2024 Draft Thread - Part II

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This is exactly what I would hope for.

Trade 2 for 7 and 14.

Draft Holland, Carter, and Holmes

Go for athleticism, defense, and transition scoring.

I love it, but I just can't see Portland giving 7 & 14 for 2.

I think they'd counter by asking us to add 26.

I think we'd then ask for 34 & 40 to be included.

They'd say ok -- if we throw in 51.

We'd agree to that, & the deal seems pretty fair to me.

[doclinkin]

I would definitely trade 2 for #7 and #14.

7 Castle or Ron Holland.
14 Devin Carter or Jared McCain.
26 DaRon Holmes.

This is exactly what I would hope for.

Trade 2 for 7 and 14.

Draft Holland, Carter, and Holmes

Go for athleticism, defense, and transition scoring.

Hey CCJ & Doc, what are your arguments for taking Castle over Holland? Or, why do you think our FO might do that?

Positional length. BBIQ. Switchability. Winning.

Castle, if he can play PG, is huge at the spot. Check who they drafted in OKC. Giddey, Chet, Pokuchevski, Jalen Wms, or recruiting SGA. All are big for their position. If Castle can play at PG he's the biggest in the draft. Most times they say your position is who you can defend. Castle absolutely smothered even the small quick guards in college. And was the cooler for every other perimeter guy. He had not shown that aptitude for defense in High School, where he was an on ball floor general type. He showed skill in working the post-entry play with Clingan, despite not playing with a giant in HS or the U18 USA squad. His ability to adjust to the moment and do what is required of him and shape himself to good coaching bodes well for whatever is next.

Neither Holland nor Castle shoot well, both are high effort players with intensity and motor. So you figure they will work and improve. Holland has the better end-to-end speed and a Westbrook level of go-go-go to his game. High level athleticism, with cat quick reflexes. I don't see him bulking up much more on that frame, but it won't be from lack of effort. Still, Holland's effort and intensity did not translate to wins or to elevating his team. He was the most ball-dominant player on the squad, a squad that killed off the G League Ignite. (Okay, in the era of NIL and the transfer portal, fair. But if they all won and looked good, grew over the season, it gets another year). Individually Holland developed by the end of the year, but not in a team concept. His personal numbers improved only. Holland as primary playmaker struggled and was clearly out of position.

Meanwhile Castle was a man out there. When teams dared him to shoot he hit big shots. He is win focused. I expect him to struggle a bit at full time PG, but over the course of the season his game grew in a team concept and his playmaking worked well in chemistry with Clingan in particular. Castle showed that even without the ball he was able to affect the box score and +/- shifting to supplementary player to set up Cam Spencer and Alex Karaban with screen assists and pin downs etc. To me he showed enough all-court awareness that I expect his HS lead guard game resurfaces and shines. And if he struggles for a bit, so much the better. We will lose while he learns. I think he is an ideal fit next to any of the megastars in the next draft. We recruit our Pippen before we get our MJ.

My read is that his game also improves the value of poor defenders like Vukcevic or Poole. Anything that rehabs the value of Poole is useful, especially if it can raise his game to the point where he is tradable. Reports suggest that Poole's work ethic in the gym is tops on the team. Whatever results it has on court, maybe it turns around, maybe not, but sounds like he brought with him the Stef Curry shooting fanaticism. Castle figures to match that energy, and if so maybe the shooting of both could improve.

Maybe not. But there are steady developmental minutes available for a big guard. Whereas at forward there would be something of a clash between Holland Bilal and Deni. If Holland is the clear Best Player, then that doesn't matter, you take him. But if he is on the same tier as Castle, then take the guy who fits a need.

In my mind Castle is the combo guard version of Kawhi. A stone cold all business player who is win oriented. Lives basketball, no smiles. Room for expansion, I think he will build his midrange game and eventually stretch that to better comfort outside the line, but he will never shrink from the challenge. His intensity is not subject to overreach in the way I have seen out of Holland. I like the fire, but Castle's fire fit with a championship run. No mistakes, smart every play on D.

When I hear that the Spurs want to trade up, to me I think Castle is the guy they are looking for. And they think we will take him. He is too perfect a fit for Coach Pop. A coaches dream. A shutdown guy in the 1-3 spot who has untapped potential as a two-way captain and floor leader.

[NatP4]

Castle reminds me so much of Troy Brown Jr, only Brown Jr was a year younger while in college, and didn’t have the benefit of playing on one of the best NCAA teams of all time.

Numbers and measurements are shockingly similar:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=stephon-castle--troy-brown

[nate33]

Castle reminds me so much of Troy Brown Jr, only Brown Jr was a year younger while in college, and didn’t have the benefit of playing on one of the best NCAA teams of all time.

Numbers and measurements are shockingly similar:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=stephon-castle--troy-brown

The numbers are indeed quite similar. Perhaps that should give one pause in one's expectations of Castle's offensive development. But the massive difference between Castle and Brown isn't in the offensive numbers captured by these statistics. It's defense. Castle is an elite defender - probably the best wing defender in this draft and maybe the best wing defender in a couple of years. Troy Brown has always been a below average defender.

If Troy Brown was also a shut down NBA defender - a legit stopper at the point of attack, he would be starting somewhere.

[NatP4]

Is Castle “elite” defensively, or simply good?

Top wing defenders in recent years IMO:
2024: Dunn, Buzelis?
2023: Thompson twins, Black, Wallace, Coulibaly, Camari, Cissoko
2022: Daniels, Terry, Watson, Vince Williams
2021: Suggs, Wagner

Castle isn’t Suggs or Dyson Daniels level defensively, that’s outlier/elite to me. More Cason Wallace/Anthony Black level. Anthony Black is probably a better comparison than TBJR.

[gambitx777]

Hot take I would rather draft a passable defender who can pass and really shoot over an elite defender who only does that well.

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[doclinkin]

Is Castle “elite” defensively, or simply good?

Top wing defenders in recent years IMO:
2024: Dunn, Buzelis?
2023: Thompson twins, Black, Wallace, Coulibaly, Camari, Cissoko
2022: Daniels, Terry, Watson, Vince Williams
2021: Suggs, Wagner

Castle isn’t Suggs or Dyson Daniels level defensively, that’s outlier/elite to me. More Cason Wallace/Anthony Black level. Anthony Black is probably a better comparison than TBJR.

The bias is stupefying apparently. We've been through this with stats and video evidence. Walk through the Tourney, check out the top perimeter scorers on teams that UConn faced, then check their totals when matched against Castle. Advanced stats and tracking point to Castle as the reason those players came up well short of their totals and shot terrible percentages. Scouts credit Castle. There's a reason he is in discussion in the top 5. Where your guy Cam Spencer is in round 2, late and Karaban returned to school. Yes Castle is elite. He is worth a 10% decline in opponent shooting percentages. He doesn't steal the ball because he sticks to his man and does not gamble, but he stalls the ball and forces opponents to bad decisions or worse shots or turnovers.

I get that you are humming with desire to draft Topic. A potentially nice prospect. Cool, you've got your guy. But you were downgrading Castle's achievements game by game in the Tournament even as he was winning. And you did everything you could to not give him credit. It will be amusing whichever team drafts them to see Topic and Castle face off next year. See if Topic scores at all. That part will be fun.

[gesa2]

Castle reminds me so much of Troy Brown Jr, only Brown Jr was a year younger while in college, and didn’t have the benefit of playing on one of the best NCAA teams of all time.

Numbers and measurements are shockingly similar:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=stephon-castle--troy-brown

As compelling as Doc’s case for Castle is, and how good he looked on D I have trouble compensating for the bias I know is in my head for the player I saw more, that played for a successful team. He might be great, learn to shoot. But I don’t trust my own eye test on him.

[payitforward]

Castle reminds me so much of Troy Brown Jr, only Brown Jr was a year younger while in college, and didn’t have the benefit of playing on one of the best NCAA teams of all time.

Numbers and measurements are shockingly similar:

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=stephon-castle--troy-brown

The numbers are indeed quite similar. Perhaps that should give one pause in one's expectations of Castle's offensive development. But the massive difference between Castle and Brown isn't in the offensive numbers captured by these statistics. It's defense. Castle is an elite defender - probably the best wing defender in this draft and maybe the best wing defender in a couple of years. Troy Brown has always been a below average defender.

If Troy Brown was also a shut down NBA defender - a legit stopper at the point of attack, he would be starting somewhere.

Agreed.

& you kind of have to wonder what the problem was/is w/ Brown. He seemed like a capable kid, & defense is in large part a matter of effort & concentration. Why didn't that part of his game, at least, develop?

[NatP4]

As compelling as Doc’s case for Castle is, and how good he looked on D I have trouble compensating for the bias I know is in my head for the player I saw more, that played for a successful team. He might be great, learn to shoot. But I don’t trust my own eye test on him.

Everyone has bias. It’s obviously okay to have an opinion that differs from another poster.

The team context is too easily dismissed in conversation about Castle. UConn ranked top 3 in just about every offensive statistical category. Everyone had inflated numbers on that team. Clingan put up some of the best rim protection numbers from any prospect in the last decade.

I like Anthony Black as a comparison for Castle. A guy that fit into a role on a good Arkansas team. Did all the little things and wasn’t about self. Ended up going 6th overall.

[Ed Wood]

Castle also had possibly the best interior defensive presence in college basketball behind him and the benefit of a really exceptional schematic defense to operate within - which can have a pretty significant impact on a player's apparent on-ball capabilities.

Biases can fairly be said to run both ways (and in talking about who we are into drafting without any of us really having the personal depth of knowledge to have strong rationale they would) in saying things like "a potentially nice prospect." Topic has a calling card skill that suggests a route to being a really difference making NBA player and that's a large part of the case to draft him in preference to the other guard options in this class (not an uncommon case to make). It's a pretty coherent draft philosophy to value drafting players with a demonstrated developmental route to something really special and the Wizards are notably short on that kind of elevating talent.

Two loosely related thoughts:

- That list seems to be missing Herb Jones, who at least in retrospect might be the best wing defender drafted in the last three years. I also want to say in defense of Dyson Daniels, who is still working on it offensively, that he has been tracking as a pretty outrageous defender in a way that probably makes it worth keeping him on the floor even while he's getting it together.

- The (overly) unflattering parallel it seems easy to draw for Castle is Johnny Davis - similarly sized guard prospect who was a very winning college player and a pretty lauded defender but who was seen as kind of an assemblage of respectable but not impressive offensive qualities.

[nate33]

This is exactly what I would hope for.

Trade 2 for 7 and 14.

Draft Holland, Carter, and Holmes

Go for athleticism, defense, and transition scoring.

Hey CCJ & Doc, what are your arguments for taking Castle over Holland? Or, why do you think our FO might do that?

Positional length. BBIQ. Switchability. Winning.

Castle, if he can play PG, is huge at the spot. Check who they drafted in OKC. Giddey, Chet, Pokuchevski, Jalen Wms, or recruiting SGA. All are big for their position. If Castle can play at PG he's the biggest in the draft. Most times they say your position is who you can defend. Castle absolutely smothered even the small quick guards in college. And was the cooler for every other perimeter guy. He had not shown that aptitude for defense in High School, where he was an on ball floor general type. He showed skill in working the post-entry play with Clingan, despite not playing with a giant in HS or the U18 USA squad. His ability to adjust to the moment and do what is required of him and shape himself to good coaching bodes well for whatever is next.

Neither Holland nor Castle shoot well, both are high effort players with intensity and motor. So you figure they will work and improve. Holland has the better end-to-end speed and a Westbrook level of go-go-go to his game. High level athleticism, with cat quick reflexes. I don't see him bulking up much more on that frame, but it won't be from lack of effort. Still, Holland's effort and intensity did not translate to wins or to elevating his team. He was the most ball-dominant player on the squad, a squad that killed off the G League Ignite. (Okay, in the era of NIL and the transfer portal, fair. But if they all won and looked good, grew over the season, it gets another year). Individually Holland developed by the end of the year, but not in a team concept. His personal numbers improved only. Holland as primary playmaker struggled and was clearly out of position.

Meanwhile Castle was a man out there. When teams dared him to shoot he hit big shots. He is win focused. I expect him to struggle a bit at full time PG, but over the course of the season his game grew in a team concept and his playmaking worked well in chemistry with Clingan in particular. Castle showed that even without the ball he was able to affect the box score and +/- shifting to supplementary player to set up Cam Spencer and Alex Karaban with screen assists and pin downs etc. To me he showed enough all-court awareness that I expect his HS lead guard game resurfaces and shines. And if he struggles for a bit, so much the better. We will lose while he learns. I think he is an ideal fit next to any of the megastars in the next draft. We recruit our Pippen before we get our MJ.

My read is that his game also improves the value of poor defenders like Vukcevic or Poole. Anything that rehabs the value of Poole is useful, especially if it can raise his game to the point where he is tradable. Reports suggest that Poole's work ethic in the gym is tops on the team. Whatever results it has on court, maybe it turns around, maybe not, but sounds like he brought with him the Stef Curry shooting fanaticism. Castle figures to match that energy, and if so maybe the shooting of both could improve.

Maybe not. But there are steady developmental minutes available for a big guard. Whereas at forward there would be something of a clash between Holland Bilal and Deni. If Holland is the clear Best Player, then that doesn't matter, you take him. But if he is on the same tier as Castle, then take the guy who fits a need.

In my mind Castle is the combo guard version of Kawhi. A stone cold all business player who is win oriented. Lives basketball, no smiles. Room for expansion, I think he will build his midrange game and eventually stretch that to better comfort outside the line, but he will never shrink from the challenge. His intensity is not subject to overreach in the way I have seen out of Holland. I like the fire, but Castle's fire fit with a championship run. No mistakes, smart every play on D.

When I hear that the Spurs want to trade up, to me I think Castle is the guy they are looking for. And they think we will take him. He is too perfect a fit for Coach Pop. A coaches dream. A shutdown guy in the 1-3 spot who has untapped potential as a two-way captain and floor leader.

Castle vs Holland is an interesting and relevant discussion.

The most obvious distinction between the two is fit. We are more in need of guard play than forward play. I also think Castle's outside shot is more likely to improve than Holland's. I just think it looks a bit cleaner, and I was impressed with his improvement at the combine. Holland's shot was still terrible at the combine which suggests he didn't work enough on the one clear and obvious weakness that he needed to address in the several months since his last Ignite game.

Holland is more athletic and bouncy and looks like he will have the tools to impose his will on a game to a greater degree than Castle if everything breaks right. Ultimately, I think Holland's ceiling is higher, but his floor is lower than Castle. It's possible that Holland is never a quality starter. I think Castle's floor is a 5th starter in the Isaac Okoro/Dillon Brooks mold with an upside as a 3d starter in the Jalen Suggs/Jrue Holiday mold.

Dat2U would argue, and perhaps rightfully so, that we should take Holland due to that superior upside. I'm not sure which guy to take. A lot probably depends on how much we think our developmental coaches can refine their outside shooting.

[doclinkin]

As compelling as Doc’s case for Castle is, and how good he looked on D I have trouble compensating for the bias I know is in my head for the player I saw more, that played for a successful team. He might be great, learn to shoot. But I don’t trust my own eye test on him.

Everyone has bias. It’s obviously okay to have an opinion that differs from another poster.

I like Anthony Black as a comparison for Castle. A guy that fit into a role on a good Arkansas team. Did all the little things and wasn’t about self. Ended up going 6th overall.

I'd agree that Anthony Black and Castle and Dyson Daniels are all in a similar track. I also agree I am biased towards Castle, in large part due to closer observation. I watched his games more than Arkansas and saw him grow into the role that was filled by junior Andre Jackson Jr in the prior year's championship run.

My assessment though has him as an upgraded Anthony Black. A better defender. Stronger. With ultimately more shot creation ability and better upside at the 3pt line. Longer wingspan, better frame to add strength, thus more versatile. He is aggressive and wants to score. His toughness will earn him a reputation and repetitions.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=stephon-castle--anthony-black--andre-jackson-jr--dyson-daniels

I'd put Dyson Daniels ahead of him on defense. But like the potential of Castle as an 'I got this' scorer who will force the action and not shy from the moment at that end when necessary. This offense is the part that makes him a better prospect to me. Coaches reward players who can score. You get more developmental time and benefit of the calls by refs. Castles interior scoring will earn him chances to miss a few shots while he tools his mid-range game and out. It is part of his game that we did not see in college, but was his bread and butter coming up in Georgia ball and international play. It's the part that gives him under-recognized upside.

I noticed Castle when the pundits were tracking Collier, and scouting videos made these Castle vs Collier battles. I saw a kid with remarkable poise and an unrattled ability to make things happen while deep in traffic.

That he ended up playing for UConn was a bonus since my family follows men's and women's huskies teams since way back.
I was curious how that would fit on Uconn who already had a triple double threat in Newton. I figured Castle would understudy for him and maybe take over next year. A tall strong playmaker with rebounding bonafides, seemed like he'd be the ideal back-up while acclimated. I didn't see his defense being the thing that kept him on the floor. But he showed up early, and despite the meniscus setback became unbenchable.

You can read back through these threads, I've been up and down on most draft prospects. Castle included. As a rule I agree with Dat that in general you don't draft guards and wings who can't shoot from range. Its why I remain a Topić doubter. We have been stung by all the Bongas and Brown Jrs and Deni's and so on who enter the league with multi-tool games that are incomplete in that one aspect: putting the ball through the hoop.

However. Castle's championship run convinced me. The kid showed remarkable poise, stepping up his game when it was critical to do so. Yes he was not the designated shooter on the Huskies. That role was given to Cam and Karaban. But as the backdoor guy and screen assist and motion cutter and most reliable entry passer he filled a difficult off-the-ball role that is not easy to understand in a very complex offense. His chemistry with the Big was precocious and notable. When the team needed him to score he did so. When dared to shoot he hit the shots. And every game he proved the key defender on the perimeter. The Tournament is a crucible for guards. You usually do well recruiting the top guard off the Championship team. Why I knew players like Mario Chalmers and Kemba Walker would have better careers than where they were mocked by the experts. The best teams are usually the ones elevated by Guard play, especially in the early rounds. Castle brought cold water to players who had advanced due to hot shooting, every game.

I am biased towards winning play. It is not easy for a freshman to seize a star role on a Championship team. It was reasonable to expect UConn to drop off. They didn't and scouts all point to Castle and Clingan as the reason why. He's mocked at the top of the draft on those merits.

A more aggressive better scoring Anthony Black or Dyson Daniels is a damned good player.

[DCZards]

The (overly) unflattering parallel it seems easy to draw for Castle is Johnny Davis - similarly sized guard prospect who was a very winning college player and a pretty lauded defender but who was seen as kind of an assemblage of respectable but not impressive offensive qualities.

Not similar in size at all. Davis is 6’4 whereas Castle is 6’7.

Where Davis struggles to score in the paint, scoring down low through contact is a Castle strength that most of the scouting reports point out.

[Ed Wood]

Castle is about 3/4 of an inch taller and measured out as having just about an identical wingspan and a very similar (but shorter) standing reach.

[NatP4]

The (overly) unflattering parallel it seems easy to draw for Castle is Johnny Davis - similarly sized guard prospect who was a very winning college player and a pretty lauded defender but who was seen as kind of an assemblage of respectable but not impressive offensive qualities.

Not similar in size at all. Davis is 6’4 whereas Castle is 6’7.

Where Davis struggles to score in the paint, scoring down low through contact is a Castle strength that most of the scouting reports point out.

Tankathon lists Johnny Davis at 6’5.75” with a 6’8.5” wingspan and Castle at 6’6.75” with a 6’9 wingspan.

How is that “not similar at all”?

[doclinkin]

The (overly) unflattering parallel it seems easy to draw for Castle is Johnny Davis - similarly sized guard prospect who was a very winning college player and a pretty lauded defender but who was seen as kind of an assemblage of respectable but not impressive offensive qualities.

Not similar in size at all. Davis is 6’4 whereas Castle is 6’7.

Where Davis struggles to score in the paint, scoring down low through contact is a Castle strength that most of the scouting reports point out.

Yeah its an understandable #soWiz comparison from fans who have been stung before. But their games are entirely dissimilar.

Johnny Davis was a low efficiency high volume scorer in college on a team that had no one else willing to shoot. Davis took a ton of difficult shots generally from high traffic shot creation in the midrange. Aside from hustle on defense he had nothing else to add to team play. No passing skill, no outside shot. No offball screening, etc. The hope for Davis was that given his near 80% FT shooting and his work ethic, he would eventually develop a 3pt shot. As an undersized shooting guard that was the only chance he had. I did not like the pick, but granted him that grace note. So far he hasn't earned it.

By contrast Castle found a key role in the most complex offensive scheme in college basketball.

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Frankly I think Tristen Newton will prove a solid pro, not sure why he is entirely overlooked. He's a Spurs or Heat type player, immediately fitting in as a big PG. But Castle helped that team a ton by bringing up the ball and allowing all the complex offball motion by Newton Karaban & Spencer. When he had his chances in the offense he cut hard, scored down low after contact, made himself an available target when the big was doubled, padding Clingan's assist numbers.

As a big physical player he does not shy away from impact, shows good balance mid-air and finishes in traffic. This aspect of his game will only get better as he adds strength. But no matter what he will find a way to help his team even when he is not featured. That is a facet of his game that did show up all season. He works for wins not empty stats.

I agree Topic looks good in Adriatic ball on his developmental team. Scored efficiently on the interior with good balance and midair trick shot layups from odd angles. Fun to watch. Made some nice passes with his improbably long arms. He has the weirdest proportions I have seen. He is all torso and neck, with wee little dachshund legs. That gives him good balance and control in traffic, low center of gravity. It also robs him of verticality in his jump, and speed on defense, but otherwise he made it work.

I didn't like his competition so I had questions about if his skill set translates against better athletes. I've linked to and picked my way through the draft status and NCAA resume of all players in the ABA. It is no question a lower tier league in Euro play. Topic's wheels came off when he played at the next level, though doubtless he could've adjusted over time if he hadn't immediately gotten injured.

I don't like his jumper that he launches from eyeball level. That does not work in the NBA. He only takes it when wide open, which would be fine if he worked to get open, but I don't like his passivity in every aspect of the game other than ball handling. He's nice with the ball, but off ball he simply stands around. And did nothing on defense. I found myself irked watching him and trying to picture him on an NBA squad. So, he's not my guy. I'm intrigued with him, but get a very boom/bust flavor from his game. High potential and low floor. If the front office likes him, then I'm okay with the pick and will hope for the potential part.

[Dat2U]

The (overly) unflattering parallel it seems easy to draw for Castle is Johnny Davis - similarly sized guard prospect who was a very winning college player and a pretty lauded defender but who was seen as kind of an assemblage of respectable but not impressive offensive qualities.

Not similar in size at all. Davis is 6’4 whereas Castle is 6’7.

Where Davis struggles to score in the paint, scoring down low through contact is a Castle strength that most of the scouting reports point out.

No reason to embellish. We all have access to the measurements.

https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/prospect-profile-johnny-davis

"At the recent Draft Combine in Chicago, Davis measured out at 6’.5.75” and 196 pounds with a 6’.8.5” wingspan, confirming the prototypical build for a shooting guard. And he’s a player who uses his size well, averaging 6.3 free throw attempts per game as a sophomore."

[doclinkin]

Castle is about 3/4 of an inch taller and measured out as having just about an identical wingspan and a very similar (but shorter) standing reach.

Nobody trusts the standing reach measurements nowadays since players tank it to improve their apparent jump. By observation Castle has a much taller reach than he is credited for in the measurements.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5496155/2024/05/16/zach-edey-nba-draft-combine/

No testing drill gets more attention at the combine than the vertical leap. It’s also the one that might invite the most shenanigans.

Now, this isn’t an accusation about anyone at this year’s combine and no one is saying there was any tomfoolery this week. But among basketball officials, there’s a well-known way to try to hack the vert jump that seems interesting to note.

A player’s vertical is tested by first measuring their standing reach. That sets a baseline, and the height a player reaches on their vert is based off that reach.

But one way to try to grab a few more inches is to short arm the standing reach, which sets the baseline lower and would make the vert jump pop. It’s a commonly known tactic among both team officials and agents. Another way to try to add an inch or two, one scout pointed out, might be showing up lighter to the combine, which could help the player jump higher since he’s trying to carry less weight.

That doesn’t mean it always works and fools the NBA. Teams have a good feel for the standard standing reaches for a player based on their height, and if someone’s reach comes up a little short based on that then the vert might get a little fishy. Teams also do their own individual testing when they bring a prospect in for a visit to their own facility.

[nate33]

Using no-shoes heights, Castle is 1.25" inches taller than Davis. He has 0.5" greater wingspan.

What I think is more relevant is Castle outweighs Davis by 14 points (210 to 196). The guy is a brick house, and yet he still posted outstanding lane agility (10.93) and shuttle run (2.91) times.

Davis didn't participate in the athletic drills.