2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 2-0)

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Who wins Game 2 of the NBA Finals?

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#161 » by Grahf » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:16 pm

Mr B wrote:Why is everyone upset that Kidd called Brown the Celtics best player? Based on what we’ve seen he is their best player. Seems like that would be a compliment.


I wouldn’t say anyone’s upset, but we’re talking about this because we know Kidd doesn't believe what he’s saying. the entire Mavericks defense in Game 1 was set up to stop Tatum. it’s kind of amusing to see him play these mind games.

Clearly he’s hoping Tatum will feel the need to force up shots against the Mavs defense, which would give Dallas a huge advantage.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#162 » by MagicMamba88 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:20 pm

the old Phil Jackson move lol.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#163 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:20 pm

I love me some bisme, but a handful of screenshots don't really tell the tale of how defense was played. In particular ones where he has the ball, Boston has 5 out and the Mavs defenders are simply looking at him and in standard positions where they can still easily get to shooters.

We don't have to make it out to be something its not in order to say Tatum is the Celtic's best player and number 1 on the defensive game plan.

Dallas simply could never sell out to defend him on possession after possession because the shooters are too good.

Hate the extremes everything has to go to.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#164 » by Lalouie » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:21 pm

just now in the presser for game 2 there was a nancy lieberman in the press corp who asked kyrie a question

is that NANCY LIEBERMAN????
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#165 » by Grahf » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:25 pm

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For those who don't remember, Leon Powe got hot for the Celtics and scored a bunch of points in Game 2 of the 08 Finals. After the game Phil Jackson deliberately mispronounced his name and basically pretended he had no idea who Powe was.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#166 » by bisme37 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:32 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I love me some bisme, but a handful of screenshots don't really tell the tale of how defense was played. In particular ones where he has the ball, Boston has 5 out and the Mavs defenders are simply looking at him and in standard positions where they can still easily get to shooters.

We don't have to make it out to be something its not in order to say Tatum is the Celtic's best player and number 1 on the defensive game plan.

Dallas simply could never sell out to defend him on possession after possession because the shooters are too good.

Hate the extremes everything has to go to.


I apologize if you didn't enjoy my posts but I'm not really enjoying your frequent passive-aggressive shots at how everyone else is unreasonable and you're tired of arguing them while continuing to exacerbate arguments.

You responded to my posts but didn't quote me and didn't make any counter argument aside from it was "extreme" and seemingly annoying to you personally.

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#167 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:36 pm

Well, Brown is the Celtics' flashiest and most athletic player. Best pure basketball player? It's a tossup between Derek White and Jrue Holiday. Both of those guys are a coach's dream. Almost always make the right play at both ends, don't make mistakes.

Obviously Kidd wants Tatum to "prove" he's the best player by taking shots he ought not to take when double and triple teamed. I'd love to watch a game in which Tatum had zero points and 25 assists.

I'd also like to watch a playoff game in which Payton Pritchard is the Celtics' leading scorer. It happened once this year in the regular season. Blowout of course. I like blowouts.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#168 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:44 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:I love me some bisme, but a handful of screenshots don't really tell the tale of how defense was played. In particular ones where he has the ball, Boston has 5 out and the Mavs defenders are simply looking at him and in standard positions where they can still easily get to shooters.

We don't have to make it out to be something its not in order to say Tatum is the Celtic's best player and number 1 on the defensive game plan.

Dallas simply could never sell out to defend him on possession after possession because the shooters are too good.

Hate the extremes everything has to go to.


I apologize if you didn't enjoy my posts but I'm not really enjoying your frequent passive-aggressive shots at how everyone else is unreasonable and you're tired of arguing them while continuing to exacerbate arguments.

You responded to my posts but didn't quote me and didn't make any counter argument aside from it was "extreme" and seemingly annoying to you personally.

Love you though. I guess.



I simply referenced your screenshots purporting to say something they don't necessarily. Then responding as a whole to all the people repeating what I disagree with which was that Dallas is selling out to defend Tatum

Didn't realize I had to quote you to respond to a common theme or that its passive aggressive to disagree with Celtics fans. And I made obvious counter points -- the Mavs did not triple and quadruple Tatum all game because its death to do so--the shooting is too good.

Do we really have to agree with everyone else's take every time so they don't take offense? I sure hope not.

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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#169 » by Mr B » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:48 pm

bisme37 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Why is everyone upset that Kidd called Brown the Celtics best player? Based on what we’ve seen he is their best player. Seems like that would be a compliment.


It made me laugh and roll my eyes, not get upset. It's cool with me if you think Brown is the C's best player but Jason Kidd clearly does not.

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Yea you’re probably right. I mean Tatum does make more than Brown so the Celtics definitely feel Tatum is the better player.
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Post#170 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:50 pm

Brown makes more just on timing of contracts, but you know that....
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Post#171 » by Mr B » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:53 pm

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If Kidd call Jason Tatum best player, Steven A Smith and lots of Brown supporters will jump out saying this brother does not get enough love.

I have not heard anyone having problem with SAS, Perkins, or anyone calling Kyrie the leader and/or the best player of the Mavs. More peace of mind between these two whether you agree or not. Brown's camp and supports have not been happy of him not getting all-nba selection and lack of commercial deals.

I don't think I've ever actually heard anyone call Kyrie better than Luka literally ever.

Why would Tatum think Kidd is trying to drive a wedge between them just by saying Jaylon is the C’s best player? Kidd is just speaking facts. The only reason this would drive a wedge between them is if Tatum took it as an insult for anyone to think Jaylon is better than him. Is it possible that Tatum actually feels that way?
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Post#172 » by Slax » Sat Jun 8, 2024 8:56 pm

Mr B wrote:
Slax wrote:
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If Kidd call Jason Tatum best player, Steven A Smith and lots of Brown supporters will jump out saying this brother does not get enough love.

I have not heard anyone having problem with SAS, Perkins, or anyone calling Kyrie the leader and/or the best player of the Mavs. More peace of mind between these two whether you agree or not. Brown's camp and supports have not been happy of him not getting all-nba selection and lack of commercial deals.

I don't think I've ever actually heard anyone call Kyrie better than Luka literally ever.

Why would Tatum think Kidd is trying to drive a wedge between them just by saying Jaylon is the C’s best player? Kidd is just speaking facts. The only reason this would drive a wedge between them is if Tatum took it as an insult for anyone to think Jaylon is better than him. Is it possible that Tatum actually feels that way?

Lol sure thing buddy
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Post#173 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:01 pm

I suspect Kidd is going to try to win Game 2 at the free throw line.

He'll definitely tell his team to take the shots that are available, not those they'd ideally like to get. And evidently that will include more of Luka driving to the rim.

And of course the refs will be ones who tend to be ... opinionated.
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Post#174 » by jfs1000d » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:07 pm

The issue is to get Tatum into more of a tunnel vision I have to score mindset. Celtics are at their best when moving the ball.


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Post#175 » by hugepatsfan » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:13 pm

At this point, the only way you stop Boston schematically from getting great shots is if you can force/trick Tatum/Brown to bang their head against the wall trying to score inside by driving into traffic to taking hero ball step backs. They have too many good secondary playmakers and shooters around them to stop the team from getting good shots at leisure if not for that.

Kidd is clearly and trying to try and get one or both of Tatum/Brown into a head space where they get caught up in trying to prove themselves doing that. It’s just blatantly obvious what he’s trying to do. And the Celtics players seeing it and calling it out is a good sign because it shows that they’re self aware to understand it.
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Post#176 » by Andri » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:15 pm

The reaction to Kidd's words is a testament to the sensitiveness around the topic in Boston's locker room.
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Post#177 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:18 pm

Andri wrote:The reaction to Kidd's words is a testament to the sensitiveness around the topic in Boston's locker room.


And among the fans lol. This statement wouldn’t be getting this much traction otherwise.
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Re: 2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (BOS leads 1-0) Game 2: Sunday June 9th 

Post#178 » by AussieCeltic » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:23 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:I love me some bisme, but a handful of screenshots don't really tell the tale of how defense was played. In particular ones where he has the ball, Boston has 5 out and the Mavs defenders are simply looking at him and in standard positions where they can still easily get to shooters.

We don't have to make it out to be something its not in order to say Tatum is the Celtic's best player and number 1 on the defensive game plan.

Dallas simply could never sell out to defend him on possession after possession because the shooters are too good.

Hate the extremes everything has to go to.


I apologize if you didn't enjoy my posts but I'm not really enjoying your frequent passive-aggressive shots at how everyone else is unreasonable and you're tired of arguing them while continuing to exacerbate arguments.

You responded to my posts but didn't quote me and didn't make any counter argument aside from it was "extreme" and seemingly annoying to you personally.

Love you though. I guess.



I simply referenced your screenshots purporting to say something they don't necessarily. Then responding as a whole to all the people repeating what I disagree with which was that Dallas is selling out to defend Tatum

Didn't realize I had to quote you to respond to a common theme or that its passive aggressive to disagree with Celtics fans. And I made obvious counter points -- the Mavs did not triple and quadruple Tatum all game because its death to do so--the shooting is too good.

Do we really have to agree with everyone else's take every time so they don't take offense? I sure hope not.

I do love you. But you don't have to love me. I'll be okay. Really surprised you took any of that personal. I've read it like 5 times now and still honestly don't see it. Guess its the last line, which okay isn't necessary but is true. This thread is full of extreme takes in all directions and I don't get why we have to do it or how it makes things better.


The screen shots are right though. I’ve seen a Mavs fan on X (@kyriemavs) try claim they were in “zone” in these shots which just isn’t true. He might be the worst person breaking down games I’ve ever witnessed.

When Tatum had the ball game 1, Mavs were sending the weakside defender to the strong side. They did not do this with any other Celtic player. This is a fact.

When Tatum called a ball screen, most times they would blitz or send a double. They didn’t do this with any other Celtic player. This is a fact.

Everytime Tatum drove, they would crash and help with multiple defenders. They didn’t do this with any other Celtic player. This is a fact.

I don’t know why Mavs fans are claiming this isn’t true. There was a clear and distinct difference to how Tatum was defended in comparison to others. Which is normal. Why are you guys arguing otherwise?

If Brown really is the best player, why would Kidd put all the Mavs defensive efforts into stopping Tatum??
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Post#179 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:23 pm

Celtics in Dallas head lol. After one damn game.
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Post#180 » by RB34 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 9:28 pm

Andri wrote:The reaction to Kidd's words is a testament to the sensitiveness around the topic in Boston's locker room.


Which comment from a player seemed sensitive?

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