking Jumpers because they are clearly the better Duo that can post up, mid range you to death and hit clutch 3 Daggers vs your best defenders!

Let's not mention the PJ corner 3's if you double Luka/Kyrie..... And than the lob threat every single possession 48 mins a game

Smh Celtics really needed a Defensive SF Star Specialist like Dort that give Luka trouble and let Brown/Tatum focus on strictly offense.

Jrue and White will be good on Kyrie but honestly he had a bigger problem with SGA and Thunder because he also had to defense a MVP PG that can easily destroy you.

White and Jrue won't make Kyrie work on defense which will in my opinion a make the Celtics Lose in 6 games

You can't have Luka and Kyrie be available to both hit 30 pts a game or potential 40pt games.

Celtics need Jimmy/Dort/Nesmith type Wings to help the Tatum/Brown on defense
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Post#1035 » by Zetsword » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:02 pm

Boston really needs Porzingis, he's the key here. I don't know how they resist the lob threat and pull them out of the paint with only Horford the whole series.
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Post#1036 » by ajones9219 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:15 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Is Horford and Porz going to stop the Lob attack?
No of course not, but both teams are going to have to drastically change how they have been playing defense throughout the playoffs, as neither team, has faced a team like each other yet.

The chess moves from each coaching staff is going to be really interesting.


Mavs are just going to stick PJ on Tatum and Green/Hardaway JR on Brown for foul purposes

They are happy with JB and Tatum taking turns shooting jumpers and tough layups vs Gafford/Lively

The problem the Celtics have is that they won't be happy with Luka and Kyrie just taking Jumpers because they are clearly the better Duo that can post up, mid range you to death and hit clutch 3 Daggers vs your best defenders!

Let's not mention the PJ corner 3's if you double Luka/Kyrie..... And than the lob threat every single possession 48 mins a game

Smh Celtics really needed a Defensive SF Star Specialist like Dort that give Luka trouble and let Brown/Tatum focus on strictly offense.

Jrue and White will be good on Kyrie but honestly he had a bigger problem with SGA and Thunder because he also had to defense a MVP PG that can easily destroy you.

White and Jrue won't make Kyrie work on defense which will in my opinion a make the Celtics Lose in 6 games

You can't have Luka and Kyrie be available to both hit 30 pts a game or potential 40pt games.

Celtics need Jimmy/Dort/Nesmith type Wings to help the Tatum/Brown on defense


Assuming they don't just force switches to have Luka and Kyrie have to guard Tatum and Brown...which literally happens every time they play and both guards get torched.
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Post#1037 » by LaLover11 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:21 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:No of course not, but both teams are going to have to drastically change how they have been playing defense throughout the playoffs, as neither team, has faced a team like each other yet.

The chess moves from each coaching staff is going to be really interesting.


Mavs are just going to stick PJ on Tatum and Green/Hardaway JR on Brown for foul purposes

They are happy with JB and Tatum taking turns shooting jumpers and tough layups vs Gafford/Lively

The problem the Celtics have is that they won't be happy with Luka and Kyrie just taking Jumpers because they are clearly the better Duo that can post up, mid range you to death and hit clutch 3 Daggers vs your best defenders!

Let's not mention the PJ corner 3's if you double Luka/Kyrie..... And than the lob threat every single possession 48 mins a game

Smh Celtics really needed a Defensive SF Star Specialist like Dort that give Luka trouble and let Brown/Tatum focus on strictly offense.

Jrue and White will be good on Kyrie but honestly he had a bigger problem with SGA and Thunder because he also had to defense a MVP PG that can easily destroy you.

White and Jrue won't make Kyrie work on defense which will in my opinion a make the Celtics Lose in 6 games

You can't have Luka and Kyrie be available to both hit 30 pts a game or potential 40pt games.

Celtics need Jimmy/Dort/Nesmith type Wings to help the Tatum/Brown on defense


Assuming they don't just force switches to have Luka and Kyrie have to guard Tatum and Brown...which literally happens every time they play and both guards get torched.


You don't understand, Mavs don't care if you switch Tatum or Brown on Kyrie/Luka

Luka & Kyrie give zero F's about stopping your star players. They will give a decent defensive rotation/possession on them but will simply funnel them to PJ/Lively/Gafford

The difference is that Celtics can't do the same and let Brown/Tatum play half ass defense and let Luka/Kyrie get funneled into Horford/Porz & whoever big that they even have!

Celtics is simply just a bad matchup with Mavs in the Playoffs and Finals.

We can talk season/late season results all we want but the Mavs have figured it out just the way the Nuggets and Jokic made the machine work flawlessly.

If you ask me Mavs would've also beat the Nuggets which is reality are more talented than than the Celtics.
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Post#1038 » by ajones9219 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:25 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
Mavs are just going to stick PJ on Tatum and Green/Hardaway JR on Brown for foul purposes

They are happy with JB and Tatum taking turns shooting jumpers and tough layups vs Gafford/Lively

The problem the Celtics have is that they won't be happy with Luka and Kyrie just taking Jumpers because they are clearly the better Duo that can post up, mid range you to death and hit clutch 3 Daggers vs your best defenders!

Let's not mention the PJ corner 3's if you double Luka/Kyrie..... And than the lob threat every single possession 48 mins a game

Smh Celtics really needed a Defensive SF Star Specialist like Dort that give Luka trouble and let Brown/Tatum focus on strictly offense.

Jrue and White will be good on Kyrie but honestly he had a bigger problem with SGA and Thunder because he also had to defense a MVP PG that can easily destroy you.

White and Jrue won't make Kyrie work on defense which will in my opinion a make the Celtics Lose in 6 games

You can't have Luka and Kyrie be available to both hit 30 pts a game or potential 40pt games.

Celtics need Jimmy/Dort/Nesmith type Wings to help the Tatum/Brown on defense


Assuming they don't just force switches to have Luka and Kyrie have to guard Tatum and Brown...which literally happens every time they play and both guards get torched.


You don't understand, Mavs don't care if you switch Tatum or Brown on Kyrie/Luka

Luka & Kyrie give zero F's about stopping your star players. They will give a decent defensive rotation/possession on them but will simply funnel them to PJ/Lively/Gafford

The difference is that Celtics can't do the same and let Brown/Tatum play half ass defense and let Luka/Kyrie get funneled into Horford/Porz & whoever big that they even have!

Celtics is simply just a bad matchup with Mavs in the Playoffs and Finals.

We can talk season/late season results all we want but the Mavs have figured it out just the way the Nuggets and Jokic made the machine work flawlessly.

If you ask me Mavs would've also beat the Nuggets which is reality are more talented than than the Celtics.


lol brother you are just wrong here. The literally best matchup in the NBA for the Celtics to exploit are the Mavericks. As a C's fan if you could have let me pick the easy path to a chip, I'd choose the Mavs all day.

Also KP is at minimum as good a rim protector as the Mavs bigs so you're actually just talking nonsense.
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Post#1039 » by itrsteve » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:26 pm

The week+ off sucks. I'd even watch Detroit play the Wizards right now
[quote=“dkb964”]156-1 Celtics are frauds when pressure is put on them. They would have been toast if Luka was not stupid enough to foul himself out. Enjoy this ONE finals win. There will never be another with the Js and the Celtics cant afford stacked team.[/quote]
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1040 » by ajones9219 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:39 pm

itrsteve wrote:The week+ off sucks. I'd even watch Detroit play the Wizards right now


Wouldn't be so bad if we could fill the week with actual basketball analysis of the matchup vs "Did Tatum smile big enough at Brown getting East MVP?!?"

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