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Post#201 » by Mephariel » Sun Jun 9, 2024 5:09 am

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Just curious, don't you think there are some "jealousy" towards to the hype of Clark in WNBA?

If not, what is the reason of this "I hate you" look from the opponent before the out of nowhere knock out in above-shared video? Racism? Or what? Did Clark stole her toys in kindergarten? There should be a reason, right? Why WNBA players, or even "legends" were trying to downplay her instead of appreciating the attention she brings to women's basketball - more than they ever bring collectively...

This is something we don't see in NBA. We recently had a player with a similar hype with Clark, this tall monsieur from France. Be honest, can you imagine NBA stars publicly downplaying Wemby or any other very hyped rookie either before the draft or in the first few months where he clearly failed to live up the hype? Can you imagine Lebron disrespecting Wemby or any other draft candidate by saying "he's not built for NBA, I will take player X instead" on TV? Look at NBA stars' comments on Wemby, 8 months before the draft.

I mean, what's the source of such a collective anger or dislike towards CC, which is not some speculation since recorded on tape, other than jealousy? I'm very curious. Misogyny is a thing, just like a jealousy towards Clark. Both can exist at the same time, and addressing the obvious jealousy towards her hype does not make one a misogynist. Just saying...


This is something we don't see in the NBA because it has never happened in the NBA. As I mentioned in my post, has there ever been an NBA player as hyped as Clark was in college AND earned more money from sponsorship than the highest paid NBA player in total salary before even stepping on a NBA court? This would be equivalent of a college male player earning several times what Jaylen Brown is getting now. Of course some of the WNBA players are jealous. That is natural. You never saw the animosity players displayed against Lonzo Ball in his rookie year? Pat Beverly went after him in his first NBA game. People don't like rookies getting all the attention.


That's what I am saying. Jealousy is a jealousy, we're seeing it on tape, on fellow WNBA players' faces, in their words. What's the point of ignoring that?

I agree with your points, in parts. Because Wemby's hype was also huge, yet NBA stars didn't feel insecure. We didn't see comments on his injury history or being too skinny for rebounds, or he don't deserve to be drafted 1st. Anything close to that. Instead, they appreciated the potential with the kindest words possible- please see the link I've shared.

Also, I personally don't think WNBA players were jealous of her money. At least, it is not the first factor. As I mentioned in my previous post, many WNBA players were earning more salary overseas. You can say Taurasi is just earning 250k before taxes, but the same Taurasi was earning $1.5m in 2012 without taxes. While Taurasi is an extreme example, I don't really think that Chicago player was thinking about Clark's career earnings when she suddenly decided shout her "B*tch" and then bump with an anger in her eyes as if Clark killed her family. I think it is more about her fame and hype, rather than a money thing. They know that area is full because of her hype, not because any other player on the court. And I can totally understand that jealousy.

Also, watching how WNBA players treated Clark and how she started to receive "B" words without any on-court reason, made me remember the statements of one WNBA player about the bullying culture in WNBA, which were immediately refuted by fellow players at that time.

"People were deliberately trying to hurt me all of the time," Wiggins said. "I had never been called the B-word so many times in my life than I was in my rookie season. I'd never been thrown to the ground so much. The message was: 'We want you to know we don't like you.'"


So what if there is jealousy? What is your point? There is jealousy in the NBA too. Again, Wemby wasn't getting 3 million dollars worth of NIL before he even step on the court. Wemby wasn't get shoe deals no one else was getting. Also, nearly every NBA player is getting life changing money. That is not true of the WNBA players. There is a huge difference between 150K and 3+ million dollars. Taurasi is GOAT and she will never get the money Clark is getting now and in the future, when Clark's earnings will probably increase several fold. Of course there are some WNBA players that are jealous. I don't blame them. NIL didn't exist back then and they missed out. A'ja Wilson is a much better basketball player than Clark and she never got the benefits she got. Like why is this a big deal? When Lonzo got bullied by Pat Bev, who was feeling sorry for him? Nobody. If you are going to come out onto the court wearing peacock feathers, someone is going to ruffle them.

People are talking about Clark like she is living in the Gaza strip right now. It is just ridiculous. She is a big girl and she will survive and thrive. And if not, she is in the wrong profession.
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Post#202 » by Mephariel » Sun Jun 9, 2024 5:13 am

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Mephariel wrote:
madskillz8 wrote:
Just curious, don't you think there are some "jealousy" towards to the hype of Clark in WNBA?

If not, what is the reason of this "I hate you" look from the opponent before the out of nowhere knock out in above-shared video? Racism? Or what? Did Clark stole her toys in kindergarten? There should be a reason, right? Why WNBA players, or even "legends" were trying to downplay her instead of appreciating the attention she brings to women's basketball - more than they ever bring collectively...

This is something we don't see in NBA. We recently had a player with a similar hype with Clark, this tall monsieur from France. Be honest, can you imagine NBA stars publicly downplaying Wemby or any other very hyped rookie either before the draft or in the first few months where he clearly failed to live up the hype? Can you imagine Lebron disrespecting Wemby or any other draft candidate by saying "he's not built for NBA, I will take player X instead" on TV? Look at NBA stars' comments on Wemby, 8 months before the draft.

I mean, what's the source of such a collective anger or dislike towards CC, which is not some speculation since recorded on tape, other than jealousy? I'm very curious. Misogyny is a thing, just like a jealousy towards Clark. Both can exist at the same time, and addressing the obvious jealousy towards her hype does not make one a misogynist. Just saying...


This is something we don't see in the NBA because it has never happened in the NBA. As I mentioned in my post, has there ever been an NBA player as hyped as Clark was in college AND earned more money from sponsorship than the highest paid NBA player in total salary before even stepping on a NBA court? This would be equivalent of a college male player earning several times what Jaylen Brown is getting now. Of course some of the WNBA players are jealous. That is natural. You never saw the animosity players displayed against Lonzo Ball in his rookie year? Pat Beverly went after him in his first NBA game. People don't like rookies getting all the attention.

You understand that players couldn’t get endorsements until very recently? You also understand that there have been more hyped basketball players than CC? If you need them listed out, then you aren’t a basketball fan.


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Yes, everyone knows that players couldn't get endorsements until very recently. That is my point. That is part of the reason.

You don't think Kareem was a bit jealous of Lebron beating his scoring record? Kareem even mentioned that back then, they didn't have the luxury of flying private like Lebron. He said he could have played a couple more years.

Lacking the benefits of modern progress is what cause the bitterness. And in some ways, I don't blame them.
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Post#203 » by LouisLitt » Sun Jun 9, 2024 5:48 am

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Because WNBA players have been crying about no one caring about the league, about how their pay sucks, about how they don't fly chartered, etc..

Then when a player comes in that could completely change all these things for them, they try their best to exclude her and not utilize her to change their (and future WNBA players) lives.

It's annoying, like a fat person complaining they're fat then getting mad at you when you tell them to eat less.

Are CC fans becoming fans of other players? I’m not seeing it online at least.

Most barely seem to know anything about basketball.


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The people in this thread doing the screeching aren't Clark fans, they're just mediocre men using Clark as a means to get angry about women while having some cover from being called out for it

Most of the Caitlin Clark fans irl have gotten into the sport, to what degree depends. Some are just Clark fans, some have started following the Fever, and I'm sure others have gotten into their local teams

But people like Lous here, I'm not trying to No True Scotsman it, looking at his post history he has only two posts that come up in the search for "Caitlin" or "Clark", both are in the thread about the "offer" from Ice Cube for her to join the Big 3, neither of which is him talking about being a fan of her, both are just him complaining about how bad the WNBA is. I don't think people like him are Caitlin Clark fans, I think they're dudes who are insecure about their own masculinity and are using Clark to tear down women to make themselves feel better.


So let me get this straight, we can say whatever we want about male athletes, but as soon as we comment negatively about female athletes we're insecure about our own masculinity?

I don't enjoy the WNBA. I also don't like NCAAM. I also can't watch the G league.

They're all terrible products to me.

But you have women who were complaining about not getting viewership, now mad that they're getting viewership only because of CC?

The bottom line is, do they want viewership or not? Because she's making all their lives better right now.

"I looked at his post history" lmao.

Check how many negative comments I've made about Steph Curry and then come back and let me know if I'm secretly insecure about my "femininity".
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Post#204 » by jc23 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 10:09 am

I dont know if those players are better then Clark because i honestly have never heard of half of them. Im going to assume Clark just isnt on that level yet. Now will this hurt viewership? yes it will.

So on one level i respect it as a basketball first move; on the other its another lost opportunity to grow the sport. In the off season the wnba needs to make some rule changes to make the game more exciting. Considering the skill level of most of its players the league needs to move away from being a physical league to a skill based league; similar to the change we saw in the NBA 15 years ago.
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Post#205 » by madskillz8 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 11:45 am

Mephariel wrote:
So what if there is jealousy? What is your point? There is jealousy in the NBA too.


Well, seems like you didn't even read what I was replying to. I am labeled as a misogynist by a poster for addressing the jealousy towards Clark. And you replied to my reply to that poster. This is how it started.

I will copy & paste for the last time. This thread is very tiring, I think we all had a rough day because I've never had to remind my original post three times during the discussion:
I mean, what's the source of such a collective anger or dislike towards CC, which is not some speculation since recorded on tape, other than jealousy? I'm very curious. Misogyny is a thing, just like a jealousy towards Clark. Both can exist at the same time, and addressing the obvious jealousy towards her hype does not make one a misogynist. Just saying...
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Post#206 » by KembaWalker » Sun Jun 9, 2024 12:41 pm

Diana Taurasi has no business on this roster. Move on you insecure geezer
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Post#207 » by Wingy » Sun Jun 9, 2024 12:54 pm

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Wingy wrote:Basketball wise, and check me if I’m crazy wrong WNBA hardcore fans, I don’t think it would be all that crazy to say this is akin to people clamoring for Jordan Poole to be on the Olympic team.

Except with way more turnovers.

Despite her being the primary reason I’m paying way more attention, I can see the reality. She’s just not good enough yet, and that’s normal.

The people who are gonna lose interest because Caitlin Clark isn’t an Olympian aren’t paying attention anyway.

Seriously, if you weren’t already tuning in after Iowa and March Madness and against a big name like Angel/the defending champs, you really think people are going to make appointment viewing for tape delayed games against no name opponents that are getting blown out of the water by 50 points every game? Nah, I ain’t buying that at all.


She's 13th in the league in scoring and 4th in assists (per game).
She's struggled with efficiency and turnovers, but giving her a Jordan Poole comp is a pretty wild take (you mean Wizards Poole, right? He was pretty good in 21-22).
I wouldn't pay much attention to the posters saying she is actually a bad WNBA player or has been outperformed by rookies like Cam Brinks lol. That's not true at all. She's clearly been the most impactful rookie and everyone else would trade their rookie and an extra FRP for her without hesitation.
She's closer to last season Wemby than last season Poole. She's not a top-12 player in the league, but is quite superior to several other starting guards in the league.
Some of her struggles can also be attributed to being on an absolute trash team. The previous #1 overall pick, Boston, has been way more disappointing this season imo, but she escapes the criticism because of the attention Clark gets.


I actually deleted “last year” from my post seeing just how abysmal Poole was last season. It would be ridiculous for there to be an outcry for even “good Poole” to be on the Olympic squad.

Her assist rate is strong, and I don’t know if anyone’s surprised there. But generally speaking the counting numbers on bad efficiency, on a bad team get absolutely crushed when people evaluate players in the men’s game.

Saying she has struggled with turnovers is glossing over the issue quite a bit. She’s the worst in the league by a lot. Per 36, she’s
averaging 25% more TOs than the 2nd worst player.

I’m a fan. She’s going to become a great player. She’s just plain not good enough yet though, and that’s not surprising for a rookie.

Like I said. If someone wasn’t paying attention already, there aren’t going to be many that are roped in by Paris.
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Post#208 » by Wingy » Sun Jun 9, 2024 12:55 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Diana Taurasi has no business on this roster. Move on you insecure geezer


Do people say the same about Lebron?

Well, you for one actually would. :lol:
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Post#209 » by Wingy » Sun Jun 9, 2024 12:57 pm

jc23 wrote:I dont know if those players are better then Clark because i honestly have never heard of half of them. Im going to assume Clark just isnt on that level yet. Now will this hurt viewership? yes it will.

So on one level i respect it as a basketball first move; on the other its another lost opportunity to grow the sport. In the off season the wnba needs to make some rule changes to make the game more exciting. Considering the skill level of most of its players the league needs to move away from being a physical league to a skill based league; similar to the change we saw in the NBA 15 years ago.


As someone who isn’t even some WNBA diehard, I can still ask you — how you can possibly make the first statement and then make grand declarations like the second?
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Post#210 » by KembaWalker » Sun Jun 9, 2024 1:03 pm

Wingy wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Diana Taurasi has no business on this roster. Move on you insecure geezer


Do people say the same about Lebron?

Well, you for one actually would. :lol:


LeBrons still trying to make everyone forget about his bronze, his insecure legacy chasing at least makes some sense in that regard. Tarausi is just insecure over her lack of public relevance which is even more pathetic
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Post#211 » by jc23 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 1:44 pm

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jc23 wrote:I dont know if those players are better then Clark because i honestly have never heard of half of them. Im going to assume Clark just isnt on that level yet. Now will this hurt viewership? yes it will.

So on one level i respect it as a basketball first move; on the other its another lost opportunity to grow the sport. In the off season the wnba needs to make some rule changes to make the game more exciting. Considering the skill level of most of its players the league needs to move away from being a physical league to a skill based league; similar to the change we saw in the NBA 15 years ago.


As someone who isn’t even some WNBA diehard, I can still ask you — how you can possibly make the first statement and then make grand declarations like the second?


Thats just my opinion with the 15 game sample size i have seen. Im sure its annoying to longtime fans but people like me is the price you pay with league growth. And my opinion might change by the end of the season but right now thats where i am at.
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Post#212 » by jc23 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 1:55 pm

Wingy wrote:
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Wingy wrote:Basketball wise, and check me if I’m crazy wrong WNBA hardcore fans, I don’t think it would be all that crazy to say this is akin to people clamoring for Jordan Poole to be on the Olympic team.

Except with way more turnovers.

Despite her being the primary reason I’m paying way more attention, I can see the reality. She’s just not good enough yet, and that’s normal.

The people who are gonna lose interest because Caitlin Clark isn’t an Olympian aren’t paying attention anyway.

Seriously, if you weren’t already tuning in after Iowa and March Madness and against a big name like Angel/the defending champs, you really think people are going to make appointment viewing for tape delayed games against no name opponents that are getting blown out of the water by 50 points every game? Nah, I ain’t buying that at all.


She's 13th in the league in scoring and 4th in assists (per game).
She's struggled with efficiency and turnovers, but giving her a Jordan Poole comp is a pretty wild take (you mean Wizards Poole, right? He was pretty good in 21-22).
I wouldn't pay much attention to the posters saying she is actually a bad WNBA player or has been outperformed by rookies like Cam Brinks lol. That's not true at all. She's clearly been the most impactful rookie and everyone else would trade their rookie and an extra FRP for her without hesitation.
She's closer to last season Wemby than last season Poole. She's not a top-12 player in the league, but is quite superior to several other starting guards in the league.
Some of her struggles can also be attributed to being on an absolute trash team. The previous #1 overall pick, Boston, has been way more disappointing this season imo, but she escapes the criticism because of the attention Clark gets.


I actually deleted “last year” from my post seeing just how abysmal Poole was last season. It would be ridiculous for there to be an outcry for even “good Poole” to be on the Olympic squad.

Her assist rate is strong, and I don’t know if anyone’s surprised there. But generally speaking the counting numbers on bad efficiency, on a bad team get absolutely crushed when people evaluate players in the men’s game.

Saying she has struggled with turnovers is glossing over the issue quite a bit. She’s the worst in the league by a lot. Per 36, she’s
averaging 25% more TOs than the 2nd worst player.

I’m a fan. She’s going to become a great player. She’s just plain not good enough yet though, and that’s not surprising for a rookie.

Like I said. If someone wasn’t paying attention already, there aren’t going to be many that are roped in by Paris.


its more akin to Zion not being on team usa his rookie season. What you will lose by not having Clark on the team is Clark watchers. And in terms of womens basketball thats a huge group. Im sure whatever channel that is covering it is not happy about it. Either way its good that this is even a topic for debate; probably a first for womens usa basketball.

An issue with Clark is they have her as the lead point guard when she needs to be a combo guard. Its baptism by fire; which will pay off in the long run but the Fever need a stating caliber veteran pg imo. Right now her dribble just isnt strong enough to be a pg.

And the Fever players dont know how to play with her yet. When you have a player who is being face guarded at half court and trapped on most pnr's it should lead to plenty of easy baskets.
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Post#213 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 9, 2024 2:32 pm

jc23 wrote:I dont know if those players are better then Clark because i honestly have never heard of half of them. Im going to assume Clark just isnt on that level yet. Now will this hurt viewership? yes it will.

So on one level i respect it as a basketball first move; on the other its another lost opportunity to grow the sport. In the off season the wnba needs to make some rule changes to make the game more exciting. Considering the skill level of most of its players the league needs to move away from being a physical league to a skill based league; similar to the change we saw in the NBA 15 years ago.


Clark, right now, isn't better than anyone on the roster.

Also, if you've never heard of half of them, you need to watch more games before passing judgment on the league. Because those players are highly skilled and damned good.

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Post#214 » by Clocian » Sun Jun 9, 2024 3:36 pm

If this isn't a classic case of Eminem 2.0 I don't know what is. Good NCAA player comes into the league and instantly people who know nothing about the WNBA (like eminem stans and their lack of hip hop history knowledge) crown her the best of the league when A'Ja Wilson and others have been tearing up the league for a min now.

As pointed out, I'd argue Reese, who is also a rookie, is having a better season currently than Clark, let alone the veterans who are definitely better than her right now. She has no place on the Olympic roster.
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Post#215 » by shrink » Sun Jun 9, 2024 3:49 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Truly pathetic stuff right here folks. The folks making these decisions deserve to go broke

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Team USA veterans were concerned about how Caitlin Clark's millions of fans would react to her likely limited playing time on a stacked Olympic roster , per @cbrennansports

“Two other sources, both long-time U.S. basketball veterans with decades of experience in the women’s game, told USA TODAY Sports Friday that concern over how Clark’s millions of fans would react to what would likely be limited playing time on a stacked roster was a factor in the decision making.

If this is true, it’s truly despicable. These players acknowledge that Clark has millions of fans who would rather see her play, and to protect their own playing time (that they feel entitled to despite those millions of fans), they pretend the correct response (instead of playing Clark less) is to keep her off the team entirely?!? These women clearly aren’t acting in the best interests of the fans, or the future of women’s basketball.
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Post#216 » by jc23 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 3:51 pm

Clocian wrote:If this isn't a classic case of Eminem 2.0 I don't know what is. Good NCAA player comes into the league and instantly people who know nothing about the WNBA (like eminem stans and their lack of hip hop history knowledge) crown her the best of the league when A'Ja Wilson and others have been tearing up the league for a min now.

As pointed out, I'd argue Reese, who is also a rookie, is having a better season currently than Clark, let alone the veterans who are definitely better than her right now. She has no place on the Olympic roster.


is there anyone on this board who is claiming Clark as the best player in the league? Ive seen Reese play a few times and she might better to those who know the womens game more then i do, but she most assuredly is not the draw that CC is. Her layups hurt my soul.
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Post#217 » by jc23 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 3:55 pm

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jc23 wrote:I dont know if those players are better then Clark because i honestly have never heard of half of them. Im going to assume Clark just isnt on that level yet. Now will this hurt viewership? yes it will.

So on one level i respect it as a basketball first move; on the other its another lost opportunity to grow the sport. In the off season the wnba needs to make some rule changes to make the game more exciting. Considering the skill level of most of its players the league needs to move away from being a physical league to a skill based league; similar to the change we saw in the NBA 15 years ago.


Clark, right now, isn't better than anyone on the roster.

Also, if you've never heard of half of them, you need to watch more games before passing judgment on the league. Because those players are highly skilled and damned good.

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Its all good, i was super excited when i saw this board existed. Im opinionated like all of you, but im not going to pretend like i have a decade of wnba watching under my belt.
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Post#218 » by TheSuzerain » Sun Jun 9, 2024 4:04 pm

jc23 wrote:
Wingy wrote:
CIN-C-STAR wrote:
She's 13th in the league in scoring and 4th in assists (per game).
She's struggled with efficiency and turnovers, but giving her a Jordan Poole comp is a pretty wild take (you mean Wizards Poole, right? He was pretty good in 21-22).
I wouldn't pay much attention to the posters saying she is actually a bad WNBA player or has been outperformed by rookies like Cam Brinks lol. That's not true at all. She's clearly been the most impactful rookie and everyone else would trade their rookie and an extra FRP for her without hesitation.
She's closer to last season Wemby than last season Poole. She's not a top-12 player in the league, but is quite superior to several other starting guards in the league.
Some of her struggles can also be attributed to being on an absolute trash team. The previous #1 overall pick, Boston, has been way more disappointing this season imo, but she escapes the criticism because of the attention Clark gets.


I actually deleted “last year” from my post seeing just how abysmal Poole was last season. It would be ridiculous for there to be an outcry for even “good Poole” to be on the Olympic squad.

Her assist rate is strong, and I don’t know if anyone’s surprised there. But generally speaking the counting numbers on bad efficiency, on a bad team get absolutely crushed when people evaluate players in the men’s game.

Saying she has struggled with turnovers is glossing over the issue quite a bit. She’s the worst in the league by a lot. Per 36, she’s
averaging 25% more TOs than the 2nd worst player.

I’m a fan. She’s going to become a great player. She’s just plain not good enough yet though, and that’s not surprising for a rookie.

Like I said. If someone wasn’t paying attention already, there aren’t going to be many that are roped in by Paris.


its more akin to Zion not being on team usa his rookie season. What you will lose by not having Clark on the team is Clark watchers. And in terms of womens basketball thats a huge group. Im sure whatever channel that is covering it is not happy about it. Either way its good that this is even a topic for debate; probably a first for womens usa basketball.

An issue with Clark is they have her as the lead point guard when she needs to be a combo guard. Its baptism by fire; which will pay off in the long run but the Fever need a stating caliber veteran pg imo. Right now her dribble just isnt strong enough to be a pg.

And the Fever players dont know how to play with her yet. When you have a player who is being face guarded at half court and trapped on most pnr's it should lead to plenty of easy baskets.

It's not really akin to Zion. It's a pretty strange situation.

They decided to not include the #1 player the USA as a collective wanted to be on the team.

And women's basketball is generally a victory lap situation anyway for Team USA.

And I'm not really buying that she wouldn't excel on the team either. She's an elite shooter and wouldn't be getting blitzed every possession given she'd be playing with actual talent. The idea that she'd be some sort of noticeable problem is preposterous when half the guards they took shoot like 35% from the floor.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#219 » by madskillz8 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 4:04 pm

Clocian wrote:If this isn't a classic case of Eminem 2.0 I don't know what is. Good NCAA player comes into the league and instantly people who know nothing about the WNBA (like eminem stans and their lack of hip hop history knowledge) crown her the best of the league when A'Ja Wilson and others have been tearing up the league for a min now.

As pointed out, I'd argue Reese, who is also a rookie, is having a better season currently than Clark, let alone the veterans who are definitely better than her right now. She has no place on the Olympic roster.


I definitely understand long-time WNBA fans' disappointment with new fans (casuals, regulars, bandwagoners, whatever you call them) because there are myriad of examples of that from musical bands to sports, and even more serious topics such as immigrants, which makes you feel threatened.

But please, stop creating fake narratives to make yourself feel better.

Seriously, WTF? I read the whole thread and there is no post crowning her the best player. Instead the main arguments were jealousy towards her -which is reasonable- and the missed opportunity for growing the women's basketball. Why some posters here creating fake narratives to support their arguments? You can defend your stance without doing that.

Observing this repeated behavior in this thread and the dislike of long-time WNBA fans on Clark, I genuinely started to believe (i) Wiggings' remarks that suggests WNBA has a toxic bullying and jealousy culture, and (ii) there is a collective hate towards Clark in WNBA. Why? After all WNBA players is just a subgroup of society, and we're seeing another sample of the very same society here in this thread (WNBA fans...) with their dislike towards a very likeable, humble, and well-spoken young American woman who is also one of the most fun to watch basketball players ever, just like Curry.

Ok, I am done.

-begin rant

Her snub is no different Scoot Henderson not making US Men's team. She's the Poole equivalent of WNBA. She's one of the worst rookies ever with these turnovers. She's 26. She shoots 40 shoots per game. She's not good enough to be 1st pick, they should've go with 15ppg player instead. She's just a manufactured star, because if you give an opportunity to any WNBA player in college, she could have done the same in college. All she can do is spam threes. She can't be a face of the league because that honor belongs to black women.

THESE ARE THE THINGS I'VE READ IN THIS THREAD, AND COMMENTS OF WNBA PLAYERS & JOURNALISTS. OK I WILL TRY TO ADD A COUPLE OF THEM: SHE'S UGLY, PLUM IS BETTER. SHE'S NOT EVEN LESBIAN. HER RELEASE IS VERY SLOW. 10 GAMES ARE ENOUGH SAMPLE SIZE TO SEE SHE'S SCRUB. Also, I am a stupid-mediocre-misogynist-bandwagoner-incel chud for watching three of her games and commenting on obvious jealousy towards her.

- end rant

Good luck with the "discussion", I'm out.
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Re: Caitlin Clark left off USA Roster 

Post#220 » by Clocian » Sun Jun 9, 2024 4:11 pm

jc23 wrote:
Clocian wrote:If this isn't a classic case of Eminem 2.0 I don't know what is. Good NCAA player comes into the league and instantly people who know nothing about the WNBA (like eminem stans and their lack of hip hop history knowledge) crown her the best of the league when A'Ja Wilson and others have been tearing up the league for a min now.

As pointed out, I'd argue Reese, who is also a rookie, is having a better season currently than Clark, let alone the veterans who are definitely better than her right now. She has no place on the Olympic roster.


is there anyone on this board who is claiming Clark as the best player in the league? Ive seen Reese play a few times and she might better to those who know the womens game more then i do, but she most assuredly is not the draw that CC is. Her layups hurt my soul.


Yeah, her offensive game is not the best atm, but she makes up for it in defense, rebounds and leadership. She may already be the Sky's best player.

4th in rebounds in the entire wnba
5th in steals in the entire wnba

As a fellow Bulls fan I encourage you to watch more Sky games. She's fun to watch. I get strong Noah vibes from her. Great energy, defense, rebounder, leadership.

That plus we also have rookie Cardoso who's a beast as well. They're gonna be a fun duo to watch as wait for the Bulls to get back on track
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