2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27

[Bernman]

Getting a good player now would make our future brighter.

That's a virtual oxymoron. It's typically a trade-off. You're trying to have it both ways.

Holding on to late 1st round picks can be a big mistake.

How does the 2031 1st project to a late 1st in the post or ancient Giannis yrs, where you even want to hold onto his old running mates, and when we've conceded all our (higher) 1sts in the lead-up? The realistic projection is the opposite. Again, I think you're just trying to have it both ways. If you want to sell out everything for the max win now, you're in all likelihood gonna lose later.

Not that I even agree w/ your statement in a vacuum, if that was the situation. Those guys are on cheap, long-term contracts, which we can use. In '17 3 out of the last 4 picks were Derrick White, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart. Jarrett Allen & Anunoby were in the 20's. You can get good players. I see plenty of legit prospects projected around late 1st in this draft.

[ShootingtheJ]

Getting a good player now would make our future brighter.

That's a virtual oxymoron. It's typical a trade-off. You're trying to have it both ways.

Holding on to late 1st round picks can be a big mistake.

How does the 2031 1st project to a late 1st in the post or ancient Giannis yrs, where you even want to hold onto his old running mates, and when we've conceded all our (higher) 1sts in the lead-up? The realistic projection is the opposite. Again, I think you're just trying to have it both ways. If you want to sell out everything for the max win now, you're in all likelihood gonna lose later.

Not that I even agree w/ your statement in a vacuum, if that was the situation. Those guys are on cheap, long-term contracts, which we can use. In '17 3 out of the last 4 picks were Derrick White, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart. Jarrett Allen & Anunoby were in the 20's. You can get good players. I see plenty of legit prospects projected around late 1st in this draft.

There's also worthwhile players to get in the 2nd round, and they're cheaper.

Selling out for now can give you more to rebuild with later. Adding a quality young player to our core extends the window.

[drone3]

If Beauchamp is going to do anything meaningful it's probably going to be this year. The pressures on, I would wait and see if he can setup before trading him

[msiris]

If Beauchamp is going to do anything meaningful it's probably going to be this year. The pressures on, I would wait and see if he can setup before trading him

I don't see it happening. Hanles are very suspect and on D seems lost alot.

[Wonka]

I’m starting to get Daron Holmes related tunnel vision thanks to you guys. He’s our guy if he’s still there. Love everything ive seen and heard about him. Could see him playing himself out of our range, though.

[Baddy Chuck]

He's a mega project but man Justin Edwards kinda screams out as a "buy a second and pray" guy (probably as a two way). Came into Kentucky as the #3 prospect do it all, athlete wing and really didn't impress. One thing that stands out to me is the seemingly amount of "bad weight" he put on at Kentucky. He went there a 180-190lb lean dude coming out of high school and entered the combine a 210 kinda doughed out dude who tested miserably. I wonder if getting him on an NBA regime could help his body find the right spot to be to regain some of his athletic form which would go a long way in him becoming a pretty serviceable NBA prospect.

[Ron Swanson]

I question Holmes as a guy who's able to fit the role we'd need of him with scaled down usage. The gradual shooting improvement is nice, but he's not a guy with either great Center size (7'1 wingspan and 230 lbs.) nor can he really guard up or down a position. Despite the good block numbers, he's not a very disciplined defender and tends to kinda launch his body into guys when he contests. I think he'd be a great spark plug 6th man if you're moving Bobby, but outside of that, he's not a guy I'd really consider until our pick at 33.

[ReasonablySober]

I question Holmes as a guy who's able to fit the role we'd need of him with scaled down usage. The gradual shooting improvement is nice, but he's not a guy with either great Center size (7'1 wingspan and 230 lbs.) nor can he really guard up or down a position. Despite the good block numbers, he's not a very disciplined defender and tends to kinda launch his body into guys when he contests. I think he'd be a great spark plug 6th man if you're moving Bobby, but outside of that, he's not a guy I'd really consider until our pick at 33.

If he's good enough to replace Bobby, he'll probably be way the hell gone by the time 23 rolls around anyway.

[Badgerlander]

I saw faster Horford and thought we were talking Ighodaro.

Holmes looked slow and mechanical against arizona. Long but not real athletic, not a gym rat. He was the man on Dayton so he does have a diverse skillset base which makes me think he could be bobby esqe with usage. Not sure thats the direction to lean these days though.

[Matches Malone]

How does everyone feel about Furphy? I'm not quite sure what to make of him, but seems like he could be a solid developmental/future pick if he's still available. Doubt he would play a lot year one and needs to get on the AJ Green lifting routine.

[Frank Nova]

How does everyone feel about Furphy? I'm not quite sure what to make of him, but seems like he could be a solid developmental/future pick if he's still available. Doubt he would play a lot year one and needs to get on the AJ Green lifting routine.

I like him a good bit. I think he’s a good developmental player with his size, length and scoring ability.

[Brewhoopfan]

It's Kel'el Ware or trade the pick for me. He's the only player I see near the Bucks range with the size/athleticism/defense combo who is not a complete project offensively. IE - I think he could contribute this year.

[ReasonablySober]

ESPN's high and low end for the top 14 prospects in this class.

Zaccharie Risacher, SF, Bourg (France)
High end: Khris Middleton with more defense
Low end: Trey Murphy III

Alex Sarr, PF/C, Perth (Australia)
High end: Jaren Jackson Jr.
Low end: Nic Claxton

Donovan Clingan, C, UConn
High end: Rudy Gobert and late-career Brook Lopez
Low end: Walker Kessler

Reed Sheppard, PG/SG, Kentucky
High end: Steve Nash
Low end: Payton Pritchard

Matas Buzelis, SF/PF, G League Ignite
High end: Chandler Parsons
Low end: Kyle Anderson

Stephon Castle, PG/SG, UConn
High end: Andre Iguodala (Golden State version)
Low end: Justise Winslow

Rob Dillingham, PG, Kentucky
High end: Darius Garland
Low end: Bones Hyland

Dalton Knecht, SF, Tennessee
High end: Bojan Bogdanovic
Low end: Max Strus

Nikola Topic, PG, Mega MIS (Adriatic League)
High end: Josh Giddey
Low end: Tomas Satoransky

Tidjane Salaun, PF, Cholet (France)
High end: Jerami Grant and Kyle Kuzma
Low end: Maurice Harkless

Ron Holland, SF, G League Ignite
High end: RJ Barrett
Low end: Josh Jackson

Cody Williams, SG/SF, Colorado
High end: Otto Porter Jr.
Low end: Troy Brown Jr.

Devin Carter, PG/SG, Providence
High end: Marcus Smart
Low end: De'Anthony Melton

Ja'Kobe Walter, SG/SF, Baylor
High end: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Low end: Gary Trent Jr.

Yikes.

[Ron Swanson]

It's definitely not a strong lottery class but good god, those are some of the worst and laziest player comps I've ever seen lol.

[msiris]

It's Kel'el Ware or trade the pick for me. He's the only player I see near the Bucks range with the size/athleticism/defense combo who is not a complete project offensively. IE - I think he could contribute this year.

100% sure he will be gone since he has too much upside to pass on.

[emunney]

It's definitely not a strong lottery class but good god, those are some of the worst and laziest player comps I've ever seen lol.

On some of them, I actually prefer the low-end player to the high-end one.

[RogerMurdock]

It's definitely not a strong lottery class but good god, those are some of the worst and laziest player comps I've ever seen lol.

Hey, they did have a non-white guy comp for one of the white guys.

[msiris]

I question Holmes as a guy who's able to fit the role we'd need of him with scaled down usage. The gradual shooting improvement is nice, but he's not a guy with either great Center size (7'1 wingspan and 230 lbs.) nor can he really guard up or down a position. Despite the good block numbers, he's not a very disciplined defender and tends to kinda launch his body into guys when he contests. I think he'd be a great spark plug 6th man if you're moving Bobby, but outside of that, he's not a guy I'd really consider until our pick at 33.

If he's good enough to replace Bobby, he'll probably be way the hell gone by the time 23 rolls around anyway.

Your looking at it all wrong. Bobby was a 22nd pick overall pick.

[ReasonablySober]

I question Holmes as a guy who's able to fit the role we'd need of him with scaled down usage. The gradual shooting improvement is nice, but he's not a guy with either great Center size (7'1 wingspan and 230 lbs.) nor can he really guard up or down a position. Despite the good block numbers, he's not a very disciplined defender and tends to kinda launch his body into guys when he contests. I think he'd be a great spark plug 6th man if you're moving Bobby, but outside of that, he's not a guy I'd really consider until our pick at 33.

If he's good enough to replace Bobby, he'll probably be way the hell gone by the time 23 rolls around anyway.

Your looking at it all wrong. Bobby was a 22nd pick overall pick.

No I'm not. If you're looking at Holmes and calling him a better Bobby Portis or more athletic Al Horford, a better Bobby Portis or more athletic Al Horford is going to go high in this draft.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know where people are getting the Al Horford stuff from. Horford would have went #1 overall if not for two absolutely generational prospects in Oden and KD. There's no comparison between him and Holmes as prospects.