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Re: Wiggins 

Post#41 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 6, 2024 4:10 pm

Dalek wrote:The possibility of Andrew Wiggins coming to Toronto is discussed every year. What makes this year the year? The fact that we have KO and Barrett from Team Canada - the same team he rarely ever commits to.

I don't think Toronto needs to take on bad salary for picks. If we are being honest about Wiggins, he sucked prior to playing with three of the best teammates you could ever hope for in Curry, Klay and Dray. Same thing with Otto Porter Jr. Outside of superstars Wiggins is a waste of talent with marginal drive and minimal growth as a player.

Damn man, OPJ was a real good player before he was a Warrior.

Dude literally put up 15/6/4 on 50/44/83 splits one year lol. Dont let his poor play here tarnish what was a good career before getting injured.
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Post#42 » by OakleyDokely » Thu Jun 6, 2024 4:17 pm

Wiggins is the new Vince Carter. He's going to rumoured to be coming to Toronto every single year until he retires.
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Post#43 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Jun 6, 2024 4:30 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Wiggins is the new Vince Carter. He's going to rumoured to be coming to Toronto every single year until he retires.


Don't worry, I got a good feeling it's happening this trade deadline. He's trying to play for Team Canada as a way to warm up to Canadians first lol.
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Re: Wiggins 

Post#44 » by Dalek » Thu Jun 6, 2024 7:05 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Dalek wrote:The possibility of Andrew Wiggins coming to Toronto is discussed every year. What makes this year the year? The fact that we have KO and Barrett from Team Canada - the same team he rarely ever commits to.

I don't think Toronto needs to take on bad salary for picks. If we are being honest about Wiggins, he sucked prior to playing with three of the best teammates you could ever hope for in Curry, Klay and Dray. Same thing with Otto Porter Jr. Outside of superstars Wiggins is a waste of talent with marginal drive and minimal growth as a player.

Damn man, OPJ was a real good player before he was a Warrior.

Dude literally put up 15/6/4 on 50/44/83 splits one year lol. Dont let his poor play here tarnish what was a good career before getting injured.


Wiggins and OPJ are under different rules. Wiggins went first in his draft while OPJ went third. To say that OPJ had a good career considering where he was drafted is not true. Being a 10 PPG scorer who barely played some years is bot reason for me to think he had some type of great career. He was a replacement level role player who had a spike in play only during his Warrior stint.

Wiggins would probably be one of the most hyped and failed first overall picks ever, he already has one of the worst contracts in the league.
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Post#45 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Jun 6, 2024 8:00 pm

Dalek wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Dalek wrote:The possibility of Andrew Wiggins coming to Toronto is discussed every year. What makes this year the year? The fact that we have KO and Barrett from Team Canada - the same team he rarely ever commits to.

I don't think Toronto needs to take on bad salary for picks. If we are being honest about Wiggins, he sucked prior to playing with three of the best teammates you could ever hope for in Curry, Klay and Dray. Same thing with Otto Porter Jr. Outside of superstars Wiggins is a waste of talent with marginal drive and minimal growth as a player.

Damn man, OPJ was a real good player before he was a Warrior.

Dude literally put up 15/6/4 on 50/44/83 splits one year lol. Dont let his poor play here tarnish what was a good career before getting injured.


Wiggins and OPJ are under different rules. Wiggins went first in his draft while OPJ went third. To say that OPJ had a good career considering where he was drafted is not true. Being a 10 PPG scorer who barely played some years is bot reason for me to think he had some type of great career. He was a replacement level role player who had a spike in play only during his Warrior stint.

Wiggins would probably be one of the most hyped and failed first overall picks ever, he already has one of the worst contracts in the league.

OPJ is literally 8th in his draft class in win shares and 6th adjusted for minutes.

Hell, you could do a redraft of that year and he might still go top 5. Giannis, Gobert, CJ, and Oladipo are the only clear cut better players from 2013. Calling OPJ a t 10ppg player means you have not idea what he was like pre-injury. He was looking like he was going to end up as a very good 3+D guy. He shot 43%, 44%, and 41% from 3 in his last 3 healthy seasons.

His Warrior season was not even his best year, so the fact you keep going back to it is weird. OPJ was a good player before he ever went to Golden State. His body just failed him and the GSW season was his bodies last hurrah.

And the sad part is OPJ is still about average for a #3 pick. He ended up as a solid starter, and a 6th man on championship team. That is just the reality of what most NBA players peak as.
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