Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster

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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#21 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:51 pm

I never pay attention to the WNBA, but just on the surface, this seems utterly insane... Could you imagine if they left say, rookie LeBron off the team usa roster?
For a group always whining about equal pay, they're sure doing everything they can to sabotage whatever chance they had at generating the kind of excitement necessary to challenge the popularity of the men...

Meanwhile male stars are taking seasons off if they don't get the respect they think they deserve... :noway:
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#22 » by cupcakesnake » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:52 pm

I can't believe how annoying it's been in year 1 to have this strange segment of fans who know nothing about the WNBA and are following it through the myopic lens of a single college star.

While there has been no official news on the team USA roster, the expected roster is made up entirely of elite veterans. The youngest players on the proposed roster are Jackie Young and Sabrina Ionescu (both 26 and in their 6th and 5th years in the league, respectively).

We're talking a team made of only WNBA all-stars and no young players. Caitlin Clark is not a good WNBA player yet. She's incredibly promising but she's having a tough time as a high-usage, net negative, playing for a very young team.

This should be non news. It's like Scoot Henderson being left of the men's team.
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#23 » by bisme37 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:53 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:I can't believe how annoying it's been in year 1 to have this strange segment of fans who know nothing about the WNBA and are following it through the myopic lens of a single college star.

While there has been no official news on the team USA roster, the expected roster is made up entirely of elite veterans. The youngest players on the proposed roster are Jackie Young and Sabrina Ionescu (both 26 and in their 6th and 5th years in the league, respectively).

We're talking a team made of only WNBA all-stars and no young players. Caitlin Clark is not a good WNBA player yet. She's incredibly promising but she's having a tough time as a high-usage, net negative, playing for a very young team.

This should be non news. It's like Scoot Henderson being left of the men's team.


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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#24 » by cupcakesnake » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:55 pm

Kilroy wrote:I never pay attention to the WNBA, but just on the surface, this seems utterly insane... Could you imagine if they left say, rookie LeBron off the team usa roster?
For a group always whining about equal pay, they're sure doing everything they can to sabotage whatever chance they had at generating the kind of excitement necessary to challenge the popularity of the men...

Meanwhile male stars are taking seasons off if they don't get the respect they think they deserve... :noway:


There are no rookies, (or even second, third, or 4th year players) on the women's roster, which was reported by the Athletic.

Clark is not currently as good as the players going in their stead.

The Men's team does often bring a couple of young up and comers to grow in the program. The women's team this year is clearly just trying to bring the best current American players. It's not "utterly insane".

If you say you never pay attention to the WNBA, why have such a strong opinion on this?
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#25 » by Rainwater » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:55 pm

I feel like people want her on team USA because of her popularity but if we were being honest there are players who are better than her right now. Yes, her being on team USA would be nice but the best should go and she is not one of them right now. She is just a rookie.
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#26 » by azcatz11 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:55 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:I can't believe how annoying it's been in year 1 to have this strange segment of fans who know nothing about the WNBA and are following it through the myopic lens of a single college star.

While there has been no official news on the team USA roster, the expected roster is made up entirely of elite veterans. The youngest players on the proposed roster are Jackie Young and Sabrina Ionescu (both 26 and in their 6th and 5th years in the league, respectively).

We're talking a team made of only WNBA all-stars and no young players. Caitlin Clark is not a good WNBA player yet. She's incredibly promising but she's having a tough time as a high-usage, net negative, playing for a very young team.

This should be non news. It's like Scoot Henderson being left of the men's team.


No that’s not a good analogy because people will always be interested in the men’s game. This is a way to promote interest in the women’s game like Tiger did for golf in the late 90s and they’re not capitalizing for unknown reasons.
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#27 » by bisme37 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:55 pm

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bisme37 wrote:She's been struggling hard as a WNBA rookie and there's a massive hoopla wherever she goes which would be very distracting for Team USA. Honestly it would have felt kinda gimmicky to have her on the team. In 4 years she'll be at the Olympics but I get the decision to leave her off this time around.

She’s had a lot of turnovers with the ball in her hands immediately, but she was Rookie of the Month, the second player ever to average 15-5-5 in her first month, and tied the rookie three point record (7) last night in her 30 point game. They could have easily justified a spot.

But her impact goes far beyond her stats. Just like in the WNBA, the other players should be profiting from her popularity as she grows the league, not complaining about it. This was a massive blown opportunity to help the WNBA, and they have only emphasized their own pettiness.


USA Women's basketball has won like 500 gold medals in a row. They don't need or care about her popularity (or shouldn't imo). The team isn't NBC trying to get ratings. They are trying to win gold. Clark is just not at Olympic level yet as a player.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#28 » by EmpireFalls » Sat Jun 8, 2024 3:55 pm

lol they really hate her man
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#29 » by Jeremy Lin 7 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:00 pm

People agreeing with this decision fail to see the bigger picture. When was the last time WNBA or Women's basketball got this much attention before CC? You bring her on the team for marketing and brand awareness. And it's not like she can't play either.

Be real no one is watching the Women's USA Basketball team without Clark :lol:
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#30 » by Pharmcat » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:03 pm

Sofia wrote:Not sure how accurate it is, but saw it suggested elsewhere that the wider potential playing group didn’t want to play with her.

This petty hatred these other women seem to hold for her is pathetic.


reminds me of the hate jeremy lin got from melo because lin got more popular than him
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#31 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:06 pm

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Kilroy wrote:I never pay attention to the WNBA, but just on the surface, this seems utterly insane... Could you imagine if they left say, rookie LeBron off the team usa roster?
For a group always whining about equal pay, they're sure doing everything they can to sabotage whatever chance they had at generating the kind of excitement necessary to challenge the popularity of the men...

Meanwhile male stars are taking seasons off if they don't get the respect they think they deserve... :noway:


There are no rookies, (or even second, third, or 4th year players) on the women's roster, which was reported by the Athletic.

Clark is not currently as good as the players going in their stead.

The Men's team does often bring a couple of young up and comers to grow in the program. The women's team this year is clearly just trying to bring the best current American players. It's not "utterly insane".

If you say you never pay attention to the WNBA, why have such a strong opinion on this?


Because it's the first time I can remember that a WNBA player was good enough to peak the interest of the general, non-caring population... Do you honestly believe the NBA wouldn't change the rule preventing rookies from playing in the Olympics, for a talent like that?
Not as good as the other players? Your telling me, a player would absolutely dominated the only prep league we have for the WNBA (College) is now 'not as good as' any of the other players on the Olympics roster? I think you know that sounds a bit silly...

Maybe it looks like that because her coach is asking her to play out of position and focus on 2pt shooting... Could you imagine that happening to Curry?
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#32 » by madskillz8 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:06 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:I can't believe how annoying it's been in year 1 to have this strange segment of fans who know nothing about the WNBA and are following it through the myopic lens of a single college star.

While there has been no official news on the team USA roster, the expected roster is made up entirely of elite veterans. The youngest players on the proposed roster are Jackie Young and Sabrina Ionescu (both 26 and in their 6th and 5th years in the league, respectively).

We're talking a team made of only WNBA all-stars and no young players. Caitlin Clark is not a good WNBA player yet. She's incredibly promising but she's having a tough time as a high-usage, net negative, playing for a very young team.

This should be non news. It's like Scoot Henderson being left of the men's team.


Look I agree with your reasoning, but you lost all the credibility with just one sentence.

Performance wise? Popularity wise? And do you really believe what you said here?
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#33 » by Anticon » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:08 pm

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cupcakesnake wrote:I can't believe how annoying it's been in year 1 to have this strange segment of fans who know nothing about the WNBA and are following it through the myopic lens of a single college star.

While there has been no official news on the team USA roster, the expected roster is made up entirely of elite veterans. The youngest players on the proposed roster are Jackie Young and Sabrina Ionescu (both 26 and in their 6th and 5th years in the league, respectively).

We're talking a team made of only WNBA all-stars and no young players. Caitlin Clark is not a good WNBA player yet. She's incredibly promising but she's having a tough time as a high-usage, net negative, playing for a very young team.

This should be non news. It's like Scoot Henderson being left of the men's team.


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Comparing her to Scoot Henderson?

It's actually a good way of representing the problem. There's a perfectly reasonable case for inclusion; and perfectly good case for exclusion.

But people feel compelled to make a case that's it all in people's heads, or just a symptom of fandom. A college player of that pedigree will always be a reasonable consideration for the national team.
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#34 » by RiRuHoops » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:08 pm

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RiRuHoops wrote:Big bust

Nah they appear to be on the smaller side

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Are they ? Never watched her play.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#35 » by King Bugs » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:09 pm

When did we start picking who makes Team USA roster spots based on popularity? The goal is to win gold which is what the USA women's team has done 7 straight times. Everything else comes second.

This is a such a nonstory. Anyone that's been paying attention to women's basketball knew she wasn't going to be on the team since she didn't go to a single Team USA training camp because she was in the Final Four.

Even then, Caitlin is not one of the 12 best players in the W. The Team USA roster is absolutely loaded. Who should she have gotten in over? I only see an argument against 41 year old Diana Taurasi and she's a legend they were never booting her off the team. But if that argument does nothing for you, then what about Arike Ogunbowale who has a beef over both Taurasi and Clark. She's the league's second leading scoring (26/5/4) averaging 10 more ppg than both of them and she's not going either.

The CC fanboys gotta relax, there is no "racist conspiracy" or whatever, it's just not Caitlin's time yet.
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#36 » by HotelVitale » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:11 pm

shrink wrote:
bisme37 wrote:She's been struggling hard as a WNBA rookie and there's a massive hoopla wherever she goes which would be very distracting for Team USA. Honestly it would have felt kinda gimmicky to have her on the team. In 4 years she'll be at the Olympics but I get the decision to leave her off this time around.

She’s had a lot of turnovers with the ball in her hands immediately, but she was Rookie of the Month, the second player ever to average 15-5-5 in her first month, and tied the rookie three point record (7) last night in her 30 point game. They could have easily justified a spot.

But her impact goes far beyond her stats. Just like in the WNBA, the other players should be profiting from her popularity as she grows the league, not complaining about it. This was a massive blown opportunity to help the WNBA, and they have only emphasized their own pettiness.


Eh, she looks talented and skilled in wnba games and I'm not really worried about her future, but she's also not that great in games now. Needs some time for the game to slow down and have her put her tools to work at the right time. Looks like she'll be able to be a Steve Nash/Trae Young type player down the line who can drive and pass off picks and drill any shot you give her, but for now she looks sort of lost and makes bad passing and shooting decisions a lot. Also can't seem to decide what she wants to do on most plays.

Her team also sucks pretty bad and doens't have a real offense, but either way she definitely doens't look ready for the biggest stages yet.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#37 » by Rust_Cohle » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:11 pm

I’m ecstatic for her. She’s very young and could absolutely use a break once the WNBA season is over. To go from intense March madness to wnba adjustment to Olympics is a lot.

She’ll get plenty of opportunities in the future and when she does make her debut she’ll be a much more polished player.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#38 » by JasonStern » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:11 pm

I mean, Taurasi is old enough to be her mom. So, I get the being snubbed agenda. And even if Clark isn't ready now, it makes more sense to start bringing into to national team younger players. But let's not pretend like A'ja Wilson isn't going to single-handedly out-score entire teams. Or that Clark's WNBA stats are not a side effect of being having free reign on a bad team.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#39 » by cdubbz » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:19 pm

Team USA won't need her talent wise to win the Gold medal, but WNBA keeps missing on a huge opportunity to market their star and cash cow.

I do think CC would welcome the basketball break, but they should have made room for her to be on the roster somewhow. Taurasi is 41?! Get off the team and let someone else play.
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Re: Caitlin Clarke left off USA Roster 

Post#40 » by Creativetran » Sat Jun 8, 2024 4:19 pm

bisme37 wrote:USA Women's basketball has won like 500 gold medals in a row. They don't need or care about her popularity (or shouldn't imo). The team isn't NBC trying to get ratings. They are trying to win gold. Clark is just not at Olympic level yet as a player.

This is a pretty dumb take IMO, so they are dominate but still can't break even after nearly 20 years.... mayyyyyybbbe it's time for the league to worry about entertainment aspect as well, if the NBA didn't give subsidy to this league it would have folded years ago.

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