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NBA FINALS, Gm 2 – Mavericks (0) @ Celtics (1) – 8:00PM, Sun, June 9, 2024

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Re: NBA FINALS, Gm 2 – Mavericks (0) @ Celtics (1) – 8:00PM, Sun, June 9, 2024 

Post#81 » by 165bows » Sat Jun 8, 2024 11:13 am

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Fierce1 wrote:I heard ESPN guys calling it variance.

Well they did shoot very poorly from wide open threes (30.8% on 13) whereas we shot pretty normally (38.9% on 18) but even if you give them 38.9% they score 3 more points. This isn't like the Miami series where Miami shot damn near 60% from wide open threes. Also a full third of their threes were after 7 dribbles or more, on which they went 1-9. We had 31 catch and shoot threes and they had 13.

Something to be said for just not shooting well when the other team has you on the back foot though. We’ve seen it when the Celtics have gotten knocked out the last two years.
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Post#82 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Jun 8, 2024 11:28 am

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London2Boston wrote:I can see Dallas shooting way more 3s in Game 2 and just hoping they catch fire. Hopefully we don’t have a cold night.

The way Dallas plays and the way the Cs defend, it's hard to shoot a lot of 3s, if you're Dallas.


Anybody can shoot a highly contested 3 whenever he chooses, and Doncic or Irving might so choose.

Also, the Cs have been conceding open above-the-break 3s to guys that have generally been turning the shot opportunities down.
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Post#83 » by Fierce1 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 11:31 am

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London2Boston wrote:I can see Dallas shooting way more 3s in Game 2 and just hoping they catch fire. Hopefully we don’t have a cold night.

The way Dallas plays and the way the Cs defend, it's hard to shoot a lot of 3s, if you're Dallas.


Anybody can shoot a highly contested 3 whenever he chooses, and Doncic or Irving might so choose.

Also, the Cs have been conceding open above-the-break 3s to guys that have generally been turning the shot opportunities down.

Yeah, but that's not how they played in the playoffs.

I still think they will stick to what they do best.

Chucking more 3s will just make them more confused, IMO.
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Post#84 » by Birdon » Sat Jun 8, 2024 11:46 am

Game barely started and White with some 5 attempts, shooting 3s like fts. Whole team followed suit and first quarter was a complete onslaught.

After facing bug man and Wolves sluggish game, must have been a rude awakening for the Mavs.
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Post#85 » by Gant » Sat Jun 8, 2024 12:50 pm

Celtics fan flustered Kyrie Irving in shouting match, per announcer

According to NBC Sports Boston’s Mike Gorman, Irving was getting into it with a C’s fans during Game 1 as part of a shouting match. Gorman made his comments on 98.5′s Toucher and Hardy show Friday.

“Kyrie is now 0-11 against the Celtics was really sad last night,” Gorman said. “He was very busy during the game. I’ve never seen this. He had a running dialogue with a guy in the sixth row. He’s running up and down the court, and he’s yelling at this guy. It’s just crazy.

“The guy kept on him,” Gorman continued. “And then Kyrie started looking at this guy and pointing at him and mouthing at this guy. Next thing you know, the ball inbounds and Kyrie’s dealing with this guy. It went on for maybe two or three possessions. On one possession, he made a couple moves, he couldn’t do anything and decided to turn around and decided to go back-and-forth with the guy again. It was crazy. I’ve never really seen that.”


https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2024/06/celtics-fan-flustered-kyrie-irving-in-shouting-match-per-announcer.html
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Post#86 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 8, 2024 12:56 pm

Gant wrote:Celtics fan flustered Kyrie Irving in shouting match, per announcer

According to NBC Sports Boston’s Mike Gorman, Irving was getting into it with a C’s fans during Game 1 as part of a shouting match. Gorman made his comments on 98.5′s Toucher and Hardy show Friday.

“Kyrie is now 0-11 against the Celtics was really sad last night,” Gorman said. “He was very busy during the game. I’ve never seen this. He had a running dialogue with a guy in the sixth row. He’s running up and down the court, and he’s yelling at this guy. It’s just crazy.

“The guy kept on him,” Gorman continued. “And then Kyrie started looking at this guy and pointing at him and mouthing at this guy. Next thing you know, the ball inbounds and Kyrie’s dealing with this guy. It went on for maybe two or three possessions. On one possession, he made a couple moves, he couldn’t do anything and decided to turn around and decided to go back-and-forth with the guy again. It was crazy. I’ve never really seen that.”


https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2024/06/celtics-fan-flustered-kyrie-irving-in-shouting-match-per-announcer.html



I heard that the Celtics fans weren't even that loud.
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Post#88 » by Yinwest » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:11 pm

People on KP: Having KP return is like having Wemby on the Celtics LMAO.
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I do expect they'll shoot better, although we'll again try and wear down Luka on both ends.
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Always been pretty bush league.
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Post#96 » by canman1971 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 5:10 pm

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Always been pretty bush league.

He has always been a douche who has never won anything.
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Post#97 » by bisme37 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 5:11 pm

Some notes on the Celtics Game 1 defense from the email NBA.com sent this morning...


Boston played Luka one-on-one for much of the night, but mixed up its coverages just enough to not let Luka get comfortable.

Double Teams: As the Celtics built their 29-point lead in the 1st half (and rebuilt it back to 20 at the end of the 3rd quarter), they only double-teamed Luka five times. Then, they doubled him four times in his seven 4th-quarter minutes to prevent one final run

The Mavs scored just 0.78 points per possession when Luka was doubled, compared to 0.98 on all other possessions

Switching: Luka drew a game-high 31 on-ball switches in Game 1, in which Dallas scored 1.12 points per possession compared to 0.88 points per possession without a Luka switch

Boston’s switching led to Luka being defended by Boston’s bigs, which Luka tried to exploit – 15 of his 26 shot attempts came in the 2:12 of matchup time he had against Al Horford and Kristaps Porzingis.

Horford held Luka to two points on 1-of-8 shooting (0-of-4 from 3) with one block, while Porzingis allowed 13 pts on 5-of-7 shooting (3-of-4 from 3) to his former teammate

Luka’s two primary defenders – Jaylen Brown (7 minutes) and Jrue Holiday (2:15) – combined to allow 10 points on 5-of-9 shooting with two turnovers

By playing Luka one-on-one and staying home on Dallas’ shooters, the Celtics forced the Mavs into historically-low playmaking.

As John Schuhmann noted in his Game 1 film study, Dallas’ 25.7% assist rate was the lowest for any team in any game in the last seven seasons.
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Post#99 » by Yinwest » Sat Jun 8, 2024 5:35 pm

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Joe should say the same thing about Kyrie lol.
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