Chicago - LAL

[Scoot McGroot]

Lakers don't need or want Vuc (or DDR). It's Caruso or nothing I suspect.

I could see a DeMar SnT with Caruso.


Rui+JHS+17


Caruso, Reaves, DeMar, LeBron, Davis

How are the Lakers getting under the first apron there?

[zimpy27]

Lakers don't need or want Vuc (or DDR). It's Caruso or nothing I suspect.

I could see a DeMar SnT with Caruso.


Rui+JHS+17


Caruso, Reaves, DeMar, LeBron, Davis

How are the Lakers getting under the first apron there?

By letting DLo walk

[ChettheJet]

Vucevic at the 5 with AD next to him would be the first time that he had a real PF. Vuc doesn't get the blocked shot stats that people love but I'd like to see what he could do if he's not the only big on the floor. If you think it's bad defense from Vucevic that he goes to stop a shot so his guy misses but the rotation isn't there and there's an uncontested put back, then yeah he's bad because he can't cover 2 guys in the lane.

Sure if the Lakers want Caruso at the same time make it #17 and JHS and Jaxson Hayes. The Bulls have Javon Carter at half the price of Vincent, they don't need to of the same back up guards that hardly play. If the Bulls were to bring back Javonte Green to actually play guard, he's ahead of both Vincent and Carter for less money.

Aaron Gordon wasn't a real PF?

He played next to Ibaka in Orlando.

For half of a season.

OK SO YOU BOTH GET IT, I WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS 3 PLUS SEASONS WITH THE CHICAGO BULLS FRANCHISE. What he did in ORL got him to CHI but he was much better in Florida with those genuine PFs.

[Scoot McGroot]

I could see a DeMar SnT with Caruso.


Rui+JHS+17


Caruso, Reaves, DeMar, LeBron, Davis

How are the Lakers getting under the first apron there?

By letting DLo walk

Letting DLo walk would put you about $14m under the first apron. What’s the rest of the deal? Rui/JHS/17 would allow you to take back about $27m, if you sign 17 and wait 30 days to include their salary. Caruso is almost $10m of that, and DDR would take what….$25m? So you’d be short. Or Are you just hoping to get him for a little over MLE at the $17m remaining? Even if you do get that lucky, you’re $8m under the first apron with 4-5 roster spots left to fill.

As you can see, it requires DDR signing for very little, and even then, requires LA to fill 4-5 vet minimum spots (and they can’t really be the 2 years with player options like it took to get Hayes and Reddish, as their cap numbers would be higher).

[mademan]

Lakers don't have the assets for Caruso, Jeannie shouldn't have let him go over pennies.

Lakers definitely DO have the assets for Caruso, cmon now.

[Karmaloop]

Lakers don't want Vuc. Lakers don't have assets for Caruso. Nothing really to discuss. The Venn diagram of trades that the two teams would be OK with are two separate circles.

If Caruso were some super valuable asset, he would have been dealt by now for a hefty price tag. The more likely scenario is the Bulls' GM has been overvaluing him, and now he's an expiring contract.

[coldfish]

Lakers don't want Vuc. Lakers don't have assets for Caruso. Nothing really to discuss. The Venn diagram of trades that the two teams would be OK with are two separate circles.

If Caruso were some super valuable asset, he would have been dealt by now for a hefty price tag. The more likely scenario is the Bulls' GM has been overvaluing him, and now he's an expiring contract.

Chicago's management are a bunch of idiots. You need to keep that in mind.

Regardless, the Bulls got offers of 2 1sts for Caruso at the deadline and said no. So, yeah, they are overvaluing him but LA isn't even in the ballpark.

Reportedly the team wants to extend him btw.

[zimpy27]

How are the Lakers getting under the first apron there?

By letting DLo walk

Letting DLo walk would put you about $14m under the first apron. What’s the rest of the deal? Rui/JHS/17 would allow you to take back about $27m, if you sign 17 and wait 30 days to include their salary. Caruso is almost $10m of that, and DDR would take what….$25m? So you’d be short. Or Are you just hoping to get him for a little over MLE at the $17m remaining? Even if you do get that lucky, you’re $8m under the first apron with 4-5 roster spots left to fill.

As you can see, it requires DDR signing for very little, and even then, requires LA to fill 4-5 vet minimum spots (and they can’t really be the 2 years with player options like it took to get Hayes and Reddish, as their cap numbers would be higher).

Oh I think DeMar is taking $15-17m.

[Godaddycurse]

By letting DLo walk

Letting DLo walk would put you about $14m under the first apron. What’s the rest of the deal? Rui/JHS/17 would allow you to take back about $27m, if you sign 17 and wait 30 days to include their salary. Caruso is almost $10m of that, and DDR would take what….$25m? So you’d be short. Or Are you just hoping to get him for a little over MLE at the $17m remaining? Even if you do get that lucky, you’re $8m under the first apron with 4-5 roster spots left to fill.

As you can see, it requires DDR signing for very little, and even then, requires LA to fill 4-5 vet minimum spots (and they can’t really be the 2 years with player options like it took to get Hayes and Reddish, as their cap numbers would be higher).

Oh I think DeMar is taking $15-17m.

Isnt Chicago offering him 40M?

[Scoot McGroot]

Letting DLo walk would put you about $14m under the first apron. What’s the rest of the deal? Rui/JHS/17 would allow you to take back about $27m, if you sign 17 and wait 30 days to include their salary. Caruso is almost $10m of that, and DDR would take what….$25m? So you’d be short. Or Are you just hoping to get him for a little over MLE at the $17m remaining? Even if you do get that lucky, you’re $8m under the first apron with 4-5 roster spots left to fill.

As you can see, it requires DDR signing for very little, and even then, requires LA to fill 4-5 vet minimum spots (and they can’t really be the 2 years with player options like it took to get Hayes and Reddish, as their cap numbers would be higher).

Oh I think DeMar is taking $15-17m.

Isnt Chicago offering him 40M?

2/80, I think has been reported. Non taxpayer MLE is almost $13m this year. I can’t imagine he just takes $15-17m. Like, I think he’d end up in a Sprewell type situation where he expects more and waits, and may end up not signing at all because of low offers before he just takes a sign and trade early in free agency for so little.

[zimpy27]

Letting DLo walk would put you about $14m under the first apron. What’s the rest of the deal? Rui/JHS/17 would allow you to take back about $27m, if you sign 17 and wait 30 days to include their salary. Caruso is almost $10m of that, and DDR would take what….$25m? So you’d be short. Or Are you just hoping to get him for a little over MLE at the $17m remaining? Even if you do get that lucky, you’re $8m under the first apron with 4-5 roster spots left to fill.

As you can see, it requires DDR signing for very little, and even then, requires LA to fill 4-5 vet minimum spots (and they can’t really be the 2 years with player options like it took to get Hayes and Reddish, as their cap numbers would be higher).

Oh I think DeMar is taking $15-17m.

Isnt Chicago offering him 40M?

Chicago are drunk

[Karmaloop]

Chicago's management are a bunch of idiots. You need to keep that in mind.

Regardless, the Bulls got offers of 2 1sts for Caruso at the deadline and said no. So, yeah, they are overvaluing him but LA isn't even in the ballpark.

Reportedly the team wants to extend him btw.

Of course they are. And it's amazing how that anonymous report about a team offering 2 FRPs for Caruso lacked any real facts behind it. I mean, it could have been the Knicks offering their 2 late FRPs this year for him. Taking an anonymous report and inflating it's value isn't the direction I would take...

[mademan]

Lakers don't want Vuc. Lakers don't have assets for Caruso. Nothing really to discuss. The Venn diagram of trades that the two teams would be OK with are two separate circles.

If Caruso were some super valuable asset, he would have been dealt by now for a hefty price tag. The more likely scenario is the Bulls' GM has been overvaluing him, and now he's an expiring contract.

Chicago's management are a bunch of idiots. You need to keep that in mind.

Regardless, the Bulls got offers of 2 1sts for Caruso at the deadline and said no. So, yeah, they are overvaluing him but LA isn't even in the ballpark.

Reportedly the team wants to extend him btw.

Chicago can want what they want, but there is no world where Caruso, on an expiring, is worth more than what the Lakers can offer. Chicago may ultimately not want to trade him and re-sign him next offseason, but that doesnt mean he's worth a crap ton.

[coldfish]

If Caruso were some super valuable asset, he would have been dealt by now for a hefty price tag. The more likely scenario is the Bulls' GM has been overvaluing him, and now he's an expiring contract.

Chicago's management are a bunch of idiots. You need to keep that in mind.

Regardless, the Bulls got offers of 2 1sts for Caruso at the deadline and said no. So, yeah, they are overvaluing him but LA isn't even in the ballpark.

Reportedly the team wants to extend him btw.

Chicago can want what they want, but there is no world where Caruso, on an expiring, is worth more than what the Lakers can offer. Chicago may ultimately not want to trade him and re-sign him next offseason, but that doesnt mean he's worth a crap ton.

The only player that fans keep asking about on Chicago is Caruso and he comes up a lot. Fans on this board always try to convince themselves that they can get him for a song and a dance but their team can't. Not only is he a great on ball defender but he calls out plays and acts like a middle linebacker running the defense. On offense, he is an off ball guy. He is basically the perfect guy to put next to an elite, offensive 1 2 punch already in place. That isn't going to come cheap.

As I said, the Bulls management team is a bunch of idiots. No argument there. That said, if the Bulls were actually serious about trading Caruso as part of a rebuild they would get much better offers than LAL's dross. LA has nothing to trade.

[Karmaloop]

As I said, the Bulls management team is a bunch of idiots. No argument there. That said, if the Bulls were actually serious about trading Caruso as part of a rebuild they would get much better offers than LAL's dross. LA has nothing to trade.

What exactly do you think Caruso on an expiring contract is worth?

[coldfish]

As I said, the Bulls management team is a bunch of idiots. No argument there. That said, if the Bulls were actually serious about trading Caruso as part of a rebuild they would get much better offers than LAL's dross. LA has nothing to trade.

What exactly do you think Caruso on an expiring contract is worth?

Maybe a protected first and salary relief?

[Colbinii]

As I said, the Bulls management team is a bunch of idiots. No argument there. That said, if the Bulls were actually serious about trading Caruso as part of a rebuild they would get much better offers than LAL's dross. LA has nothing to trade.

What exactly do you think Caruso on an expiring contract is worth?

Maybe a protected first and salary relief?

Salary relief as in? Eating who?

[coldfish]

What exactly do you think Caruso on an expiring contract is worth?

Maybe a protected first and salary relief?

Salary relief as in? Eating who?

Capspace. Like, either a team under the cap or a guy with a non guaranteed deal. There is a lot of that floating around.

Regardless, if you think the Bulls would trade Caruso for that think again. The above was just my opinion on his trade value. The real Bulls have no intention on giving Caruso away. As I said above, they want to extend him and keep him around in a mad effort to keep putting out 40 win teams.