Yankees sign Mark Loretta?

VinnyTheMick · Post #1 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:07 pm

Olney just said it on Mike & Mike in the Morning.....

Does this mean Betimet will be part of the Santana trade?

Pharmcat · Post #2 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:11 pm

VinnyTheMick wrote:Olney just said it on Mike & Mike in the Morning.....

Does this mean Betimet will be part of the Santana trade?

cano?

VinnyTheMick · Post #3 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

cano?

I'd like to not even think about that....

VinnyTheMick · Post #4 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:45 pm

12 pitchers + 9 starters (8 field + 1 DH) = 21

4 bench spots left (we'll assume that the DH is either Matsui or Damon)

Possibles:

Molina
Duncan
Betemit
Mientkiewicz (assuming in this scenario Giambi is at 1B, just as a hypothetical)

So, the Yankees either need to shed a pitcher to have another backup IF

or they are not going to bring back Minky and slide Loretta in his place

or they are going to trade Duncan/Betemit

34Celtic · Post #5 » by **34Celtic** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:58 pm

Hopefully this means Betemit is out the door.

VinnyTheMick · Post #6 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:09 pm

I like Betemit but if he needs to be part of the Santana deal, so be it.

but make no mistake about it, Betemit >>>> Loretta.

34Celtic · Post #7 » by **34Celtic** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:24 pm

VinnyTheMick wrote:I like Betemit but if he needs to be part of the Santana deal, so be it.

but make no mistake about it, Betemit >>>> Loretta.

If Minnesota thinks they are getting a quality every day player in Bettimet shame on them, fine with me...let them make that mistake

Post #8 » by **sully00** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:51 pm

Loretta can play all 4 infield positions in a pinch as well as hit. You have to have somebody to back up 2nd and short and Bettemit can't do that. That also makes 3 guys who can play first in varying degrees as well the teams desire to get Posada some games over there. I think that means Mientkiewicz is gone.

Slamm Goodbody · Post #9 » by **Slamm Goodbody** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:58 pm

sully00 wrote:Loretta can play all 4 infield positions in a pinch as well as hit. You have to have somebody to back up 2nd and short and Bettemit can't do that. That also makes 3 guys who can play first in varying degrees as well the teams desire to get Posada some games over there. I think that means Mientkiewicz is gone.

Betemit plays short, but you're right about 2B. We'll see what develops. This certainly seems like a precursor for a bigger transaction. Loretta probably could have found a spot on a major league roster where he'd see the field more often, so maybe something's brewing...

cmaff051 · Post #10 » by **cmaff051** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:31 pm

Has this been reported anywhere other than by Buster? I mean, I trust Buster, but it would be nice if he wrote a news article about this on ESPN.com

Post #11 » by **sully00** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:34 pm

Look at it this way the Betemit we had last year can't play in the middle of the infield, I know they told him to lose weight and get in shape but it has to happen it isn't a given.

Loretta is a pro, a better hitter, while not the same kind of pop he will surprise you, and a great club house guy chasing a ring. Loretta is older than rocks but if I have to count on someone to play for 20-30 games he is the guy I would want. He can also sacrifice which, while ridiculous, is an issue with this ball club, an element that will be back under Girardi I expect.

Jitpal · Post #12 » by **Jitpal** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:36 pm

I think Loretta would make a good utility infielder. I would imagine that Betemit and Gonzalez could be part of a deal for Johan. The Twins have no SS and their 3B is Nick Punto. -Jitpal

Slamm Goodbody · Post #13 » by **Slamm Goodbody** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:38 pm

^ I've got no love for either of those two. If the Twins are really interested, this is way better for us than some of the other names we've tossed around.

ItsaVC3 · Post #14 » by **ItsaVC3** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:56 pm

i say we sign him cause it will be easier to trade for johan
NYY get Johan
Twins get melky Ian betemit and a Austin Jackson

VinnyTheMick · Post #15 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:17 pm

cmaff051 wrote:Has this been reported anywhere other than by Buster? I mean, I trust Buster, but it would be nice if he wrote a news article about this on ESPN.com

However, the Rockies don't like their chances, believing he will end up with the Yankees. While that deal is close, Loretta has made it known how much he likes the Rockies and would prefer to see how their second base situation plays out before signing with the Yankees.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_7595096

SugeKnight718 · Post #16 » by **SugeKnight718** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:18 pm

If you guys think Wilson Betemit is the missing piece in getting Johan in pinstripes, you guys got another thing coming. First of all, Loretta is NOT official, he's just a player, according to Olney, that the Yankees wanted since last year.

VinnyTheMick · Post #17 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:18 pm

SugeKnight718 wrote:If you guys think Wilson Betemit is the missing piece in getting Johan in pinstripes, you guys got another thing coming. First of all, Loretta is NOT official, he's just a player, according to Olney, that the Yankees wanted since last year.

Loretta isn't official but the deal is close, close enough that the Rockies have already figured him as gone....

& no one is saying "Wilson is the missing piece!" but it is becoming clear that if Johan is moved it will be for a multitude of players. Adding Wilson only helps.

Post #18 » by **sully00** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:33 pm

The only impact that Loretta has on a Santana deal is if Cano is going to Minnesota, you can't really think that Bettimet would be part of a Santana deal.

theknicks414 · Post #19 » by **theknicks414** » Sat Dec 1, 2007 2:15 am

I can def see Minny wanting Betemit. a cheap, cost controlled everyday player who can play an infield position for them next year.

VinnyTheMick · Post #20 » by **VinnyTheMick** » Sat Dec 1, 2007 3:31 pm

sully00 wrote:The only impact that Loretta has on a Santana deal is if Cano is going to Minnesota, you can't really think that Bettimet would be part of a Santana deal.

There is no way on EARTH Cano goes.