Fake Trade Thread #6

[MasterIchiro]

I see Clingan mocked to CHA in multiple outlets...If so, would Mark Williams be available at a reasonable price-considering his injury issues?

I'm under the impression that, despite occasionally putting up big numbers, CHA is generally disappointed with him.

Just today media reports claim the Rockets are fielding offers for Clingan at 3. Seems sufficient number of teams want to move up for him that he won't likely be at 6. If he's there, those same teams talking with the Rockets will be discussing Clingan with Charlotte.

Grizzlies are one of the teams. They have pick 9.

Rockets reportedly want Mikal Bridges. Nets are in the mix for pick 3 as well, but it's unclear who they're targeting at 3.

[tester551]

Thybulle one of the best wing defenders in basketball.

Portland is a great trade back option imo.


I love the fit of Miller/Thybulle on the wing. We can get a bench piece with that #14 pick while getting a starter at the wing who happens to play defense.

Thybulle/#14 for #6 pick

Portland fan here. I think a 3-way with Chicago works better.

#6 to Bulls
Portland's future first returned to Blazers
#11 + #40 + Thybulle to Charlotte

[MPM]

Personally? This draft? I'm doing this. #11, #40, and Thybulle for #6. Granted, I'm a Thybulle fan. Like his fit on our starting unit as well. #11 could have any number of guys there (hell, Topic after his knee news) and we could then package #40 and #42 to move into next year's draft (or into the 30's if there's someone we're keen on.)

[Rich4114]

I’d probably do the above trade as well, one of the guys we’ve liked during this process will be there at 11

[MPM]

I’d probably do the above trade as well, one of the guys we’ve liked during this process will be there at 11

Yeah, you get arguably the best wing defender in the league that now shoots a decent 3-ball and potentially get and sit Topic for the year, plus achieve second round flexibility? Down.

[dmutombo321]

Saw this proposal this morning.

CLT # 6 to OKC for their #12 this year + the 2025 first owed to them by the Heat (likely in the teens in next year's stronger draft) + 2025 second rounder owed to OKC by Memphis

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/mock-trade-hornets-move-back-in-swap-with-familiar-trade-partner

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[MasterIchiro]

If Clingan is there 6 he is still a top-3 talent.

I think I'd want Dort + 12.

[NCHeels2008]

Just curious if we would want MPJ if Denver looks to move him?

I like him next to Miller and Williams as it gives us great size in the starting lineup regardless of Ball's health and the ticking time bomb known as Miles Bridges. The contract is rich but with the CBA raising teams caps 10% annually and the Hornets being a fairly cheap team with young guys I don't mind the dice roll depending on what it would take value wise.

[JustBuzzin]

No on MPJ.

Taking that contract pretty much locks us in with a core of Melo/Miller/MPJ/Bridges.

That is not something I want moving forward. Guy had 4 points in a elimination game. No thanks.

[JustBuzzin]

I like Melo to Washington for Kuzma/2 future 1st.


There is a chance we could have 2 top 5 picks in a loaded draft.

If we can come away with Flagg + another top 5 pick that would be amazing.

[yosemiteben]

You would trade Melo for 2 1sts without knowing what picks they'll be?

Dude just say you don't like Melo, this is ridiculous.

[NCHeels2008]

No on MPJ.

Taking that contract pretty much locks us in with a core of Melo/Miller/MPJ/Bridges.

That is not something I want moving forward. Guy had 4 points in a elimination game. No thanks.

I'd be thrilled for us to be in a game 7 in the 2nd round at this point. He also averaged 23/8 on 49% from 3 in the previous round. Considering whats going on with his family I wouldn't overextrapolate that he is a career choker based on one series. If you look at his last 3 playoffs together he's 15/7 on 38% from 3 and has REALLY strong gravity that can bend defenses to make life easier for the rest of the team.

[JustBuzzin]

You would trade Melo for 2 1sts without knowing what picks they'll be?

Dude just say you don't like Melo, this is ridiculous.

Yep I sure would.

The 25 class is pretty loaded. We will also be in the running with our own pick. I like our chances of coming away with 2 great players with the Washington pick and our pick.

If we trading Melo that would be the type of trade I would look for. I don't want any star for star trades. My focus would be on potential lottery teams and getting those picks.

For the last time I'm not a Melo hater. Everytime I discuss Melo I'm a hater lol.

I was literally praising him for driving his go kart on his roof. That man is maturing right before our eyes. Practicing his driving skills shows me he wants to improve as a driver.

[JustBuzzin]

No on MPJ.

Taking that contract pretty much locks us in with a core of Melo/Miller/MPJ/Bridges.

That is not something I want moving forward. Guy had 4 points in a elimination game. No thanks.

I'd be thrilled for us to be in a game 7 in the 2nd round at this point. He also averaged 23/8 on 49% from 3 in the previous round. Considering whats going on with his family I wouldn't overextrapolate that he is a career choker based on one series. If you look at his last 3 playoffs together he's 15/7 on 38% from 3 and has REALLY strong gravity that can bend defenses to make life easier for the rest of the team.

That's fine until you look at his contract.

He's a nice piece of you have talent around him. I'm not sure I like the fit with Melo/Miller. All 3 are shooters. Who's attacking the rim in this scenario?

[NCHeels2008]

No on MPJ.

Taking that contract pretty much locks us in with a core of Melo/Miller/MPJ/Bridges.

That is not something I want moving forward. Guy had 4 points in a elimination game. No thanks.

I'd be thrilled for us to be in a game 7 in the 2nd round at this point. He also averaged 23/8 on 49% from 3 in the previous round. Considering whats going on with his family I wouldn't overextrapolate that he is a career choker based on one series. If you look at his last 3 playoffs together he's 15/7 on 38% from 3 and has REALLY strong gravity that can bend defenses to make life easier for the rest of the team.

That's fine until you look at his contract.

He's a nice piece of you have talent around him. I'm not sure I like the fit with Melo/Miller. All 3 are shooters. Who's attacking the rim in this scenario?

Mark Williams on PnRs with Ball and small guards who attack the basket are MUCH easier to find than tall lengthy shooters

[JustBuzzin]

I'd be thrilled for us to be in a game 7 in the 2nd round at this point. He also averaged 23/8 on 49% from 3 in the previous round. Considering whats going on with his family I wouldn't overextrapolate that he is a career choker based on one series. If you look at his last 3 playoffs together he's 15/7 on 38% from 3 and has REALLY strong gravity that can bend defenses to make life easier for the rest of the team.

That's fine until you look at his contract.

He's a nice piece of you have talent around him. I'm not sure I like the fit with Melo/Miller. All 3 are shooters. Who's attacking the rim in this scenario?

Mark Williams on PnRs with Ball and small guards who attack the basket are MUCH easier to find than tall lengthy shooters

A shooter on a max contract doesn't sound all that great.

We can just draft Knecht for much shooter. He's better at shooting and can create off the dribble.

MPJ would make more sense if we didn't already have Miller.

[NCHeels2008]

That's fine until you look at his contract.

He's a nice piece of you have talent around him. I'm not sure I like the fit with Melo/Miller. All 3 are shooters. Who's attacking the rim in this scenario?

Mark Williams on PnRs with Ball and small guards who attack the basket are MUCH easier to find than tall lengthy shooters

A shooter on a max contract doesn't sound all that great.

We can just draft Knecht for much shooter. He's better at shooting and can create off the dribble.

MPJ would make more sense if we didn't already have Miller.

Nobody is signing with Charlotte, Bridges is a ticking time bomb, I'm sorry but I struggle how having two rangy shooters who can defend is a bad thing. This was the whole theory behind uniting PG and Kawhi which failed moreso due health not the theory of the team.

We also have a creator far beyond anything that team has had. You also get versatility in terms of position where Miller and MPJ can be the 2/3 or the 3/4. Porter's contract will expire when Miller's extension comes up, I'd honestly much rather have MPJ on his deal than roll the dice on Bridges (not that we can't afford both). This gives you a great defensive profile with strong coaching as you have tons of size (especially if Ball can stay upright at PG).

[JustBuzzin]

Mark Williams on PnRs with Ball and small guards who attack the basket are MUCH easier to find than tall lengthy shooters

A shooter on a max contract doesn't sound all that great.

We can just draft Knecht for much shooter. He's better at shooting and can create off the dribble.

MPJ would make more sense if we didn't already have Miller.

Nobody is signing with Charlotte, Bridges is a ticking time bomb, I'm sorry but I struggle how having two rangy shooters who can defend is a bad thing. This was the whole theory behind uniting PG and Kawhi which failed moreso due health not the theory of the team.

We also have a creator far beyond anything that team has had. You also get versatility in terms of position where Miller and MPJ can be the 2/3 or the 3/4. Porter's contract will expire when Miller's extension comes up, I'd honestly much rather have MPJ on his deal than roll the dice on Bridges (not that we can't afford both). This gives you a great defensive profile with strong coaching as you have tons of size (especially if Ball can stay upright at PG).

Well if Bridges leaves then you might can talk me into this trade as we would need another scorer to replace Bridges.

My thought was Bridges is returning and we would be locked into a core of Melo/Miller/MPJ/Bridges. I just didn't like that foursome together.

[NCHeels2008]

A shooter on a max contract doesn't sound all that great.

We can just draft Knecht for much shooter. He's better at shooting and can create off the dribble.

MPJ would make more sense if we didn't already have Miller.

Nobody is signing with Charlotte, Bridges is a ticking time bomb, I'm sorry but I struggle how having two rangy shooters who can defend is a bad thing. This was the whole theory behind uniting PG and Kawhi which failed moreso due health not the theory of the team.

We also have a creator far beyond anything that team has had. You also get versatility in terms of position where Miller and MPJ can be the 2/3 or the 3/4. Porter's contract will expire when Miller's extension comes up, I'd honestly much rather have MPJ on his deal than roll the dice on Bridges (not that we can't afford both). This gives you a great defensive profile with strong coaching as you have tons of size (especially if Ball can stay upright at PG).

Well if Bridges leaves then you might can talk me into this trade as we would need another scorer to replace Bridges.

My thought was Bridges is returning and we would be locked into a core of Melo/Miller/MPJ/Bridges. I just didn't like that foursome together.

I think whether he returns or not he isn't a steady long-term bet and we shouldn't plan our franchise around him.

[SWedd523]

You would trade Melo for 2 1sts without knowing what picks they'll be?

Dude just say you don't like Melo, this is ridiculous.

For the last time I'm not a Melo hater. Everytime I discuss Melo I'm a hater lol.

That's what Scooby and the Gang would refer to as a "clue"