2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0)

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Reminder that the Mavs lost game 1 in the Clippers & OKC series & also the Jazz & Suns series in 21' (they won all 4). The Mavs also lost Game 1 in the 2011 finals before they went on to win the Championship.

Jason Kidd has proven he is quite adept at making adjustments. Don't write the Mavs off yet.

The reminder isn't needed. No series is over after 1. Boston won game 1 of the 2022 Finals.

[SerialChiller]

I never see ads on this site.

Firefox FTW.

Might have to try, even now as I type using chrome the entire bottom of my screen is covered by a white ad that is like a bar across the screen taking up the bottom 2 inches. The ad blocker makes it not show but it still ruins the experience to the point I had to scroll down to even see the submit button!

Firefox is great for a LOT of sites. I usually have to go into NoScript and turn a couple of things on, but that's easy to learn how to do.

There are a few sites that can NOT be handled easily that way, so one needs to use a different browser for those.

I actually use three browsers, because I reserve Chrome for Gmail and a few sites I open from it, and don't want a lot of more dubious sites in the same browser I use for mail, banking, and other sensitive stuff.

What is the 3rd one you use? I actually have chrome, firefox and edge installed but only really use chrome. Edge to me was so slow but my windows 11 gaming PC I bought tried to say it was the best for it haha. Never used it again after 2 days of giving it a chance. FIrefox I have but I'm just used to Chrome I guess, usually ads aren't a problem but suddenly here they are now.

[Sweet Serenity]

A good video highlighting defensive lapses from Luka. This is what I was saying before game 1. Previously Mavs would hide him on Rudy, kyle Anderso, Josh Giddey etc. Now he’s forced to make multiple reads and rotations which just isn’t his game.

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This is the point about Luka and Jokic in PO. Yes, their offences are elite, but on defence they both are bad and hurt teams defences alot.

Of course you are going to jump out the first game Mavs lose just like to Clippers and OKC. The Mavs just don't pay $100M luxury tax yet to have an extra Durant level O and having DPoY Green and all-D level like Iguodala to help wipe ass from the behind. Just don't forget, Warriors also lost to Celtics in game 1 by 12 in 2022.

This is such a basic level type of response. Is the series over ? No, but bringing up the Clippers or OKC series or bringing up a series from 2 years ago means absolutely nothing for this series. The Celtics are just a really bad match up for the Mavs.

[sunsbg]

Reminder that the Mavs lost game 1 in the Clippers & OKC series & also the Jazz & Suns series in 21' (they won all 4). The Mavs also lost Game 1 in the 2011 finals before they went on to win the Championship.

Jason Kidd has proven he is quite adept at making adjustments. Don't write the Mavs off yet.

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

[Bob8]

Reminder that the Mavs lost game 1 in the Clippers & OKC series & also the Jazz & Suns series in 21' (they won all 4). The Mavs also lost Game 1 in the 2011 finals before they went on to win the Championship.

Jason Kidd has proven he is quite adept at making adjustments. Don't write the Mavs off yet.

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.
Kyrie had some bad scoring games in OKC series too but not with 19 shots.

[CodeBreaker]

Nothing has changed for me, Mavs in 6.

[ajones9219]

Reminder that the Mavs lost game 1 in the Clippers & OKC series & also the Jazz & Suns series in 21' (they won all 4). The Mavs also lost Game 1 in the 2011 finals before they went on to win the Championship.

Jason Kidd has proven he is quite adept at making adjustments. Don't write the Mavs off yet.

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but Key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday.

The Celtics are the ultimate game of whack a mole. Stop one player, two more show up and torch you.

Next game KP might score 10-15 but you get 35 from Tatum or 25 from white. Boston shot just under their league average tonight. They will end up having another few 45-50% from 3 nights.

The adjustment is simple. Pray Kyrie hits tough shots, Luka doesn't slow down, and Boston has a bad shooting game....all in the same game

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Reminder that the Mavs lost game 1 in the Clippers & OKC series & also the Jazz & Suns series in 21' (they won all 4). The Mavs also lost Game 1 in the 2011 finals before they went on to win the Championship.

Jason Kidd has proven he is quite adept at making adjustments. Don't write the Mavs off yet.

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.

The Mavs defense was very Tatum centric which really opened things up for the others. I'll be interested to watch Tatum if the focus shifts elsewhere.

There will be adjustments and I expect Mavs to be better, I'm just interested in what those adjustments will be.

[sunsbg]

Reminder that the Mavs lost game 1 in the Clippers & OKC series & also the Jazz & Suns series in 21' (they won all 4). The Mavs also lost Game 1 in the 2011 finals before they went on to win the Championship.

Jason Kidd has proven he is quite adept at making adjustments. Don't write the Mavs off yet.

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.

I've said a few times Kyrie is the x factor for Mavs and Luka winning titles/awards. The Cs though have limited him in two straight games now. As for KP he hit some tough midrange shots. It's not like Mavs didn't defend him well. On this team he can just stand behind 3pt line and hit shots, defend the rim on defense. No need to be a star, a good role player is enough.

[Bob8]

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.

I've said a few times Kyrie is the x factor for Mavs and Luka winning titles/awards. The Cs though have limited him in two straight games now. As for KP he hit some tough midrange shots. It's not like Mavs didn't defend him well. On this team he can just stand behind 3pt line and hit shots, defend the rim on defense. No need to be a star, a good role player is enough.

Did you see how more physical were they in second half on him? Kp never liked physicality.

Brown was far the best Celtics for me. He's getting MVP if Celtics win.

[sammo89]

The BEST odds you can get on the Celtics winning it all now are -400 (that's 1.25 in decimal odds)

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/basketball/nba/nba-championship/winner

The statisticians have seen enough, it's over. We should now move on to discussions of whether this Celtics team is a dynasty or not

[ajones9219]

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.

I've said a few times Kyrie is the x factor for Mavs and Luka winning titles/awards. The Cs though have limited him in two straight games now. As for KP he hit some tough midrange shots. It's not like Mavs didn't defend him well. On this team he can just stand behind 3pt line and hit shots, defend the rim on defense. No need to be a star, a good role player is enough.

Did you see how more physical were they in second half on him? Kp never liked physicality.

Brown was far the best Celtics for me.

I've watched KP all year. He literally doesn't care about physical defense. He was being fouled all game but the second half felt more about putting the ball in Brown/Tayums hands than anything the Mavs did

[durden_tyler]

Expected Vegas lines when the games shift to Dallas:

Mavericks to be favored by 2.5 points (They are 6 to 7 pt favorites in Games 1 and 2).

No, Vegas does not predict results but they are pretty good setting the expected quality of these teams-- those lines, i think is saying that Celtics will steal one of two in Dallas.

[Bob8]

Not writing Mavs off yet. They appear to play better with the series progressing. That said they need KP going down or something to have a real chance based on last two games played against Celtics. This Boston team is nothing like any of those 4 teams mentioned. More like '22 Warriors.

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.

The Mavs defense was very Tatum centric which really opened things up for the others. I'll be interested to watch Tatum if the focus shifts elsewhere.

There will be adjustments and I expect Mavs to be better, I'm just interested in what those adjustments will be.

Mavs made adjustments in second half already, but it was too late after being down 28.

They lost because KP was unstoppable in first half and Kyrie had the worst game in playoffs, missing wide open shots, which he normally doesn't miss.

I hope role players just takes those 3s in next game instead going in the paint and getting blocked.

[Sweet Serenity]

Nothing has changed for me, Mavs in 6.

Doncic +/- with BOS in last 5 games

11/23/2022 -13
01/05/2023 -20
01/22/2024 -13
03/01/2024 -20
06/06/2024 -10

Dallas lost 19.4pts on avg

[sunsbg]

I've said a few times Kyrie is the x factor for Mavs and Luka winning titles/awards. The Cs though have limited him in two straight games now. As for KP he hit some tough midrange shots. It's not like Mavs didn't defend him well. On this team he can just stand behind 3pt line and hit shots, defend the rim on defense. No need to be a star, a good role player is enough.

Did you see how more physical were they in second half on him? Kp never liked physicality.

Brown was far the best Celtics for me. He's getting MVP if Celtics win.

Bolded as you probably missed it. It's enough for KP drawing Mavs Cs away from the post and defend.

I like Brown more than Tatum so agree on MVP comment.

[ajones9219]

Kp was non existent in second half, when they were guarding him more physically. It was evident that Mavs didn't know what to do with him in first half, they were totally unprepared like they didn't expect him to play. Kp was always like that, let him few easy baskets and he will look like the best player in the world. Be aggressive with him and he will be just another dude.

Mavs will adjust, like they had in every series but key is Kyrie. Impossible to win anything with him playing like yesterday. If he doesn't show, series will be over quickly.

The Mavs defense was very Tatum centric which really opened things up for the others. I'll be interested to watch Tatum if the focus shifts elsewhere.

There will be adjustments and I expect Mavs to be better, I'm just interested in what those adjustments will be.

Mavs made adjustments in second half already, but it was too late after being down 28.

They lost because KP was unstoppable in first half and Kyrie had the worst game in playoffs, missing wide open shots, which he normally doesn't miss.

I hope role players just takes those 3s in next game instead going in the paint and getting blocked.

So what's the excuse going to be when game 2 goes literally the same as game 1? Luka with a lot of points, a -10 to -20 net rating and a Boston win by double figures

[Bob8]

I've said a few times Kyrie is the x factor for Mavs and Luka winning titles/awards. The Cs though have limited him in two straight games now. As for KP he hit some tough midrange shots. It's not like Mavs didn't defend him well. On this team he can just stand behind 3pt line and hit shots, defend the rim on defense. No need to be a star, a good role player is enough.

Did you see how more physical were they in second half on him? Kp never liked physicality.

Brown was far the best Celtics for me. He's getting MVP if Celtics win.

Bolded as you probably missed it. It's enough for KP drawing Mavs Cs away from the post and defend.

I like Brown more than Tatum so agree on MVP comment.

You don't need Lively on KP, it could be Kleber or Washington or even someone smaller, but you have to play aggressively on him before he gets the ball, risk some fouls too. In first half they just let him to take the position wherever he likes, he hit few shots and became hot. You can't defend those 30 ft shots anyway, but you can be aggressive on him.

[sunsbg]

Did you see how more physical were they in second half on him? Kp never liked physicality.

Brown was far the best Celtics for me. He's getting MVP if Celtics win.

Bolded as you probably missed it. It's enough for KP drawing Mavs Cs away from the post and defend.

I like Brown more than Tatum so agree on MVP comment.

You don't need Lively on KP, it could be Kleber or Washington or even someone smaller, but you have to play aggressively on him before he gets the ball, risk some fouls too. In first half they just let him to take the position wherever he likes, he hit few shots and became hot. You can't defend those 30 ft shots anyway, but you can be aggressive on him.

So you bench one of your more important players to get to the finals and play Kleber who hesitates to shoot open 3. Sounds like a plan.

[Bob8]

The Mavs defense was very Tatum centric which really opened things up for the others. I'll be interested to watch Tatum if the focus shifts elsewhere.

There will be adjustments and I expect Mavs to be better, I'm just interested in what those adjustments will be.

Mavs made adjustments in second half already, but it was too late after being down 28.

They lost because KP was unstoppable in first half and Kyrie had the worst game in playoffs, missing wide open shots, which he normally doesn't miss.

I hope role players just takes those 3s in next game instead going in the paint and getting blocked.

So what's the excuse going to be when game 2 goes literally the same as game 1? Luka with a lot of points, a -10 to -20 net rating and a Boston win by double figures

There's no excuses, if Boston wins, they're better team, hats down.

Mavs played more or less similarity in game 1 in Clippers and OKC series and didn't panic, I doubt they will start panic now.

You know how +/- work, you can't be in +, if your team is losing big. As you can't be in -, if your team is winning big, even if you play like ****. What was KP doing to the Mavs in first half has nothing to do with Tatum. He basically finished them alone with incredible performance in first half.