DaRon Holmes - Dayton

[SNPA]

Hoopshype doesn't have any of his workouts on their 2024 tracker, so unfortunately it's a bit hard to guess who may have given him the promise:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

Must be top half and maybe top ten. Why else would he shut it down? We can eliminate teams that are suspected of trading the pick. Sac would be a prime suspect otherwise.

My guess is it is Milwaukee. If your Intel says second round and you get a promise in the 20s why not take it? Philly could also make sense.

I routinely see him mocked in the 20’s. I’d think it’d need to be in the mid-low teens.

[BigGargamel]

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Hoopshype doesn't have any of his workouts on their 2024 tracker, so unfortunately it's a bit hard to guess who may have given him the promise:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

Must be top half and maybe top ten. Why else would he shut it down? We can eliminate teams that are suspected of trading the pick. Sac would be a prime suspect otherwise.

Not sure why it would have to be top 10 for him to shut things down. A first round guarantee should be enough. He'd basically be a nice fit for every single playoff team, so nailing down that promise would be impossible. Needless to say, he'll be gone by the time Denver picks. I was hoping for Holmes or Edey, but they might have to settle for Ware if they want a backup big, and I wouldn't be very happy about that one.

[JMAC3]

I think Pelicans make a ton of sense, they have said they wanted a stretch 5 and Holmes has started to show that ability. They pick 21st, which is a decent promise spot.

[165bows]

I think Pelicans make a ton of sense, they have said they wanted a stretch 5 and Holmes has started to show that ability. They pick 21st, which is a decent promise spot.

Yup, could actually see any of the Toronto/Cleveland/NO group at 19-21.

[SNPA]

I guess we’ll find out. Could be a perfect fit and/or agent-front office relationship thing. Otherwise, why would a guy shut it down unless the promising team is well above his general consensus range.

[JMAC3]

I guess we’ll find out. Could be a perfect fit and/or agent-front office relationship thing. Otherwise, why would a guy shut it down unless the promising team is well above his general consensus range.

Gets people talking about him..
Guarantees him a floor...
Really not a huge money difference between getting drafted 14th and 20th.

[Catchall]

Knicks have back-to-back picks in the 20s and could guarantee him rotation minutes.

[SNPA]

I guess we’ll find out. Could be a perfect fit and/or agent-front office relationship thing. Otherwise, why would a guy shut it down unless the promising team is well above his general consensus range.

Gets people talking about him..
Guarantees him a floor...
Really not a huge money difference between getting drafted 14th and 20th.

Guarantees him a floor is an interesting argument. I suppose it doesn’t stop teams above from drafting him even though he didn’t work out. Seems a little off though coming from a competitor, but he is probably following his agent’s advice.

If Sac drafts at 13 he would be in play. Monte likes older prospects and he solves a need.

[MemphisX]

Do not see the appeal at all.

[Hal14]

Knicks have back-to-back picks in the 20s and could guarantee him rotation minutes.

They can only do that if Hartenstein signs elsewhere. They might resign him, since he was so good for them and such a good fit.

Also, I would think that if a team is guaranteeing him rotation mins next season, it's a lottery team. I doubt that a team that just went to the 2nd round of the playoffs and was the 2 seed in their conference is gonna throw a kid right into their rotation right out of college (right from a mid major conference too)..

[Hal14]

Must be top half and maybe top ten. Why else would he shut it down? We can eliminate teams that are suspected of trading the pick. Sac would be a prime suspect otherwise.

My guess is it is Milwaukee. If your Intel says second round and you get a promise in the 20s why not take it? Philly could also make sense.

I routinely see him mocked in the 20’s. I’d think it’d need to be in the mid-low teens.

I've seen a couple of consensus boards (which aggregate tons of different boards/mocks including mainstream sites like ESPN, bleacher report, many others) the other day that had him in the 32-34 range.

This consensus board has Holmes at 36:
https://www.nbamockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024

So I could see that if he got a guarantee in the 20's then he might shut it down..if you keep working out for more teams, you could risk injury during one of those workouts too..

[Catchall]

Knicks have back-to-back picks in the 20s and could guarantee him rotation minutes.

They can only do that if Hartenstein signs elsewhere. They might resign him, since he was so good for them and such a good fit.

Also, I would think that if a team is guaranteeing him rotation mins next season, it's a lottery team. I doubt that a team that just went to the 2nd round of the playoffs and was the 2 seed in their conference is gonna throw a kid right into their rotation right out of college (right from a mid major conference too)..

Denver needs a backup big quite badly. Holmes might be as good as anyone at that salary. Knicks probably already know how likely they are to keep Hartenstein.

[Rafael122]

Canceling workouts from a guy projected to go in the bottom half of the first round - early second doesn't make sense unless you got a guarantee from a team in the lottery. Like if Denver promised him, they pick what...28th?

[Catchall]

Canceling workouts from a guy projected to go in the bottom half of the first round - early second doesn't make sense unless you got a guarantee from a team in the lottery. Like if Denver promised him, they pick what...28th?

If he’s not otherwise guaranteed to go 1st rd and Denver guarantees him a role at the 4/5, that might do it for him.

[Telfaire]

No team drafting at the 20s can gurantee a role to a player. They can guarantee him a contract, by way of promising to draft him at the 1st round. The rest is up to him, his health and his coach(es). Look at the fate of Chandler Hutchison, who also recieved a promise from the Bulls a couple of years ago.

[Myth]

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Not a fan of this. I want Portland to get him and they report who they try out, which makes it unlikely them

[EvanZ]

Something about Holmes’ game worries me. He’s a bit too wild. Maybe it was just an expanded role but he took so many wild shots and his touch around the rim is bad. He might end up like Precious Achiuwa which is probably ok for a pick in this draft.

[clyde21]

Canceling workouts from a guy projected to go in the bottom half of the first round - early second doesn't make sense unless you got a guarantee from a team in the lottery. Like if Denver promised him, they pick what...28th?

it's not just about how high of a pick but if the player/agent feel like it's a great spot with an easier path to get on the court they are fine being drafted a few lower spots

it's ALWAYS about landing a spot you feel raises your chances of securing that second contract...so if someone they feel good about at 35 vs someone they don't feel good about at 28 they'll take the 35 all day

[azcatz11]

Something about Holmes’ game worries me. He’s a bit too wild. Maybe it was just an expanded role but he took so many wild shots and his touch around the rim is bad. He might end up like Precious Achiuwa which is probably ok for a pick in this draft.

He screams like a good stats player on a horrible team. He's going to average 22 pts ppg someday on a team like the Hornets

[CoreyVillains]

Just got the chance to break down film with DaRon. One of the respectful dudes I’ve ever been around. Really was massively productive this year.

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