2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[grant101]

2 and a half hours of Ulrich Chomche film. There are some sickos out there!

That whole channel is great. You can see 2+ hours of film on every prospect. Both highlights and lowlights.

Ya, it's great that its not just a highlight session. I watched a lil of this one and bookmarked it for later. The first 5 minutes I watched mans is having such a hard time putting anything down around the rim. If anyone has a body on him everything is rimming out.

Is it in chronological order?

Yep. Confirms what I saw when I looked into him. RAW. I honestly don't think he starts on a lot of high major college teams. He's really leaning on the "man of mystery" thing

[ForeverTFC]

If Edey is on the board somehow towards end of lotto Masai needs to a grow a pair and use Bruce Brown and #31 to move into position to get him.

Apparently, Edey is working out with Miami and Lakers. So, if they did want him, might have to trade up. Something this front office hasn't done in the past.

100%, I posted a while ago about how much sense Edey makes for the Heat as he is proficient in almost every area Miami is weak at PLUS fits perfectly given their pace of play. There is zero chance IMO that Edey makes it to 19. Zero. Despite what mock drafts would have you believe.

Masai needs to stop being a pansy and trade up for him. Draft value chart suggests 19 + 31 = about #10 overall and when you consider the value of having the 1st pick on the 2nd day it could easily be worth #9.

If Memphis doesn't like what's on the board send them 19, 31 and Bruce Brown and take Edey, maybe get pick #39 coming back too.

What if they don't have a good draft grade on him?

[Risk101]

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[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I was having a very long discussion with a guy about Tyler Smith and he convinced me to buy on him. Smith is the mold that you want to bet on if you're going to be throwing a dart on a GLI player. There are things about him that are pretty unappealing, for one he comes off as a bit dumb and obviously it's going to take some work for him to become an adequate team defender. He also is really shaky putting the ball on the floor for more than a couple of dribbles.

But if you look beyond that he can shoot the ball over just about anyone, his shot preparation and mechanics are really good and he excels with the pick and pop. There is real potential that he can just eventually work his way to certain spots on the floor and score on just about anyone with a shot incapable of being defended.

Ultimately he got to the line at a good rate, got stocks, is an adequate rebounder for a PF and doesn't have TOV issues. There are only so many 6'11 7'1 wingspan guys at 19 years old who display the kind of shooting ability that he does. He's like a lower IQ version of Taylor Hendricks/GG Jackson. Smith might never display their assertiveness and overall polish and always be a step behind them but he could fit in really well as a starter down the line.

He’s 6’9 with an 8’9 standing reach. Weird thing is that there are a bunch of shorter guys with shorter wingspans that have a higher standing reach than him. There were about 17 SF/PF’s at the combine with a higher standing reach than him.

Oh yeah I just saw that. Still 6'9 w/o shoes he will be a listed 6'10 in the NBA. His value will stem from his shooting above all else. His prep and feel for shooting is at the top of the draft class. All he needs to do to become a solid starter is work to become mediocre at everything else. He has a very high value archetype, even the bigs who shoot well don't look nearly as smooth and coordinated as Smith does with his stroke. Granted he is hardstuck as a FT shooter just like Risacher so who knows. But between the GLI guys he makes the most sense to me.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Apparently, Edey is working out with Miami and Lakers. So, if they did want him, might have to trade up. Something this front office hasn't done in the past.

100%, I posted a while ago about how much sense Edey makes for the Heat as he is proficient in almost every area Miami is weak at PLUS fits perfectly given their pace of play. There is zero chance IMO that Edey makes it to 19. Zero. Despite what mock drafts would have you believe.

Masai needs to stop being a pansy and trade up for him. Draft value chart suggests 19 + 31 = about #10 overall and when you consider the value of having the 1st pick on the 2nd day it could easily be worth #9.

If Memphis doesn't like what's on the board send them 19, 31 and Bruce Brown and take Edey, maybe get pick #39 coming back too.

What if they don't have a good draft grade on him?

You don't wait for things to happen in life, you make them happen.

[Syd-TK3]

Watched the first 7 minutes of that Chomche video and he looks like he just picked up a basketball yesterday

[TimeForChange]

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no way he falls to 17 but if he does, Masai better trade up for him.

a fall that far makes no sense.

[Rapsfan07]

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no way he falls to 17 but if he does, Masai better trade up for him.

a fall that far makes no sense.

I'm calling BS. Unless he has Brandon Roy knees that no one knows about yet, there's no way he slips out of the Top 10 in a draft like this. Literally no way

[Rapsfan07]

Watched the first 7 minutes of that Chomche video and he looks like he just picked up a basketball yesterday

Yep. I never understood the Chomche love.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Syd-TK3]

Watched the first 7 minutes of that Chomche video and he looks like he just picked up a basketball yesterday

Yep. I never understood the Chomche love.

I mean the defense is there and the physical profile is great but he's all theory and upside.
So at best he's literally another bruno 2 years away from being 2 years away situation

[Pointgod]

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no way he falls to 17 but if he does, Masai better trade up for him.

a fall that far makes no sense.

Sounds like he could be another Cam Whitmore.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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no way he falls to 17 but if he does, Masai better trade up for him.

a fall that far makes no sense.

Sounds like he could be another Cam Whitmore.

I hope not. Cam Whitmore is empty stats.

[DreamTeam09]

Right now I think BPA & BFA in our range is Tyler Smith.

Good mix of size skill need & potential

BFA=Best Fit Available

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

no way he falls to 17 but if he does, Masai better trade up for him.

a fall that far makes no sense.

Sounds like he could be another Cam Whitmore.

I hope not. Cam Whitmore is empty stats.

He's a scorer, you need another guy who is a hub on your team but when you need a bucket you give it to him and let him go to work. He's actually a lot closer to Jaylen Brown than Holland will ever be.

Whitmore had some impressive performances. The expectation is he'll remain a crap FT shooter and also have a crap AST:TO which is what will limit him like Brown. But he at least has some kind of potential to improve in those areas which is more than you can say about Brown.

Holland right now is looking like a more primitive version of Tari Eason whose development hopefully brings him to something around Eason's level by 21-22 y/o.

[DreamTeam09]

I'm lying, the best 3+D player in our range is Tristan De Silva, and he's 6'8+ take him all day if he's there.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Sounds like he could be another Cam Whitmore.

I hope not. Cam Whitmore is empty stats.

He's a scorer, you need another guy who is a hub on your team but when you need a bucket you give it to him and let him go to work. He's actually a lot closer to Jaylen Brown than Holland will ever be.

Whitmore had some impressive performances. The expectation is he'll remain a crap FT shooter and also have a crap AST:TO which is what will limit him like Brown. But he at least has some kind of potential to improve in those areas which is more than you can say about Brown.

Holland right now is looking like a more primitive version of Tari Eason whose development hopefully brings him to something around Eason's level by 21-22 y/o.

I’m not necessarily a fan of Holland, but I’m less of a fan of Whitmore. He doesn’t move me at all. There’s a reason he dropped like he did. NBA GM’s saw the lack of value in his game. He just puts up stats to put up stats. Wins don’t follow.

[PhilBlackson]

I think I’m really starting to warm up to the idea of drafting KYSHAWN GEORGE lol

I still like Bub, Ware, Collier the most buuuut…

Even though he’s not fast it’s hard not to be REALLY intrigued by his feel for the game & one THE biggest key traits - seems to PLAY AT HIS OWN PACE. Of course I’m not suggesting that he’ll be like those who are ELITE (key distinction) at it but he has good potential.

At minimum that sort of feel and ability to play off of teammates theoretically should be a nice fit with Scottie & Gradey long term. I don’t know enough about him defensively but I’m kinda buying in more as I watch his highlights a bit closer. At minimum he should find a way to fit in well offensively at SF where I could see guys making a bunch of good read & reaction plays which is THE way to have a defence disjointed. If he’s good enough to defend 2 through 4 at a reasonable level, I kinda like the play because at minimum he should just be a decent glue piece, if he adds more stuff to his bag where he can continue to increase what he’s able to do while playing at his own pace, he could much better than expected.

[Mark_83]

I think I’m really starting to warm up to the idea of drafting KYSHAWN GEORGE lol

I still like Bub, Ware, Collier the most buuuut…

Even though he’s not fast it’s hard not to be REALLY intrigued by his feel for the game & one THE biggest key traits - seems to PLAY AT HIS OWN PACE. Of course I’m not suggesting that he’ll be like those who are ELITE (key distinction) at it but he has good potential.

At minimum that sort of feel and ability to play off of teammates theoretically should be a nice fit with Scottie & Gradey long term. I don’t know enough about him defensively but I’m kinda buying in more as I watch his highlights a bit closer. At minimum he should find a way to fit in well offensively at SF where I could see guys making a bunch of good read & reaction plays which is THE way to have a defence disjointed. If he’s good enough to defend 2 through 4 at a reasonable level, I kinda like the play because at minimum he should just be a decent glue piece, if he adds more stuff to his bag where he can continue to increase what he’s able to do while playing at his own pace, he could much better than expected.

He reminds me of Delano Banton, but with the ability to shoot.