2024 NBA Draft Thread

[OxAndFox]

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I'm cautiously hopeful that this is coming from Monte.

It says in the ESPN mock draft profile "raising strong suspicions that he has secured a guarantee in the back part of the first round"

Don't think it's Monte, unless its a trade down, which would be great to get him and assets from the trade down.

From a Rotowire article a couple of days' ago.
"It now looks like Holmes will be drafted toward the back of the end of the first round, with teams like Washington, Minnesota, Utah, Denver and Boston positioned in that range."

he makes a whole of sense going in the back 3rd of the draft to any number of teams (us included if we traded back). I'm becoming quite enamored with George and Smith and hope one of them falls to us. If both do, Smith would be my pick

I mean it wouldn't be crazy to trade down and get both.

[FarBeyondDriven]

It says in the ESPN mock draft profile "raising strong suspicions that he has secured a guarantee in the back part of the first round"

Don't think it's Monte, unless its a trade down, which would be great to get him and assets from the trade down.

From a Rotowire article a couple of days' ago.
"It now looks like Holmes will be drafted toward the back of the end of the first round, with teams like Washington, Minnesota, Utah, Denver and Boston positioned in that range."

he makes a whole of sense going in the back 3rd of the draft to any number of teams (us included if we traded back). I'm becoming quite enamored with George and Smith and hope one of them falls to us. If both do, Smith would be my pick

I mean it wouldn't be crazy to trade down and get both.

yes it would because nobody besides the Knicks has two first round picks after our pick. Even if we got both the Knicks picks (#24 and #25) maybe one of the three players might still be there, likely Holmes II, but not two of them imo. Unless you're thinking we could move down slightly and take one of them and pick up an early 2nd and still get Holmes. I don't even want to entertain that because then I'll get my hopes up. But that's exactly the type of move we should be trying to do whether it's in hopes Holmes is there or not. If we could move back a little and get George and then pick up and early 2nd and get another good depth piece I'd be ecstatic.

[OGSactownballer]

Honestly being as this is a “flat” draft rather than one that has clear cut talent levels, I am all about trading back in a move to fill bench need if that is the best available option. If that means going later this year or a future pick I’m still fine as long as we add some bench depth in the process or ideally shed some salary.

[OxAndFox]

he makes a whole of sense going in the back 3rd of the draft to any number of teams (us included if we traded back). I'm becoming quite enamored with George and Smith and hope one of them falls to us. If both do, Smith would be my pick

I mean it wouldn't be crazy to trade down and get both.

yes it would because nobody besides the Knicks has two first round picks after our pick. Even if we got both the Knicks picks (#24 and #25) maybe one of the three players might still be there, likely Holmes II, but not two of them imo. Unless you're thinking we could move down slightly and take one of them and pick up an early 2nd and still get Holmes. I don't even want to entertain that because then I'll get my hopes up. But that's exactly the type of move we should be trying to do whether it's in hopes Holmes is there or not. If we could move back a little and get George and then pick up and early 2nd and get another good depth piece I'd be ecstatic.

Yeah you're right. Forgot the Pels had passed on the Lakers selection.
Would still be up for a trade down with the Knicks. Do the 13 for 24/25/38 and then 25 for 29/32.

Can then utilise #38/#45 for future picks or trade up for Bucks #33 who desperately need young talent on their roster.
Come away with #24/#29/#32/#33 would be great. There will be a shock player to fall right into that #24 region IMO.

I'm certainly not against what OGS suggests either with a trade down and out.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I mean it wouldn't be crazy to trade down and get both.

yes it would because nobody besides the Knicks has two first round picks after our pick. Even if we got both the Knicks picks (#24 and #25) maybe one of the three players might still be there, likely Holmes II, but not two of them imo. Unless you're thinking we could move down slightly and take one of them and pick up an early 2nd and still get Holmes. I don't even want to entertain that because then I'll get my hopes up. But that's exactly the type of move we should be trying to do whether it's in hopes Holmes is there or not. If we could move back a little and get George and then pick up and early 2nd and get another good depth piece I'd be ecstatic.

Yeah you're right. Forgot the Pels had passed on the Lakers selection.
Would still be up for a trade down with the Knicks. Do the 13 for 24/25/38 and then 25 for 29/32.

Can then utilise #38/#45 for future picks or trade up for Bucks #33 who desperately need young talent on their roster.
Come away with #24/#29/#32/#33 would be great. There will be a shock player to fall right into that #24 region IMO.

I'm certainly not against what OGS suggests either with a trade down and out.

you sound like me. I always want to trade back and pick up extra picks. It irritates me that NBA general managers don't move around like this with how bad they all seemingly are at drafting.

[OxAndFox]

Keeping on the draft theme. I have been harping on making sure the team gets length out of this draft and I continue that theme, that is if the FO does select in the first round. I think a while back I said just get someone over 6'4 or somewhere around there.

Just to put it out there. Players drafted by the Kings in the last 7 years that are still on the team. Thought 7 years is long enough to where they could sign an extension etc.

Players over 6'6
Keegan Murray

Players under 6'6
Davion Mitchell
De'Aaron Fox

Then I thought let's look at our nemesis. Those pesky Pelicans.
Players over 6'6
Dyson Daniels
Trey Murphy
Zion Williamson

Players under 6'6
Jordan Hawkins

Why not compare against a team in the East that had a similar finishing position wins wise.
Miami Heat
Players over 6'6
Jaime Jaquez
Nikola Jovic
Bam Adebayo

Players under 6'6
Tyler Herro

Now let's look at the two teams that are competing in the finals.
Dallas
Players over 6'6
Dereck Lively
O-Max
Luka

Players under 6'6
Josh Green

Boston
Players over 6'6
Jayson Tatum

Players under 6'6
Payton Pritchard

[OxAndFox]

The thing that really stood out was even the guys that were under 6'6 from the other teams, minus Pritchard, were all 6'5. Hawkins, Green and Herro are all that height.
Perhaps thats a concious decision, say in the Pels case as they have had CJ and Alverado for the last 3 seasons? I don't think so, as I think it's definitely a front office preference thing.
You look at Dallas and their roster overall and it's even more glaring. You have Kyrie and that's pretty much it. Hardy is getting some minutes too and he is 6'4 and Exum is 6'5.

Next season the Kings might have De'Aaron Fox 6'3, Malik Monk 6'3 and Davion Mitchell 6'2 in the guard rotation. Keon and Huerter are 6'6 and 6'7. Out of the 5 I think we would only expect 3 to be here though?

[OxAndFox]

The ESPN draft simulator is okay to play around with. Bit too easy to game though. The last draft I selected Dalton Knecht (#9), Ja'Kobe Walter (#13), Tristan Da Silva (#17) and Kel'el Ware (#22) for the Kings.

[FarBeyondDriven]

anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?

[codydaze]

anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?

Brenden Nunes tweeted that we brought in Kyshawn George, Dillon Jones, Trey Alexander and Carlton Carrington for workouts. I think that's the only report I've seen though.

[typedrat]

anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?

A partial list, per HoopsHype:

[OxAndFox]

I expect Trentyn Flowers to go late in the draft. He is raw as hell, but he showed some flashes in Australia last season. It would take a 3-4 commitment.
But his style of game would suit any team that is run and gun and the wider open spaces of the NBA would suit.

[OxAndFox]

Looks like Kel'el Ware might be flying up the boards. He's as high as #9 now and many have him around the #13. I do wonder if the Grizzlies do in fact take him if Clingan is off the board.

[typedrat]

I would really love Tominaga as a second rounder or a UDFA.

[OGSactownballer]

yes it would because nobody besides the Knicks has two first round picks after our pick. Even if we got both the Knicks picks (#24 and #25) maybe one of the three players might still be there, likely Holmes II, but not two of them imo. Unless you're thinking we could move down slightly and take one of them and pick up an early 2nd and still get Holmes. I don't even want to entertain that because then I'll get my hopes up. But that's exactly the type of move we should be trying to do whether it's in hopes Holmes is there or not. If we could move back a little and get George and then pick up and early 2nd and get another good depth piece I'd be ecstatic.

Yeah you're right. Forgot the Pels had passed on the Lakers selection.
Would still be up for a trade down with the Knicks. Do the 13 for 24/25/38 and then 25 for 29/32.

Can then utilise #38/#45 for future picks or trade up for Bucks #33 who desperately need young talent on their roster.
Come away with #24/#29/#32/#33 would be great. There will be a shock player to fall right into that #24 region IMO.

I'm certainly not against what OGS suggests either with a trade down and out.

you sound like me. I always want to trade back and pick up extra picks. It irritates me that NBA general managers don't move around like this with how bad they all seemingly are at drafting.

This here.

If you are going to take pot shots and hope, best to have more chances and at the same time you get VERY cheap cost controlled depth that you bring into YOUR system.

[OxAndFox]

Yeah you're right. Forgot the Pels had passed on the Lakers selection.
Would still be up for a trade down with the Knicks. Do the 13 for 24/25/38 and then 25 for 29/32.

Can then utilise #38/#45 for future picks or trade up for Bucks #33 who desperately need young talent on their roster.
Come away with #24/#29/#32/#33 would be great. There will be a shock player to fall right into that #24 region IMO.

I'm certainly not against what OGS suggests either with a trade down and out.

you sound like me. I always want to trade back and pick up extra picks. It irritates me that NBA general managers don't move around like this with how bad they all seemingly are at drafting.

This here.

If you are going to take pot shots and hope, best to have more chances and at the same time you get VERY cheap cost controlled depth that you bring into YOUR system.

Absolutely. And for the first time in a long time the Kings have proven to be decent at developing talent and have personnel like Lindsey Harding at Stockton, running the same system as Sacramento and then you have Luke, Doug and Jay that seem like their skills compliment each other.

[OGSactownballer]

anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?

A partial list, per HoopsHype:

I find it absolutely fascinating that every guy listed here is rated at 20 or lower.

That is awfully suspicious for a trade down.

[typedrat]

I find it absolutely fascinating that every guy listed here is rated at 20 or lower.

That is awfully suspicious for a trade down.

That's true of almost every team except for the ones with top-five or so picks. I think it's more a question of who has the incentive to talk to HoopsHype's sources.

[madskillz8]

Remember the last two times when we traded down. Didn't work at all, in terms of draft picks. The GM wasn't Monte, and I understand the talent level flat argument but still... And our history of second round picks and trades...

I think we should try our chances with the highest pick we have unless our favorite player could be drafted with the new lower pick. Historically, a higher pick has a higher chance to turn out to be something good. I mean, finding an-all star or good starter is more probable at that range than 25-30 range. Why? If there are say 10 such players in a draft, 4 would be still on the board at 13, and maybe 1 at 25th. We picked Haliburton at 12. Sabonis was pick 11. Monk was 13. We picked Fox at 5. In the same draft we also had 10th pick, and when we picked Justin Jackson at 15th, Donovan Mitchell and Bam Adebayo were just off-the-board at 13 and 14...

Again, I get that 2 picks vs 1 but I am not really sure if MB would play them at all. He would likely give 13th pick a chance. Optics... We should play powerball instead of buying a few scratch tickets.

A story is told of a man who once prayed to God. He fell to his knees, shut his eyes, opened his heart and with his hands in the air, he prayed to God every single day for 50 years. Each time, he says the same prayer: “Please God, let me win the lottery”. Lo and behold, an angel goes to God one day and laments, saying, “My Lord, this man has prayed to you for the past 50 years, why don’t you let him win the lottery?” The lord answered, I would love to, but he has never even bought a lottery ticket

[OxAndFox]

anyone have any sources to let us know who if any, we've brought in for workouts?

A partial list, per HoopsHype:

I find it absolutely fascinating that every guy listed here is rated at 20 or lower.

That is awfully suspicious for a trade down.

Excellent point.

I was looking at the 9/15 guards (Flowers isn't an SF) with only 3 PFs and no 5s.
12/15 are Monte Delights, as in older rookies.