2024 NBA Draft Thread

[clyde21]

Edey's defense is fine. I doubt it'll be worse than Steven Adams and Jonas Val. But unlike those guys, his size gives him a chance to be much better than them. It's hard to gauge his defense because his offensive role was so immense; he had to conserve energy and avoid foul trouble. And Purdue didn't have many great defenders, especially on the perimeter.

Put him in the right circumstance and he could legitimately border on elite defensively IMO. That's a big call but I stand by it. Brook Lopez went from one of the worst defenders at his position to one of the best. He doesn't move/react faster than Edey. He's in/was in an ideal circumstance.

im not saying Edey's defensive is not 'fine', I'm saying it's fine just by virtue of his size, not because he has great defensive instincts.

[clyde21]

why isn't Rob Dillingham the new Maxy?

Surly it's not the 2 inch diffrence...so why isn't he top 3 or 5?

i personally have him top 3 actually but i understand why most don't, size issues have a chance to be a legit disqualifier at the NBA level.

[Cammo101]

Name the 5 guys you think are most likely to be All Star caliber players from this draft, in order.

1. Stephon Castle
2. Alex Sarr
3. Ron Holland
4. Zaccherie Risacher
5. Rob Dillingham

This was much harder than I expected it to be.

[RyugaFan]

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This clip talked me out of Trentyn Flowers as a prospect.

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This clip talked me out of Trentyn Flowers as a prospect.

Yeah Celtics have been taking young project guys the last couple of years but this guy seems really un-enticing.

[CptCrunch]

Name the 5 guys you think are most likely to be All Star caliber players from this draft, in order.

Probably these 5 in some order, Reed is the clear best player of this class.

Reed

Castle

Topic

Risacher

Sarr

I see zero star potential in Clingan


You can consider these pulled-out-of-my-ass ratings, just visualized graphically. Everyone else's post is also pulled out of their asses so.

[crows2]

Name the 5 guys you think are most likely to be All Star caliber players from this draft, in order.

I’ve had Topic number 1 for most of the season but with the knee injury I think I’d go:

1. Sheppard
2. Topic
3. Williams
4. Castle
5. Risacher

[FarBeyondDriven]

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This clip talked me out of Trentyn Flowers as a prospect.

same, that's absolutely unacceptable for an 18 y/o playing overseas against grown men in a professional league

[shangrila]

Name the 5 guys you think are most likely to be All Star caliber players from this draft, in order.

Probably these 5 in some order, Reed is the clear best player of this class.

Reed

Castle

Topic

Risacher

Sarr

I see zero star potential in Clingan


You can consider these pulled-out-of-my-ass ratings, just visualized graphically. Everyone else's post is also pulled out of their asses so.

How does Reed have a higher chance of being an All Star than a Semi-Star?

[CptCrunch]

Name the 5 guys you think are most likely to be All Star caliber players from this draft, in order.

Probably these 5 in some order, Reed is the clear best player of this class.

Reed

Castle

Topic

Risacher

Sarr

I see zero star potential in Clingan


You can consider these pulled-out-of-my-ass ratings, just visualized graphically. Everyone else's post is also pulled out of their asses so.

How does Reed have a higher chance of being an All Star than a Semi-Star?

If he translates, he'll be closer to an superstar. If he doesn't. He'll be a crappy backup combo guard.

[RyugaFan]

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This clip talked me out of Trentyn Flowers as a prospect.

same, that's absolutely unacceptable for an 18 y/o playing overseas against grown men in a professional league

These are processing issues you don't even see in high school man. Like he literally cannot play bare minimum team defense.

[red_power]

why isn't Rob Dillingham the new Maxy?

Surly it's not the 2 inch diffrence...so why isn't he top 3 or 5?

He was a bench guy playing only for 23 minutes per game even in college. His scoring efficiency is incredible but there is a huge question mark he can sustain that level if he's asked to play 36 minutes every night.

I mean, it's more common for players to take a step back in their role once they have to face a tougher competition rather than an opposite.

[BigGargamel]

Name the 5 guys you think are most likely to be All Star caliber players from this draft, in order.

Risacher is the only guy I see who could possibly be an All-Star with proper development. Other than him, if I had to to a top 5, it would be.

1. Risacher
2. Knecht
3. Sarr
4. Williams
5. ?????

[RyugaFan]

Risacher's one of the least likeliest all-stars in this class. He's got very little self-creation ability.

[BigGargamel]

Well to be honest, if the All Star selections were still 2 guards, 2 forwards and a center my top 5 would have been

1. Sarr
2. Clingan
3. Edey
4. Missi
5. Ware



Someone from this class will make an All Star team, I just don't feel confident in any of them.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Risacher's one of the least likeliest all-stars in this class. He's got very little self-creation ability.

agreed. When is the last time a player of his archetype made an all-star team, Klay, Love? Doesn't mean he can't be an elite role player though and those have value. Not everyone can be lead scorer types on playoff caliber teams.

[_jin]

While I agree with the general opinion that Risacher hasnt displayed the shot creation ability that you'd want to see in a player of his profile, the reality is in European ball, and in French ball in particular, the only players allowed to create shots are the PGs. That's why guys like Doncic, Juan Nunez or Nolan Traore are able to shine at an earlier age than most because their roles is to create for themselves or others. What's obvious with Risacher is his discipline, the kid works hard, listens to instructions and respects them, he's never going to go against orders and try to go ISO when he's not allowed to, and Fred Fauthoux, his coach at JLBB and of the highest rated coaches in France, would not let him get away with it.
Look at Vezenkov, he won Euroleague MVP while never dribbling and only taking open shots. Even Wemby in his year at Mets 92 played very differently than he did last season with the Spurs where the offense ran through him.

[shangrila]

Probably these 5 in some order, Reed is the clear best player of this class.

Reed

Castle

Topic

Risacher

Sarr

I see zero star potential in Clingan


You can consider these pulled-out-of-my-ass ratings, just visualized graphically. Everyone else's post is also pulled out of their asses so.

How does Reed have a higher chance of being an All Star than a Semi-Star?

If he translates, he'll be closer to an superstar. If he doesn't. He'll be a crappy backup combo guard.

So you think he's boom or bust?

[RollingWave]

The path for bigs to make all star games are actually fairly simple, I suspect at least one of Starr and Clingan will make at least one or two

Also, it should be noted if Zach Edey ends up as a starter he might actually be a perineal all star just given the insane production

For non bigs it gets pretty tricky, Topic has the type of game that might end up being a all star

Dillingham if his team just let him be the primary for enough minutes could easily be an all star

If Castle and Sheppard actually becomes a point guard starter they have pretty strong chances to get at least one time all star

[CptCrunch]

How does Reed have a higher chance of being an All Star than a Semi-Star?

If he translates, he'll be closer to an superstar. If he doesn't. He'll be a crappy backup combo guard.

So you think he's boom or bust?

His, his production is outsized in BPM (an ersatz estimator of RAPM, which is an attempt at estimating adjusted plus minus). It is known that BPM is heavily biased for big men. Reed's production is only beaten by freshman Harden. All other players above him are bigs with most of them worthy of #1 picks, Zions, Davis, Beasley, Love, Chet, KAT, Mobley.

Add this on top of his shooting signals in the 100 percentile (not 99), far exceeding Curry. Reed is an outlier among outliers. If he can adjust to NBA speed, athleticism, there is no reason to think he cannot succeed. Lastly let's not forget that Reed is considered one of the highest basketball IQ players in this draft; smarter players adjust. Dumber ones like Ayton, Wiseman perish.