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Swish77 wrote:The Corey's wrote:Larry_Russell wrote:
Remember this, so when Boston smokes this team Dallas fans cant cry "Luka was hurt" wah wah wah
Meanwhile the Celtics are legitimately hurt and no one mentioned that.
KP would of been the second best player on all 3 teams the Celtics destroyed.
VS teams who were hurt as well? idk what your trying to get at here.
itrsteve wrote:Bob8 wrote:itrsteve wrote:
As a Boston fan, I don't believe either side is getting smoked. This is in fact the finals and there's a lot of strange hot takes in this thread.
If you read closely, vast majority of Mavs fans are just trying to say that Mavs have a chance of winning, while majority of Celtics fans are offended by that chance. Saying that Mavs fans are delusional in believing their team can win.
If you read closely, you're pretty much conversing with 4 Boston fans that are flooding this thread. I think you'll find that most of us are level-headed and believe there's a decent matchup coming.
BeiBeau wrote:itrsteve wrote:Bob8 wrote:
If you read closely, vast majority of Mavs fans are just trying to say that Mavs have a chance of winning, while majority of Celtics fans are offended by that chance. Saying that Mavs fans are delusional in believing their team can win.
If you read closely, you're pretty much conversing with 4 Boston fans that are flooding this thread. I think you'll find that most of us are level-headed and believe there's a decent matchup coming.
It’s WAY more than 4. We know that there are good cetlics fans. But there is a reason Celtics fans are by far one of the 3 worst fan bases in all of sports. I’d rather have a conversation with Cowboys fans.
itrsteve wrote:Bob8 wrote:itrsteve wrote:
As a Boston fan, I don't believe either side is getting smoked. This is in fact the finals and there's a lot of strange hot takes in this thread.
If you read closely, vast majority of Mavs fans are just trying to say that Mavs have a chance of winning, while majority of Celtics fans are offended by that chance. Saying that Mavs fans are delusional in believing their team can win.
If you read closely, you're pretty much conversing with 4 Boston fans that are flooding this thread. I think you'll find that most of us are level-headed and believe there's a decent matchup coming.
itrsteve wrote:Bob8 wrote:itrsteve wrote:
As a Boston fan, I don't believe either side is getting smoked. This is in fact the finals and there's a lot of strange hot takes in this thread.
If you read closely, vast majority of Mavs fans are just trying to say that Mavs have a chance of winning, while majority of Celtics fans are offended by that chance. Saying that Mavs fans are delusional in believing their team can win.
If you read closely, you're pretty much conversing with 4 Boston fans that are flooding this thread. I think you'll find that most of us are level-headed and believe there's a decent matchup coming.
ajones9219 wrote:I think it's funny that Mavs fans are getting upset about a small number of Celtics fans predicting Celtics in 5 when 13 people voted predicting a Mavs sweep
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
TheBullsDynasty wrote:165bows wrote:CoP wrote:One of the main arguments for Dallas is that they have beaten harder competition in the playoffs. Meanwhile, even though the Celtics have only lost 2 games these playoffs, they did lose one game each to teams missing their star player, and had closer-than-expected wins against several playoff opponents without their star players. Those two circumstances could lead one to reasonably think that the Mavs will be a serious challenge for the Celtics.
That's basically the argument.
I actually think it will be a hard fought series but just seems a tad hyperbolic by a squad of Mavs fans who don't seem to take into account what a dog fight is coming up.
Celtics have been prepping for 12 months straight for the finals. LAC was hurt and flames out in the first round every year, Okc is super young, thin up front and didn't even try to load up for the playoffs. Minny was a tough team but had a lot of flaws and already just won their championship beating Denver.
Boston was the best regular season team since the 17-18 Warriors, just went 12-2 through the playoffs without a starter and haven't even played their best ball of the playoffs yet.
You could argue that OKC was very young or that Minnesota had many flaws in hindsight, but at the time, both teams were seen as favorites against the Mavericks. If you look back at the comments from Minnesota fans before game 1, you'll see they were extremely confident the Wolves would easily defeat the Mavs after already beating Denver, similar to what many Celtics fans are saying in this thread.
On the other hand, Mavs fans might argue that Boston faced weak competition, trailed against the Cavs and Pacers without their stars and had to comeback to win games, allowed Nembhard to dominate their "out of world" defense, suggesting that, maybe, the Celtics aren't playing that great of a basketball in the playoffs even though their record is 12-2. But then you'd say that the Celtics played down to their opponents, were without KP, and haven't yet played their best basketball.
See what I'm doing? You can spin anything in any direction depending on how you want to see something. None of this is actual basketball analysis and it doesn't go beyond just a silly pissing contest. We have 3 more days until the 1st game. We'll see what happens then, and there will be plenty of counters even after that.
Bob8 wrote:ajones9219 wrote:I think it's funny that Mavs fans are getting upset about a small number of Celtics fans predicting Celtics in 5 when 13 people voted predicting a Mavs sweep
Nobody would be upset, if you just made prediction in poll.
Larry_Russell wrote:Dundalis wrote:The Corey's wrote:Some of y'all actually think Luka gonna single handedly win this.
Luka already averaging 35 a game against the Celtics and Dallas still losing bad.
It's interesting that Luka is still gonna get his but Brown and Tatum who have destroyed Dallas are gonna fall back to earth.
Stopping Luka isn't the priority. 35 a game isn't gonna be enough.
Keep thinking Dallas is the same team they were earlier in the season. Every other team the Mavs have played thought the same thing.
you are the same team.
Since the BIG TRADE
Net Rating
Dallas +5.4
Boston +15.4
Offensive rating
Dallas 115.9
Boston 125.7
Defensive rating
Dallas 110.5
Boston 110.2
Boston has the better
Assist%, Ast/TO, Assist ration, Def Reb%, Off Reb %, Reb%, Fewer Turnovers, Higher efg%, ts%,
Stop pretending like
PJ Washington bringin 11.5/6/1.5
And Lively bringing 8/7/1
And DJJ bringing 10/3/1
is making this big impact, they are not even starters, any of them, on the celtics
Dwight 18/4/4.5
Jrue 12.7/5.6/4.6
Horforc 10/7.3/2
And this is not including out other 20ppg scorer in KP.
Oh and before you give me the Kyrie and Doncic pairing so so great bull
PLayoff Kyrie and Doncic
51.6ppg
13.5rpg,
14apg
2.8spg
0.9bpg
Tatum and Brown playoffs
51 ppg
16.5rpg
8.5apg
2.2spg,
1.3bpg
While also playing lock down defense.
Bob8 wrote:CoP wrote:Bob8 wrote:I said Chet is better rim protector.
I'm not saying that Celtics are not better 3-pts shooting team, I'm saying that difference is not that big, that only 3-pts shooting could deside the series.
That's not as clear cut as you're making it out to be.
- Chet had 2.3bpg vs. 1.9 for Kristaps, so Chet was better there
- KP allowed a FG% of 57.4% on shots <5 ft vs. 58.1% for Chet, so KP was better there (link)
- If you look at the 5-9ft range, KP allowed a FG% of 39.4% vs. 41.5% for Chet, so again KP was better there
Determining whether KP is an elite rim protector today based off a playoff series three years ago is silly.
I might be wrong, but I honestly don't believe KP, especially after being 6 weeks out, can protect the rim or paint better than Chet and Gobert.
The Corey's wrote:BeiBeau wrote:itrsteve wrote:
If you read closely, you're pretty much conversing with 4 Boston fans that are flooding this thread. I think you'll find that most of us are level-headed and believe there's a decent matchup coming.
It’s WAY more than 4. We know that there are good cetlics fans. But there is a reason Celtics fans are by far one of the 3 worst fan bases in all of sports. I’d rather have a conversation with Cowboys fans.
Where did all this Dallas energy come from? My takes are my own. I scroll by a bunch of Dallas takes I don't agree with but I don't single anyone out.
I can't speak for any other Celtic fan but for me I'm responding to anyone in my notifications only.
I don't think my Celtics in 5 take is so crazy that it puts me on a level of top 3 worst fan bases ever
The Corey's wrote:Celtics fans and Celtics being compared to the cowboys.
That's wild. Celtics have a title, bout to grab their second one, up somewhere around 8 ECF or so since the last time the cowboys won a Superbowl.
People in Texas are projecting I think.
This series needs to hurry up.
My friend, your work to reach that Top 3 has been and is impeccable... don't be humble, one more week without games and you become a legend,... I will think of you during the gamesThe Corey's wrote:BeiBeau wrote:itrsteve wrote:
If you read closely, you're pretty much conversing with 4 Boston fans that are flooding this thread. I think you'll find that most of us are level-headed and believe there's a decent matchup coming.
It’s WAY more than 4. We know that there are good cetlics fans. But there is a reason Celtics fans are by far one of the 3 worst fan bases in all of sports. I’d rather have a conversation with Cowboys fans.
Where did all this Dallas energy come from? My takes are my own. I scroll by a bunch of Dallas takes I don't agree with but I don't single anyone out.
I can't speak for any other Celtic fan but for me I'm responding to anyone in my notifications only.
I don't think my Celtics in 5 take is so crazy that it puts me on a level of top 3 worst fan bases ever
BeiBeau wrote:The Corey's wrote:BeiBeau wrote:
It’s WAY more than 4. We know that there are good cetlics fans. But there is a reason Celtics fans are by far one of the 3 worst fan bases in all of sports. I’d rather have a conversation with Cowboys fans.
Where did all this Dallas energy come from? My takes are my own. I scroll by a bunch of Dallas takes I don't agree with but I don't single anyone out.
I can't speak for any other Celtic fan but for me I'm responding to anyone in my notifications only.
I don't think my Celtics in 5 take is so crazy that it puts me on a level of top 3 worst fan bases ever
You specifically have been all over this thread. Youre insufferable, a homer, and are not here to talk about actual basketball.
When people say cetlics are a bad fan base you can act all high and mighty but you contributing to that stereotype
BeiBeau wrote:The Corey's wrote:Celtics fans and Celtics being compared to the cowboys.
That's wild. Celtics have a title, bout to grab their second one, up somewhere around 8 ECF or so since the last time the cowboys won a Superbowl.
People in Texas are projecting I think.
This series needs to hurry up.
Yup this is exactly why you’re worse than Cowboys fans.
The Celtics making ECF doesn’t make you any less terrible to have a basketball discussion with. Worst fan base ever
CoP wrote:Bob8 wrote:CoP wrote:That's not as clear cut as you're making it out to be.
- Chet had 2.3bpg vs. 1.9 for Kristaps, so Chet was better there
- KP allowed a FG% of 57.4% on shots <5 ft vs. 58.1% for Chet, so KP was better there (link)
- If you look at the 5-9ft range, KP allowed a FG% of 39.4% vs. 41.5% for Chet, so again KP was better there
Determining whether KP is an elite rim protector today based off a playoff series three years ago is silly.
I might be wrong, but I honestly don't believe KP, especially after being 6 weeks out, can protect the rim or paint better than Chet and Gobert.
As you've shown throughout this thread, your beliefs are based off KP's performance in a playoff series three years ago, which is ridiculous. During this season, KP's stats showed him to be an elite rim protector, which was something you dismissed a few posts ago.
According to your criteria, what would make for a good rim protector? I'm kind of confused, because you mentioned Gobert, and Minny allowed a ton of lobs with Gobert on the floor. The Mavericks shot 70% from <5ft in the conference finals. Do you think the Mavs will shoot higher than that in the Finals?
Sweet Serenity wrote:prejt wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Mavs in 6 or BOS in 7
Mavs aren't losing a game7, not with the clutch players they have. If the Cs are going to win, which they could, they'll have to blow the mavs out 4 times in less than 7 games.
Can we stop pretending like the Mavs are the Jordan Bulls or the KD Warriors ?