Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[mpharris36]

Love JJJ

he's not a great rebounder but if you put him in lineups with Randle/Hart ect....he is a great rim protector and can space the floor a bit on offense.

[Knicksfan1992]

Has there been any talk about bringing back Precious? If not, I really hope they focus on getting a way better 3rd string C. We desperately need one

No talk about it but, I have a theory that the Mitch trade talks are the pathway to the Knicks keeping Precious to be backup C.

Trade Mitch for wing help
Develop Precious into backup big for cheaper than Mitch
Profit?

[Fury]

Love JJJ

he's not a great rebounder but if you put him in lineups with Randle/Hart ect....he is a great rim protector and can space the floor a bit on offense.

Yep, he'd be a great fit cause of that. And his shooting will clear it out for guys like Hart, Randle, and even in lineups with Hartenstein to clean up the glass with less resistance.

I don't think this is realistic right now though. Maybe if he had a bigger contract.

[Knicksfan1992]

I, personally, am a little lower on JJJ than most seem to be.

On the surface he should be a great player. He's been an efficient scorer basically his whole career. He grades out as an awesome rim protector and is good in switches too.

But, something is fishy to me every time I watch him. Last year was his first year over 30 mpg. Red flag IMO. It just seems like he's got some Towns in him where he can't help but pick up dumb fouls that keep him off the floor. That kinda thing usually gets exposed in the playoffs. Speaking of the playoffs, his numbers are abysmal and his foul rate is higher over a decent enough sample size of 23 games... Also, there's no physical reason JJJ should not be a 5 in today's NBA. Why does Memphis continuously feel the need to pair him with an anchor big? If he's landlocked at the 4, I think that hurts his value significantly.

I also don't love bigs that can't rebound. In a league that is slowly reverting back to crashing the offensive glass, you simply cannot survive playing a guy at the 5 for long stretches who has the rebounding rate of a guard. This came to a head with Team USA where Kerr felt the need to play Hart at basically Center because they could not grab a rebound with JJJ on the floor...This is usually something that doesn't really improve with time either. Generally, you are either a good rebounder or your not.

To me he's the Mikal Bridges of bigs. Once you increase his responsibility, his value seems to diminish greatly. His efficiency fell off a cliff this year without Ja.

While the Knicks have the sort of personnel that can accommodate JJJ's weaknesses, I still prefer Randle I think. Especially since JJJ would almost assuredly be coming in in replacement of him. He also is going to command a massive pay bump in his next deal. I'd be weary of giving a guy who doesn't really create his own offense well or for others that kind of deal if he can't anchor your defense as a 5.

Just my 2 cents on JJJ

[Luv those Knicks]

Has there been any talk about bringing back Precious? If not, I really hope they focus on getting a way better 3rd string C. We desperately need one

No talk about it but, I have a theory that the Mitch trade talks are the pathway to the Knicks keeping Precious to be backup C.

Trade Mitch for wing help
Develop Precious into backup big for cheaper than Mitch
Profit?

I think picking up Precious QO is a given, but he could become trade fodder when they're able to trade him. I'm not sure if the QO puts a delay on trades, but Leon loves to deal, and Precious is a guy who could be used to make salaries work, as well as depth. Picking up his QO makes sense for 2 reasons.

unless I'm missing something.

[spree2kawhi]

I, personally, am a little lower on JJJ than most seem to be.

On the surface he should be a great player. He's been an efficient scorer basically his whole career. He grades out as an awesome rim protector and is good in switches too.

But, something is fishy to me every time I watch him. Last year was his first year over 30 mpg. Red flag IMO. It just seems like he's got some Towns in him where he can't help but pick up dumb fouls that keep him off the floor. That kinda thing usually gets exposed in the playoffs. Speaking of the playoffs, his numbers are abysmal and his foul rate is higher over a decent enough sample size of 23 games... Also, there's no physical reason JJJ should not be a 5 in today's NBA. Why does Memphis continuously feel the need to pair him with an anchor big? If he's landlocked at the 4, I think that hurts his value significantly.

I also don't love bigs that can't rebound. In a league that is slowly reverting back to crashing the offensive glass, you simply cannot survive playing a guy at the 5 for long stretches who has the rebounding rate of a guard. This came to a head with Team USA where Kerr felt the need to play Hart at basically Center because they could not grab a rebound with JJJ on the floor...This is usually something that doesn't really improve with time either. Generally, you are either a good rebounder or your not.

To me he's the Mikal Bridges of bigs. Once you increase his responsibility, his value seems to diminish greatly. His efficiency fell off a cliff this year without Ja.

While the Knicks have the sort of personnel that can accommodate JJJ's weaknesses, I still prefer Randle I think. Especially since JJJ would almost assuredly be coming in in replacement of him. He also is going to command a massive pay bump in his next deal. I'd be weary of giving a guy who doesn't really create his own offense well or for others that kind of deal if he can't anchor your defense as a 5.

Just my 2 cents on JJJ

What about Evan Mobley?

[HopelessKnick]

Finals need to start....we are throwing around the currently most unattainable bigs one can think of....Giannis, JJJ, Mobley etc.

As for a Stretch 4/5....I think we'd have to go the Minny route and draft one (Naz Reid). I mean we had one in Portis but let him go...I actually think he would do fine with the current group. A big that can shoot, rebound and defend at a solid level is extremely rare...you often times only have one or two of the 3 things.

If Precious could only learn to knock down 3s at 35% and take 5-6 a game.... he'd be really really great. I mean is it really that difficult? I feel like if he would commit to shoot 1000 3s a day throughout the summer he'd surely be able to know some down right?

[HopelessKnick]

It is possible that he won't ask out. But if he does THIS is the type of player you give a big package for. In almost no past superstar trade has a guy like Randle been included. Randle is a 25/10/5 guy who is under 30. That asking price you posed above is not what the price would be. It would be closer to what I proposed.

The asking price may have been a little too high but didn't you yourself suggest that Randle would be involved in your original proposal?

Absolutely I did. However The main point is WITH Randle in the trade it won't also include the excessive amount of additional assets you posted above.

I get where you are coming from and I concede you may be right. However keep in mind we are likely talking the most or second most valuable player in the league at 29 years of age. Anyways it is kinda moot anyways...

[RHODEY]

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[KnixinSix]

The asking price may have been a little too high but didn't you yourself suggest that Randle would be involved in your original proposal?

Absolutely I did. However The main point is WITH Randle in the trade it won't also include the excessive amount of additional assets you posted above.

I get where you are coming from and I concede you may be right. However keep in mind we are likely talking the most or second most valuable player in the league at 29 years of age. Anyways it is kinda moot anyways...

The hope is one of those strong fitting players come available and we are aggressive in acquiring them. Our personal checklists of who we like/don't like differ but I hope whoever it is isnt too old or too injury prone.

Obviously Giannis is probably the best guy that has a chance (miniscule or not) to pry free.

[spree2kawhi]

Finals need to start....we are throwing around the currently most unattainable bigs one can think of....Giannis, JJJ, Mobley etc.

As for a Stretch 4/5....I think we'd have to go the Minny route and draft one (Naz Reid). I mean we had one in Portis but let him go...I actually think he would do fine with the current group. A big that can shoot, rebound and defend at a solid level is extremely rare...you often times only have one or two of the 3 things.

If Precious could only learn to knock down 3s at 35% and take 5-6 a game.... he'd be really really great. I mean is it really that difficult? I feel like if he would commit to shoot 1000 3s a day throughout the summer he'd surely be able to know some down right?

This just isn’t how it works. The answer is,”Yes, it’s really that difficult.“

[KnixinSix]

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If Mitch is on the block give the Cavs Mitchell and McBride and Bogdanovic and 3 picks for Donovan Mitchell. ReSign IHart, Qualify Achiwa and go to war next year.

Short of that I'd take Jayde Ivey for a heavier pick type package along with McBride.

[KnixinSix]

Maybe not one of the top rumor guys but FWIW

Sam Amico
@AmicoHoops

Report: Lakers, Knicks, Heat Interested In Trading For Jazz Star Lauri Markkanen

IF this was somehow true do you keep Randle or trade him in a seperate type package?

I would imagine depending on how aggressive we want to be we could beat Heat or Lakers in a package for him.

[KnixinSix]

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Taking these latest Rumors and playing in the sandbox


Mitch Robinson for 9th pick and Luke Kennard
McBride and Bogdonavic and 9th pick, 24th, 25th pick for Markenen (Utah starts bigtime rebuild)

[sol537]

Markenen? 6th man off the bench? Otherwise, don’t see the fit unless Randle goes out elsewhere…

[WargamesX]

Can we consolidate the rumors to the ones reported by actual reporters.

I think them wanting to move the pick is a legit rumor reported by a reporter, plus them wanting everyone to return, and that teams would considering to poach Knicks players if they can’t get there first or second option

[Riot Randolph]

Finals need to start....we are throwing around the currently most unattainable bigs one can think of....Giannis, JJJ, Mobley etc.

As for a Stretch 4/5....I think we'd have to go the Minny route and draft one (Naz Reid). I mean we had one in Portis but let him go...I actually think he would do fine with the current group. A big that can shoot, rebound and defend at a solid level is extremely rare...you often times only have one or two of the 3 things.

If Precious could only learn to knock down 3s at 35% and take 5-6 a game.... he'd be really really great. I mean is it really that difficult? I feel like if he would commit to shoot 1000 3s a day throughout the summer he'd surely be able to know some down right?

This just isn’t how it works. The answer is,”Yes, it’s really that difficult.“

Brooke Lopez enters the conversation

[3toheadmelo]

Love JJJ

I always trade Randle for JJJ in 2K...

I did it in BAF

[lloydj]

Knicks Trade: Mitchell Robinson ($15,681,81, $14,318,182, $12,954,546)

OKC Trade: Josh Giddy ($6,587,040, $8,352,367, $11,142,057)
Ousmane Dieng or Jaylin Williams

Brunson/Deuce/Giddy/?
Devi/Hart/Burke/Giddy
O.G./Hart/Giddy/Burke
Randall/O.G./Hart/Precious
IHart/ ? /Precious/Sims

[douggood]

Finals need to start....we are throwing around the currently most unattainable bigs one can think of....Giannis, JJJ, Mobley etc.

As for a Stretch 4/5....I think we'd have to go the Minny route and draft one (Naz Reid). I mean we had one in Portis but let him go...I actually think he would do fine with the current group. A big that can shoot, rebound and defend at a solid level is extremely rare...you often times only have one or two of the 3 things.

If Precious could only learn to knock down 3s at 35% and take 5-6 a game.... he'd be really really great. I mean is it really that difficult? I feel like if he would commit to shoot 1000 3s a day throughout the summer he'd surely be able to know some down right?

This just isn’t how it works. The answer is,”Yes, it’s really that difficult.“

Brooke Lopez enters the conversation

lopez was always a good ft% shooter, he probably always had the 3pt in his arsenal, new coach, league trends etc unlocked his launching it.