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2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27)

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With the Draft going to 2 Days. Would you like to see a 3rd Round added, for Two-Ways, etc?

Add a 3rd Round.
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Keep it at 2 Rounds.
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Add more than a 3rd Round.
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Post#1501 » by playa-hater » Wed Jun 5, 2024 2:49 am

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I actually like this, used to waste way too much time staying up for the second round.


I am so opposite that opinion.. Imagine watching the 1st day of the draft all night with Boston having the last pick, only to find out at the last moment Boston traded down and now I have to wait almost 24 hours to see what we get... :o :noway:
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1502 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 1:26 pm

playa-hater wrote:
165bows wrote:
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I actually like this, used to waste way too much time staying up for the second round.


I am so opposite that opinion.. Imagine watching the 1st day of the draft all night with Boston having the last pick, only to find out at the last moment Boston traded down and now I have to wait almost 24 hours to see what we get... :o :noway:

I agree. Why spread it out over two days….just make me wait to see what future all star we draft at 54. BS.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1503 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 5, 2024 1:49 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
165bows wrote:I actually like this, used to waste way too much time staying up for the second round.


I am so opposite that opinion.. Imagine watching the 1st day of the draft all night with Boston having the last pick, only to find out at the last moment Boston traded down and now I have to wait almost 24 hours to see what we get... :o :noway:

I agree. Why spread it out over two days….just make me wait to see what future all star we draft at 54. BS.

I don't mind the wait I just don't like the temptation to stay up that late to watch the nothing burger.

I do think the added time on the second round will help Brad - teams will fall in love with guys in the back of the second round and talk themselves into wasting future assets.

Though if they just drag the first round out super long and late I take it all back.
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Post#1504 » by shackles10 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 3:10 pm

While I don’t like it going super late I also usually watch it all just because I’m already committed. With it being two days now the commitment ends when I go to sleep and I bet viewership is way down switching on day 2. Especially with a 4pm start time, which is like lunch time on the west coast. I also feel for any guys who get invited and slip and have to wait until the next day. That’s way worse than the normal green room drama.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1505 » by shackles10 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 3:15 pm

165bows wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
I am so opposite that opinion.. Imagine watching the 1st day of the draft all night with Boston having the last pick, only to find out at the last moment Boston traded down and now I have to wait almost 24 hours to see what we get... :o :noway:

I agree. Why spread it out over two days….just make me wait to see what future all star we draft at 54. BS.

I don't mind the wait I just don't like the temptation to stay up that late to watch the nothing burger.

I do think the added time on the second round will help Brad - teams will fall in love with guys in the back of the second round and talk themselves into wasting future assets.

Though if they just drag the first round out super long and late I take it all back.


I’m not sure how they could drag out the first round any longer. IMO that’s most of the problem lol.
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Post#1506 » by redslastlaugh » Wed Jun 5, 2024 7:56 pm

Sam Vecenie of The Athletic new mock dropped today, Celtics picking Cam Christie, shooting guard.

He’s basically, along with Bub Carrington, the youngest American in the draft, at just under 19 yrs.

30. Boston Celtics

Cam Christie | 6-5 wing | 19 years old | Minnesota

Christie was the player I was most surprised to see remain in the draft after the early-entry deadline. He was arguably the highest-profile player left in the NCAA’s transfer portal, so he must have turned down significant NIL offers to make this call. That makes me a bit more suspicious that he he got the kind of assurance he needed to stay in the draft.

Boston, by and large, does not issue draft-pick promises to prospects under Brad Stevens. However, Christie would make an enormous amount of sense for them as a young wing who can really shoot and gives real effort on defense. He averaged 11.3 points as a freshman this season at Minnesota, but upped those numbers to 13 points and 38 percent on six 3-point attempts per game over his final 15 games. With the importance of shooting in Boston’s style of play, and with how much money the Celtics will have on the books moving forward if they sign Derrick White to a long-term deal, they will need more players like Christie who can come in and make shots.




Here is a longer, more in-depth highlight video. The guy has a nice release on the jumper, I’ll give,him that…

;t=30s
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Post#1507 » by djFan71 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 3:35 am

Updated Ringer mock has us with a couple of guards.

30: AJ Johnson
54: Zyon Pullin

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

30. Johnson is receiving some late first-round buzz following an impressive performance at the draft combine. Though he’s raw, the Celtics have a lot of depth as is, and it could make sense for them to take a swing here.

54. The Celtics re-signed Payton Pritchard last fall, but that shouldn’t stop them from taking a chance on a player who could end up being better. Pullin is a knockdown shooter, and his size gives him defensive versatility. If his ball handling translates, then he could earn minutes sooner rather than later.


Can't say I love it. Lots of other guys still on the board at 30.

Ajay Mitchell still on the board at 54. Ringer has him way higher on their big board (32) than Pullin (50), but opt not for him to go til 57. Jaylen Wells last at 58. Pullin is intriguing, though, from their full write up.
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Post#1508 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Jun 6, 2024 4:29 am

I don’t love this draft for us from The Ringer.

AJ Johnson seems the proverbial two years away from two years away. And he’s just awfully light at under 170lbs, those type of guards, speedy athletic slim, may make a comeback tho but man they give up so much defensively to get excited about drafting. I wouldn’t take him.

And then KOC is the only media member who has Zyon Pullin as a draftable player, he seems more like an undrafted FA target than a player to spend a pick on.

djFan71 wrote:Updated Ringer mock has us with a couple of guards.

30: AJ Johnson
54: Zyon Pullin

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

30. Johnson is receiving some late first-round buzz following an impressive performance at the draft combine. Though he’s raw, the Celtics have a lot of depth as is, and it could make sense for them to take a swing here.

54. The Celtics re-signed Payton Pritchard last fall, but that shouldn’t stop them from taking a chance on a player who could end up being better. Pullin is a knockdown shooter, and his size gives him defensive versatility. If his ball handling translates, then he could earn minutes sooner rather than later.


Can't say I love it. Lots of other guys still on the board at 30.

Ajay Mitchell still on the board at 54. Ringer has him way higher on their big board (32) than Pullin (50), but opt not for him to go til 57. Jaylen Wells last at 58. Pullin is intriguing, though, from their full write up.
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Post#1509 » by djFan71 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 4:38 am

redslastlaugh wrote:I don’t love this draft for us from The Ringer.

AJ Johnson seems the proverbial two years away from two years away. And he’s just awfully light at under 170lbs, those type of guards, speedy athletic slim, may make a comeback tho but man they give up so much defensively to get excited about drafting. I wouldn’t take him.

And then KOC is the only media member who has Zyon Pullin as a draftable player, he seems more like an undrafted FA target than a player to spend a pick on.

Yeah, exactly. Lots of mocks like Johnson but it's all based on what he could be in x years, not anything he's done. I'm liking Ajay Mitchell lately, and they have him 32 (big board), but we pass on him to take Pullin at 54 rather than target as UDFA.
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Post#1510 » by djFan71 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:58 am

For the heck of it, here's my weird big board groupings. Overall, not fit with Cs, for the most part. Players are in order within each group.

Guys I'd take 1st round:
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Alex Sarr
Ron Holland
Devin Carter
Stephon Castle
Zaccharie Risacher
Cody Williams
Tristan Da Silva
Daron Holmes II
Donovan Clingan
Jared McCain
Dalton Knecht
Tyler Kolek
Jaylon Tyson
Reed Sheppard
Ja'Kobe Walter

Mocked 1st round guys I'd avoid - too much bust potential or I don't know enough about or have a sexual assault charge
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Kel'el Ware
Yves Missi
Tidjane Salaun
Matas Buzelis
Nikola Topic
Rob Dillingham
Isaiah Collier
Bobi Klintman
AJ Johnson
Carlton Carrington
Zach Edey
Nikola Djurisic
Pcaome Dadiet
Trentyn Flowers
Tyler Smith
Kyle Filipowski
Johnny Furphy
Ryan Dunn
Terrence Shannon Jr

Upper half 2nd Round guys
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Ulrich Chomche
Kyshawn George
Ajay Mitchell
Cameron Christie
Melvin Ajinca
Jalen Bridges
Keshad Johnson
Jaylen Wells
Baylor Scheierman
Harrison Ingram
Kevin McCullar Jr
KJ Simpson

Pick 54 Options
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Oso Ighodaro
Jonathan Mogbo
Adem Bona
Enrique Freeman
Tristen Newton
Dillon Jones
Pelle Larsson
PJ Hall
Justin Edwards
Jamal Shead
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Post#1511 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 2:19 pm

djFan71 wrote:I'm liking Ajay Mitchell lately, and they have him 32 (big board), but we pass on him to take Pullin at 54 rather than target as UDFA.

Eh, idk. I've got Mitchell ranked 55th on my board, at the moment. Wouldn't hate it if we took him in like the 50-60 range.

But I'm not too high on him.

I think his stats make him look better than he is, because he's an older prospect (age 22) playing vs weak competition in a mid major conference. And he was on a team where the offense was built around him, he got to take all the shots, had the ball in his hands all the time.

But in the combine scrimmages (vs real competition) I thought he looked okay. Was able to get to the basket and finish near the rim pretty well. Can handle the ball. But didn't shoot it well in the scrimmages.

His defense is okay..

He's a pretty good prospect. But I think there's others who are better..and I'd prefer drafting someone with more size, like a wing/PF/C..
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Post#1512 » by djFan71 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 3:27 pm

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djFan71 wrote:I'm liking Ajay Mitchell lately, and they have him 32 (big board), but we pass on him to take Pullin at 54 rather than target as UDFA.

Eh, idk. I've got Mitchell ranked 55th on my board, at the moment. Wouldn't hate it if we took him in like the 50-60 range.

But I'm not too high on him.

I think his stats make him look better than he is, because he's an older prospect (age 22) playing vs weak competition in a mid major conference. And he was on a team where the offense was built around him, he got to take all the shots, had the ball in his hands all the time.

But in the combine scrimmages (vs real competition) I thought he looked okay. Was able to get to the basket and finish near the rim pretty well. Can handle the ball. But didn't shoot it well in the scrimmages.

His defense is okay..

He's a pretty good prospect. But I think there's others who are better..and I'd prefer drafting someone with more size, like a wing/PF/C..

Yeah, that's the fun of it. I toyed with adding him to my 1st round section, but ultimately didn't. I think he's an option if we trade back with someone like POR and have a couple picks in the 1st half the 2nd round. If he lasts to 54, I'd be excited (depending on who we got earlier), but I'm guessing he goes earlier. I definitely want size as well first, so this would be assuming he's our 2nd pick.

Mitchell has good size for a combo guard and can get to the basket like you said. Shooting was pretty solid over the course of the year, but can he get it off clean against NBA talent? If he was and it just didn't go in at the combine, I can live with that. If he was struggling to get clean looks due to slow/low release, that's a different matter. Other than that, I get the older/non-major conference thing with him (and Holmes too). But, I'm OK with that. I tend to like that better than going with a super young guy playing 8 minutes per game who looks tantalizing. Not that I don't get tantalized, lol. :)
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Post#1513 » by Parliament10 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 8:20 pm

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I like it.
It's setup perfectly to add another round.

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Post#1514 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 7, 2024 4:00 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Sam Vecenie of The Athletic new mock dropped today, Celtics picking Cam Christie, shooting guard.

He’s basically, along with Bub Carrington, the youngest American in the draft, at just under 19 yrs.

30. Boston Celtics

Cam Christie | 6-5 wing | 19 years old | Minnesota

Christie was the player I was most surprised to see remain in the draft after the early-entry deadline. He was arguably the highest-profile player left in the NCAA’s transfer portal, so he must have turned down significant NIL offers to make this call. That makes me a bit more suspicious that he he got the kind of assurance he needed to stay in the draft.

Boston, by and large, does not issue draft-pick promises to prospects under Brad Stevens. However, Christie would make an enormous amount of sense for them as a young wing who can really shoot and gives real effort on defense. He averaged 11.3 points as a freshman this season at Minnesota, but upped those numbers to 13 points and 38 percent on six 3-point attempts per game over his final 15 games. With the importance of shooting in Boston’s style of play, and with how much money the Celtics will have on the books moving forward if they sign Derrick White to a long-term deal, they will need more players like Christie who can come in and make shots.




Here is a longer, more in-depth highlight video. The guy has a nice release on the jumper, I’ll give,him that…

;t=30s


I will always want the best player available but I am just hoping it isn't another guard.. I will take a wing forward a big forward or a center If all the talent level is the same...

But looking at the highlights he does seem to be legit..
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Post#1515 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 7, 2024 4:02 am

I am still so high after Boston's game one victory I'm literally going to spend some time looking at prospects now.. :D
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Post#1516 » by keevsnick1 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:15 am

Wouldn't mind Cam Christie.

Whomever the C's draft should project as somebody who can A) Defend well enough to not be hunted and B) be respected from three enough to be guarded. If you want a prospect to have any shot of actually contributing to the team in the near term they need to do those two things. 3+D. Christie seems to have those building blocks with solid size (6'4.5 and 6'8 wingspan) and good shooting numbers in his one college season (39% from 3, 79% from FT). He has the benefit of also being VERY young, not turning 19 until July.
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Post#1517 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:06 pm

Looked at quite a few Mocks and it seems like Bobi Klintman may be available (40% my guess) still have yet to study his videos. But Any thoughts on Bobi K as an eventual Horford replacement?? seems to have some decent potential.
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Post#1518 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:10 pm

Trade 30 and 54 for 5 more years of 38 year old Al Horford.
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Post#1519 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:08 pm

playa-hater wrote:Looked at quite a few Mocks and it seems like Bobi Klintman may be available (40% my guess) still have yet to study his videos. But Any thoughts on Bobi K as an eventual Horford replacement?? seems to have some decent potential.

I mean, anything is possible. He's fairly similar in size to Al (but about 30 lbs lighter) and has shown flashes of shooting, interior defense and perimeter defense.

He also can handle the ball decently well and has shown some passing flashes.

The downside is:

a) he's shown flashes of those things. But hasn't really shown any of them consistently..and he was pretty turnover-prone this season..it'll kind of being a development project in order to get him to the point where he is showing those those things consistently enough - especially for him to see the floor on a team as good as the Celtics

b) He's 21 yrs old. Which is kind of old for a development project. By age 21, ideally you're drafting a guy who is less of a project, and closer to being able to contribute.

I might take a flier on him in the 50-60 range, but probably wouldn't take him higher than that - think we can do better if we're drafting higher..
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Post#1520 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:56 pm

Mock that just got posted, by Bleacher report:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10123676-2024-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-and-pro-comparisons

Yet another mock that has us taking Holmes at 30.

They have Tyson at 27, Furphy 28 and Dadiet 29.

They have Scheirman at 32, so he *could* be a guy we look at with pick 30 *if* we keep that pick..which I doubt happens but you never know. We have brought Scheierman in for a workout.

The other 2 guys I like: they have Djurisic at 42 and Wells at 50. My personal big board, I currently have Tyson at 16, Djurisic at 19, Scheierman at 22 and Wells at 24. So I'd be pumped with any of those guys. Seems like a good chance that none will be available at pick 54. Tyson will be probably gone by pick 30. So we could possibly get to choose between Scheierman, Djurisic and Wellsat 30 (if we keep that pick).

However, the only 1 of those guys we've worked out is Scheierman. And we'll probably trade pick 30 too..

Looking at where guys are being projected (and the likelihood that we trade pick 30), I'm thinking that we probably just trade pick 30 and draft Ingram at 54..

If that's what we do, I'd be fine with it..but I wouldn't be over the moon..
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