2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th)

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Who wins the 2024 NBA FINALS?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:00 am

Celtics in 4
14
3%
Celtics in 5
60
12%
Celtics in 6
138
29%
Celtics in 7
38
8%
Mavericks in 4
14
3%
Mavericks in 5
19
4%
Mavericks in 6
161
33%
Mavericks in 7
40
8%
 
Total votes: 484

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1501 » by The Corey's » Thu Jun 6, 2024 11:30 am

kivancb wrote:https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/2024-nba-finals-simulation-celtics-mavericks-prediction/618142/

That sounds just about as expected, so I would expect slight changes in the final outcome, but not big ones.



Celtics in 5? Where have I heard that before?

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1502 » by ITYSL » Thu Jun 6, 2024 11:43 am

Astaluego wrote:
CoP wrote:
Mr B wrote:You can’t compare losing a bench big to losing your star player. If the C’a had lost Tatum or Brown then that would be comparable.

A bench big? Yeah that's true, Kornet did get hurt in the Pacers series...

LMAO

As a Mavs fan, I know a little about KP's history (even if the recovery time has been adequate)... and I know the soleus injuries well, it seems like you recovered, everything is fine and suddenly goodbye... Especially with all that tension of a final... I don't have a crystal ball and I don't want anyone to get hurt, but I don't see KP lasting the entire series.

Yes, I'm worried about that. I hope they ease him in on the minutes so that he can build into it.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1503 » by Baz » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:13 pm

I have waited 13 years to see the Mavs back in the Finals. Whatever happens, today is a sweet day to support this ball club.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1504 » by kacey ring » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:39 pm

Poll is at 242 for Cs, 232 for Mavs. Interesting.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1505 » by GSWFan1994 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:44 pm

kacey ring wrote:Poll is at 242 for Cs, 232 for Mavs. Interesting.


I was just going to post this. Man, almost 500 votes in the poll... that's a lot!
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1506 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:44 pm

Mr B wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Halliburton got injured in game 2 and didn’t play in games 3 and 4. Once he went out the series was done. They were not the challenge that Dallas will be for them. Also Donovan Mitchell was out in their series and Jimmy Butler was out in their series. So Boston has yet to face a team with their best player (aside from game 1 against the Pacers which Boston barely won. The Celtics won’t have that luxury against Dallas.

Also how many 50 win teams have the Celtics faced in these playoffs? How many 50 win teams has Dallas faced?

Mitchell did play in 3 games, Tyrese played much of game 2 which was a blowout, but yeah this point has been made plenty. Cs didn’t face 100% healthy teams. We know. Cs had a key injury of their own to deal with.

You can’t compare losing a bench big to losing your star player. If the C’a had lost Tatum or Brown then that would be comparable.

Moronic take. Porzingas is arguably as big or more of a difference maker than Brown. 20/7, most efficient post player in the league, exceptional rim protection. Definitely not a bench big.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1507 » by kacey ring » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:46 pm

CoP wrote:Bringing this portion from another thread because I think this could have a big effect on the series.
CoP wrote:As for the Luka PnR, I think we may see a mixed strategy. Sometimes the primary defender will go under the screen in order to limit Luka's penetration into the paint. At other times, you'll see a blitz of Luka just to get the ball out of his hands entirely. At other times, you'll see Boston pre-switching so that their big can stay low with Lively/Gafford. At other times, you'll see a dig by the perimeter defender to try to slow his movement into the paint. You could also see a combination of these, for example a pre-switch to keep the big low in combination with a blitz.

Boston used some of these strategies against Indiana, when the Pacers were targeting Horford on switches. This led to Horford being the primary defender on Siakam on a lot fewer possessions in games 3 and 4 vs. games 1 and 2. Game 1: 33 possessions. Game 2: 28. Game 3: 18. Game 4: 13.

None of these strategies will work 100% of the time, but some of them may work better than others, and some may work better at certain times of the game vs. others. In end-of-game situations, for example, a blitz combined with tight single coverage of Kyrie may slow down their clutch offense.

Luka is a transcendent offensive player, and so you have to throw varied coverages against him, not to shut him down entirely because that's not possible, but to slow down his ability to completely control the possession beyond just shooting a contested stepback 3.


I was also thinking that Boston's PnR could and should vary depending on who's on the floor for the Mavs. If it's Gafford and they're running their typical 1-5 PnR, then a blitz to encourage a pass to Gafford at the FT line might be the best bet. That would force Gafford to make a decision with the ball, and he is not nearly as good at that as Lively, as we saw in the one game where Lively was out.

Should be a great aspect of the game to watch as the series goes on.


Thanks for sharing the post. The C’s handling of the Luka PnR is the most intriguing part of the series for me. The C’s have the personnel to try so much more than Mavs other PO opponents.

I’m so ready for G1 and glad it is finally the day! GL to the C’s fan!
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1508 » by Loaded_Hollows » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:53 pm

Kyrie must lose at all costs :D

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1509 » by Special_Puppy » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:23 pm

Majority of ESPN experts think the Mavericks are favored. I can’t tell if people are just *really* leaning into the idea that “the team with the best player is favored” idea or if people are just *really* overthinking it https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40279206/2024-nba-finals-predictions-celtics-mavericks-series-mvp
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1510 » by Bornstellar » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:26 pm

FINALLY some basketball to watch
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1511 » by BrooklynDynasty » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:38 pm

Mavericks +6.5 is the biggest LOCK of the playoffs, bet the house on it. Boston comes out rusty and with a Porzingis unable to find his sea legs, while Dallas builds a 20 point lead and cruises to victory
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1512 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:46 pm

BrooklynDynasty wrote:Mavericks +6.5 is the biggest LOCK of the playoffs, bet the house on it. Boston comes out rusty and with a Porzingis unable to find his sea legs, while Dallas builds a 20 point lead and cruises to victory

Did you lay down some money on that?
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1513 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:47 pm

BrooklynDynasty wrote:Mavericks +6.5 is the biggest LOCK of the playoffs, bet the house on it. Boston comes out rusty and with a Porzingis unable to find his sea legs, while Dallas builds a 20 point lead and cruises to victory

Go back to sleep.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1514 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:50 pm

Going to be a great series. Can’t wait for tipoff.
Keys to the game will the Cs defense slowing Luka down enough, and not letting other players beat them. Can Porzingas be a solid contributor on both sides of the floor. Can Mavs effectively keep the Cs offense from going off. Are the Mavs bigs going to be as effective defenders with a stretched floor.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1515 » by Mavrelous » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:56 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:Majority of ESPN experts think the Mavericks are favored. I can’t tell if people are just *really* leaning into the idea that “the team with the best player is favored” idea or if people are just *really* overthinking it https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40279206/2024-nba-finals-predictions-celtics-mavericks-series-mvp

This is bizarre to me, the numbers couldn't be more clear, at least the knowledgeable (Lowe, Bontemps, Pelton) ones are going with Celtics.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1516 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jun 6, 2024 2:33 pm

To repeat because sadly I have to, Celtics should be a clear favorite here.

but its not at all wild to me for someone to pick Dallas. Luka and Kyrie are that special of offensive players, they have been defending like crazy, and they just went through 3 of the top 4 Western teams on the road without all that much trouble.

No idea why this offends so many of you so much that some people think Dallas can win. But they absolutely can.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1517 » by Bob8 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 2:43 pm

When Texas Chuck starts to fight for Mavs, you know that Celtics fans are gone too far. :D
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1518 » by Special_Puppy » Thu Jun 6, 2024 2:57 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:To repeat because sadly I have to, Celtics should be a clear favorite here.

but its not at all wild to me for someone to pick Dallas. Luka and Kyrie are that special of offensive players, they have been defending like crazy, and they just went through 3 of the top 4 Western teams on the road without all that much trouble.

No idea why this offends so many of you so much that some people think Dallas can win. But they absolutely can.


I do think its wild for someone to think that the Mavericks are favored. Not that they have a great chance of winning (I don't have a problem with that take), but they are straight-up the team most likely to win.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1519 » by Bob8 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 3:04 pm

https://youtu.be/2ji47tFF3Os?si=BjVU-nU-cL6dwnfN

KG a lot more realistic than Celtics fans.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th) 

Post#1520 » by maradro » Thu Jun 6, 2024 3:05 pm

celtics are favorites- experts and bookies, they all have ulterior motives- celtics are deeper, more experienced, etc etc etc.

that said- celtics have the porzingis question mark, and their 3pt variance has bit them in the ass before. same for late game execution (use white/brogdon/now holiday thats what you brought them for FFS!). with smart gone thats one less bonehead at the end of games but tatum and brown dont inspire the same confidence as luka, let alone luka +kyrie. Game 1 is dallas' big shot. if porzingis coming back isnt somewhat seamless for the celtics, game 1 is up for grabs and suddenly the celtics are under a ton of pressure to prove they can get over the hump and that opens everything up for dallas. I dont know what the actual stat is but this year more than most, i feel like the winner of game 1 is just about guaranteed to win the series, and because of those circumstances i think the mavs have better odds than they normally would to pull the upset.


Anyways Im from argentina, came into the thread because local websites have pics of Pep Guardiola visiting Mazzula during practice now before the finals, from the hand gestures etc it appears they are discussing tactics- dont know if that good or bad news for celtics fans :)

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