JB Bickerstaff Fired

[JujitsuFlip]

Just Dan thinking outside the box and wanting a flashy hire ... it hasn't paid off. Lue was Griff's choice.

Sounds like Dan repeated the same mistake with Beilein. Since jb and Koby are friends, I'm sure that was a Koby and/or Bernie choice.

Yep, Beilein was the best Michigan coach not named Izzo. What Dan surprisingly hasn't tried is simply spending whatever it takes for a proven coach and staff, albeit Lue was the highest paid assistant.

Byron Scott was decently proven, going to back to back Finals as the coach of the Nets. Even had 3 rings as a player with the Lakers.

Obviously LeBron had other plans and dipped.

[JonFromVA]

Sounds like Dan repeated the same mistake with Beilein. Since jb and Koby are friends, I'm sure that was a Koby and/or Bernie choice.

Yep, Beilein was the best Michigan coach not named Izzo. What Dan surprisingly hasn't tried is simply spending whatever it takes for a proven coach and staff, albeit Lue was the highest paid assistant.

Byron Scott was decently proven, going to back to back Finals as the coach of the Nets. Even had 3 rings as a player with the Lakers.

Obviously LeBron had other plans and dipped.

We didn't have to outbid anyone for Byron and a lot of people credited Eddie Jordan for his success in Jersey.

Of course finding a candidate who would take the job without knowing what James would do complicated things and here we are again.

[JujitsuFlip]

Yep, Beilein was the best Michigan coach not named Izzo. What Dan surprisingly hasn't tried is simply spending whatever it takes for a proven coach and staff, albeit Lue was the highest paid assistant.

Byron Scott was decently proven, going to back to back Finals as the coach of the Nets. Even had 3 rings as a player with the Lakers.

Obviously LeBron had other plans and dipped.

We didn't have to outbid anyone for Byron and a lot of people credited Eddie Jordan for his success in Jersey.

Never knew that about Eddie, haven't heard that guy's name in years. Byron still turned the Hornets into a 56 win team.

Idk who is currently really out there that has accomplished as much as he did, that is rumored to be interviewing. Our 2 most accomplished guys in the search are a 42 win 6 seed coach and 43 win coach who missed the playoffs.

[JonFromVA]

Byron Scott was decently proven, going to back to back Finals as the coach of the Nets. Even had 3 rings as a player with the Lakers.

Obviously LeBron had other plans and dipped.

We didn't have to outbid anyone for Byron and a lot of people credited Eddie Jordan for his success in Jersey.

Never knew that about Eddie, haven't heard that guy's name in years. Byron still turned the Hornets into a 56 win team.

Idk who is currently really out there that has accomplished as much as he did, that is rumored to be interviewing. Our 2 most accomplished guys in the search are a 42 win 6 seed coach and 43 win coach who missed the playoffs.

Funny... Scott lost his job in New Orleans because they did what you wished the Cavs had done to JBB after losing to the Nuggetts rather than the Knicks in an embarrassing first round exit. CP3 got hurt and Scott was fired just 9 games in.

Just like with a player there's a lot that contributes to a successful coach and it's non trivial to sort it all out. Byron was old school and his insistence that his players fight through screens contributed to some Kyrie injuries.

Sound familiar?

But hey, at least JBB was more interested in coaching the team than hitting the golf course.

[JujitsuFlip]

We didn't have to outbid anyone for Byron and a lot of people credited Eddie Jordan for his success in Jersey.

Never knew that about Eddie, haven't heard that guy's name in years. Byron still turned the Hornets into a 56 win team.

Idk who is currently really out there that has accomplished as much as he did, that is rumored to be interviewing. Our 2 most accomplished guys in the search are a 42 win 6 seed coach and 43 win coach who missed the playoffs.

Funny... Scott lost his job in New Orleans because they did what you wished the Cavs had done to JBB after losing to the Nuggets rather than the Knicks in an embarrassing first round exit. CP3 got hurt and Scott was fired just 9 games in.

Just like with a player there's a lot that contributes to a successful coach and it's non trivial to sort it all out. Byron was old school and his insistence that his players fight through screens contributed to some Kyrie injuries.

Sound familiar?

But hey, at least JBB was more interested in coaching the team than hitting the golf course.

I mean, not really though. That is apples to oranges. One guy took a team to back to back Finals and was eventually fired. With his next team he wins 56 games and loses in game 7 of the second round, following it up by a 49 win season and being gentlemen swept, then eventually fired. Vs jb a guy who in 3 consecutive postseasons underperformed and won exactly 1 road playoff game. I don't see really anything to relate the 2 situations outside of they both coached in CLE at some point in their careers.

[JonFromVA]

Never knew that about Eddie, haven't heard that guy's name in years. Byron still turned the Hornets into a 56 win team.

Idk who is currently really out there that has accomplished as much as he did, that is rumored to be interviewing. Our 2 most accomplished guys in the search are a 42 win 6 seed coach and 43 win coach who missed the playoffs.

Funny... Scott lost his job in New Orleans because they did what you wished the Cavs had done to JBB after losing to the Nuggets rather than the Knicks in an embarrassing first round exit. CP3 got hurt and Scott was fired just 9 games in.

Just like with a player there's a lot that contributes to a successful coach and it's non trivial to sort it all out. Byron was old school and his insistence that his players fight through screens contributed to some Kyrie injuries.

Sound familiar?

But hey, at least JBB was more interested in coaching the team than hitting the golf course.

I mean, not really though. That is apples to oranges. One guy took a team to back to back Finals and was eventually fired. With his next team he wins 56 games and loses in game 7 of the second round, following it up by a 49 win season and being gentlemen swept, then eventually fired. Vs jb a guy who in 3 consecutive postseasons underperformed and won exactly 1 road playoff game. I don't see really anything to relate the 2 situations outside of they both coached in CLE at some point in their careers.

Even JBB would have scraped together more wins if he actually had a healthy roster, and Scott's record and reputation only got him one more shot after the Cavs.

Yes, he's an example of one of the two times the Cavs hired an experienced head coach (Paul Silas being the other), but you'd hope our FO would dig deeper to really examine what he's bringing besides a level of basic competency and old school attitude.

[JujitsuFlip]

Funny... Scott lost his job in New Orleans because they did what you wished the Cavs had done to JBB after losing to the Nuggets rather than the Knicks in an embarrassing first round exit. CP3 got hurt and Scott was fired just 9 games in.

Just like with a player there's a lot that contributes to a successful coach and it's non trivial to sort it all out. Byron was old school and his insistence that his players fight through screens contributed to some Kyrie injuries.

Sound familiar?

But hey, at least JBB was more interested in coaching the team than hitting the golf course.

I mean, not really though. That is apples to oranges. One guy took a team to back to back Finals and was eventually fired. With his next team he wins 56 games and loses in game 7 of the second round, following it up by a 49 win season and being gentlemen swept, then eventually fired. Vs jb a guy who in 3 consecutive postseasons underperformed and won exactly 1 road playoff game. I don't see really anything to relate the 2 situations outside of they both coached in CLE at some point in their careers.

Even JBB would have scraped together more wins if he actually had a healthy roster, and Scott's record and reputation only got him one more shot after the Cavs.

Yes, he's an example of one of the two times the Cavs hired an experienced head coach (Paul Silas being the other), but you'd hope our FO would dig deeper to really examine what he's bringing besides a level of basic competency and old school attitude.

My whole point is in the current search i don't even see anyone of his reputation or résumé accomplishments. In the early days the 2 closest are Kenny and Borrego.

[JonFromVA]

I mean, not really though. That is apples to oranges. One guy took a team to back to back Finals and was eventually fired. With his next team he wins 56 games and loses in game 7 of the second round, following it up by a 49 win season and being gentlemen swept, then eventually fired. Vs jb a guy who in 3 consecutive postseasons underperformed and won exactly 1 road playoff game. I don't see really anything to relate the 2 situations outside of they both coached in CLE at some point in their careers.

Even JBB would have scraped together more wins if he actually had a healthy roster, and Scott's record and reputation only got him one more shot after the Cavs.

Yes, he's an example of one of the two times the Cavs hired an experienced head coach (Paul Silas being the other), but you'd hope our FO would dig deeper to really examine what he's bringing besides a level of basic competency and old school attitude.

My whole point is in the current search i don't even see anyone of his reputation or résumé accomplishments. In the early days the 2 closest are Kenny and Borrego.

Well, with Budenholzer quickly taking the Suns offer, who else is there? We'll likely talk to David Joerger if we haven't already. Are we impressed by Frank Vogel's bubble championship?

It's why I was hoping the Cavs were back-channeling our new coach while contemplating firing Bickerstaff; but the players want change, so they'll get change and our new coach will likely have a lot to prove.

[JujitsuFlip]

Even JBB would have scraped together more wins if he actually had a healthy roster, and Scott's record and reputation only got him one more shot after the Cavs.

Yes, he's an example of one of the two times the Cavs hired an experienced head coach (Paul Silas being the other), but you'd hope our FO would dig deeper to really examine what he's bringing besides a level of basic competency and old school attitude.

My whole point is in the current search i don't even see anyone of his reputation or résumé accomplishments. In the early days the 2 closest are Kenny and Borrego.

Well, with Budenholzer quickly taking the Suns offer, who else is there? We'll likely talk to David Joerger if we haven't already. Are we impressed by Frank Vogel's bubble championship?

It's why I was hoping the Cavs were back-channeling our new coach while contemplating firing Bickerstaff; but the players want change, so they'll get change and our new coach will likely have a lot to prove.

If you notice Kenny and Borrego are lauded as offensive guys. Idk crap about Johnnie and Quinn is probably a more defensive focused guy is my assumption since he played and coached under Spo.

But i bet the new head coach is more offensive minded, since jb refused to run an actual offense.

[JonFromVA]

My whole point is in the current search i don't even see anyone of his reputation or résumé accomplishments. In the early days the 2 closest are Kenny and Borrego.

Well, with Budenholzer quickly taking the Suns offer, who else is there? We'll likely talk to David Joerger if we haven't already. Are we impressed by Frank Vogel's bubble championship?

It's why I was hoping the Cavs were back-channeling our new coach while contemplating firing Bickerstaff; but the players want change, so they'll get change and our new coach will likely have a lot to prove.

If you notice Kenny and Borrego are lauded as offensive guys. Idk crap about Johnnie and Quinn is probably a more defensive focused guy is my assumption since he played and coached under Spo.

But i bet the new head coach is more offensive minded, since jb refused to run an actual offense.

JBB didn't set the bar very high, but yes, we need to score than 100 pts per game in the playoffs and we'll be looking for our new coach to have a plan to help us get there.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/report-cavaliers-given-permission-to-interview-micah-nori-01hzfqxxpx52

Honestly, i gotta say, Nori may be the most intriguing name mentioned yet. Just as far as potential goes.

[JonFromVA]

https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/report-cavaliers-given-permission-to-interview-micah-nori-01hzfqxxpx52

Honestly, i gotta say, Nori may be the most intriguing name mentioned yet. Just as far as potential goes.

Raised in Middleburg, presumably wouldn't mind being closer to home.

Fedor expects us to also interview David Adelman, Dave Joerger, Alex Jensen, and Terry Stotts.

Nori would be a fun hire (so would JJ for that matter), just no clue how far in over his head he'd be. Same question with all the assistants and former players who've never had to run a team.

[toooskies]

https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/report-cavaliers-given-permission-to-interview-micah-nori-01hzfqxxpx52

Honestly, i gotta say, Nori may be the most intriguing name mentioned yet. Just as far as potential goes.

When your problem is you've got the 18th-ranked offense on a per-possession basis, the thing you absolutely have to do is get the guy from the team with the 16th-ranked offense.

(I have no opinions on Nori other than he might be the most entertaining hire, but I have no clue whether he'd be effective.)

[JonFromVA]

https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/report-cavaliers-given-permission-to-interview-micah-nori-01hzfqxxpx52

Honestly, i gotta say, Nori may be the most intriguing name mentioned yet. Just as far as potential goes.

When your problem is you've got the 18th-ranked offense on a per-possession basis, the thing you absolutely have to do is get the guy from the team with the 16th-ranked offense.

(I have no opinions on Nori other than he might be the most entertaining hire, but I have no clue whether he'd be effective.)

I hear JB Bickerstaff is available, he coached the 9th ranked offense just last year.

We're going to have to make our choice more on philosophy than performance I'm afraid, unless we want to wait and see who wins the finals and assume the top assistant on that team was the mastermind.

It's going to be an Alex Jensen .vs. Sam Cassell showdown!

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/report-cavaliers-given-permission-to-interview-micah-nori-01hzfqxxpx52

Honestly, i gotta say, Nori may be the most intriguing name mentioned yet. Just as far as potential goes.

When your problem is you've got the 18th-ranked offense on a per-possession basis, the thing you absolutely have to do is get the guy from the team with the 16th-ranked offense.

(I have no opinions on Nori other than he might be the most entertaining hire, but I have no clue whether he'd be effective.)

Hahaha no green font needed, understood.

Kinda hard to rate Kenny since Kerr is given a lot of credit for the Warriors system.

Same for Quinn, since he played under Spo doubt he can be given any credit, is he even a front of the bench assistant?

Since Thibs is defense, where does the Knicks offense rank?

I guess Borrego is being credited for the Pelicans, where are they?

Cavs had the worst offensive rating in the playoffs last season and the bottom 3 rated offensive rating in the playoffs this season, so maybe anything is up from there.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/report-cavaliers-given-permission-to-interview-micah-nori-01hzfqxxpx52

Honestly, i gotta say, Nori may be the most intriguing name mentioned yet. Just as far as potential goes.

Raised in Middleburg, presumably wouldn't mind being closer to home.

Fedor expects us to also interview David Adelman, Dave Joerger, Alex Jensen, and Terry Stotts.

Nori would be a fun hire (so would JJ for that matter), just no clue how far in over his head he'd be. Same question with all the assistants and former players who've never had to run a team.

When i read Adelman i thought to myself, that guy has to be 77 years old lol it is his son, idk anything about him.

Joerger left us mid season, so forget that guy lol

Stotts quit 4 months into his last gig, I'm good there. I think he is only being rumored because he used 2 undersized offensive minded guards in Portland for 9 seasons.

Idk anything about Jensen either.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://apnews.com/article/cavaliers-david-adelman-nuggets-a97af9060f5d1aa1ada6219c4fde25f1

You called it Jon.

Allegedly the Cavs want to interview up to 10 candidates. At least they're doing their due diligence.

[JonFromVA]

https://apnews.com/article/cavaliers-david-adelman-nuggets-a97af9060f5d1aa1ada6219c4fde25f1

You called it Jon.

Allegedly the Cavs want to interview up to 10 candidates. At least they're doing their due diligence.

At least that's leaked ... if Dan is back, surely they'll be talking to some candidates outside of NBA circles.

Becky Hammon is a name that hasn't come up this Summer in terms of an NBA job, and that would get the Cavs some headlines. They could also be reaching out to college and international coaches again to weight their interest.

If it's up to Koby, he may stay focused on the leaked list of top assistants / former head coaches.

[ijspeelman]

https://apnews.com/article/cavaliers-david-adelman-nuggets-a97af9060f5d1aa1ada6219c4fde25f1

You called it Jon.

Allegedly the Cavs want to interview up to 10 candidates. At least they're doing their due diligence.

At least that's leaked ... if Dan is back, surely they'll be talking to some candidates outside of NBA circles.

Becky Hammon is a name that hasn't come up this Summer in terms of an NBA job, and that would get the Cavs some headlines. They could also be reaching out to college and international coaches again to weight their interest.

If it's up to Koby, he may stay focused on the leaked list of top assistants / former head coaches.

No doubt that Hammon would make more in the NBA, but I wonder if she even considers leaving the Aces. The team is incredible and her culture has spread throughout the org.

Would be cool if we gave her a call tho

[JonFromVA]

https://apnews.com/article/cavaliers-david-adelman-nuggets-a97af9060f5d1aa1ada6219c4fde25f1

You called it Jon.

Allegedly the Cavs want to interview up to 10 candidates. At least they're doing their due diligence.

At least that's leaked ... if Dan is back, surely they'll be talking to some candidates outside of NBA circles.

Becky Hammon is a name that hasn't come up this Summer in terms of an NBA job, and that would get the Cavs some headlines. They could also be reaching out to college and international coaches again to weight their interest.

If it's up to Koby, he may stay focused on the leaked list of top assistants / former head coaches.

No doubt that Hammon would make more in the NBA, but I wonder if she even considers leaving the Aces. The team is incredible and her culture has spread throughout the org.

Would be cool if we gave her a call tho

Sure seems like it's something she wants and has pursued, so, it just comes down to whether she'd even consider the Cavs or if she's bidding her time until Pops retires or ?