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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5 

Post#921 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 9:16 pm

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Syd-TK3 wrote:One thing I know is we really value workouts and interviews so if Ware is the pick I trust he absolutely killed it and removed all doubts about any sorta motor questions

Well .. yeah but... if he fell to us at #19, then he must have absolutely blown all of the workouts and interviews for earlier drafting teams.

I agree that Ware, if the motor rumors are false, would be a better fit then Edey, Filipowski, and other less mobile Cs. But there are several teams looking to draft a C ahead of us, and if they all don't value him enough to draft him over others, then maybe we'd also be making a mistake if we took him. I'll leave that decision up to Masai. I don't think he can afford to blow it on any of the picks in this draft, so I expect we'll be getting high floor players out of it.

Edey & Filipowski, as far as C's go, would be in the high floor category. Both can easily be seen as on par with Poeltl a couple years out.

Thats not a gurantee, His range is very wide and some people may view it differently then we do just cause a C is on their list don't mean it's the #1 priority
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Post#922 » by bobbyp3588 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 11:00 pm

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bobbyp3588 wrote:Nah man…. You got a fake brain.

Not one lottery pick on the championship squad.

Where are JV’s, DD’s and TRoss’s rings? They don’t exist.


You don't get Ibaka without TRoss and the first traded. Marc without JV. Lowry without the lottery pick conceded. Kawhi without Poeltl and DD.


No ****, Sherlock!!

No one is saying the team has never had a lottery pick.
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Post#923 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jun 9, 2024 11:16 pm

Tyler Smith at 31 and I'm doing backflips.
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Post#924 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jun 9, 2024 11:24 pm

I feel theres going to be a lot of action on draft night with teams trying to cut their tax amount or steer away from 2nd apron
we should be taking advantage and trying to get another 25' FRP
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Post#925 » by gha4life » Sun Jun 9, 2024 11:38 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:Tyler Smith at 31 and I'm doing backflips.



He's not lasting that far
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Post#926 » by SpezNc » Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:08 am

gha4life wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Tyler Smith at 31 and I'm doing backflips.



He's not lasting that far


Probably not but it’s not crazy either
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Post#927 » by Johnston » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:18 am

If our scouts think there are no high upside prospects in our range and Edey is off the board I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with something like Mcculair and Kolek at 19/31. We are in need of depth and I personally don't see them firing off a Bruno type pick.
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Post#928 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:40 am

WuTang_OG wrote:I feel theres going to be a lot of action on draft night with teams trying to cut their tax amount or steer away from 2nd apron
we should be taking advantage and trying to get another 25' FRP


That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.
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Post#929 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:44 am

Indeed wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I feel theres going to be a lot of action on draft night with teams trying to cut their tax amount or steer away from 2nd apron
we should be taking advantage and trying to get another 25' FRP


That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.


Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night
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Post#930 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:48 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Indeed wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I feel theres going to be a lot of action on draft night with teams trying to cut their tax amount or steer away from 2nd apron
we should be taking advantage and trying to get another 25' FRP


That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.


Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Yes, but during draft night, I do not see future picks being throw in, unless it is for a star player.
Usually it is the same draft picks being moved.
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Post#931 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:52 am

Indeed wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Indeed wrote:
That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.


Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Yes, but during draft night, I do not see future picks being throw in, unless it is for a star player.
Usually it is the same draft picks being moved.


Picks are moved for following years all the time. OKC/Denver most recently. Also, 24' picks are meaningless this year since its so down. A team like GS is not going to dump Wiggins by moving off their 24' pick (if they had it). 25' picks will be in play for teams that are crunched and have small windows. Raps just need to be aggressive.
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Post#932 » by CazOnReal » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:56 am

Getting a 2nd 2025 pick should be the plan...but let's be blunt, it probably won't happen.

You're not trading Poeltl who is the one player on this roster who could fetch a 25 1st rounder without question, Bruce Brown is likely looking at a 2024 first instead of 2025 - which by the by that's the main reason the Raptors kept him since it seems like teams were only offering picks from this draft class - so unless you're getting in to some 3rd team shenanigans or you're doing a similar deal to what OKC did to defer picking to a different year i.e. swapping a pick with the Nuggets in the 2023 draft (or 2022, I can't remember) for a future first, the chances are likely we'll have just our own pick in the 2025 draft.
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Post#933 » by S.W.A.N » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:13 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Indeed wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I feel theres going to be a lot of action on draft night with teams trying to cut their tax amount or steer away from 2nd apron
we should be taking advantage and trying to get another 25' FRP


That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.


Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Going for 24 picks makes more sense.

Teams that have cap/tax issues want to get rid of 24 picks. Teams trying to win now are willing to move 24 picks... This means 24 picks are potentially being discounted in a big way.

25 picks aren't being discounted by anyone. Way higher hype for the top guys next year and no salary cap obligations for future picks.

Trade Brown for a 2024 first and salary filler
Trade pick 31 and take some salary on for a mid-late pick from a second apron team.
Trade Boucher for a pick and taking on bad salary

lots of potential ways to take advantage of fact many teams aren't that interested in picking this year. Having 4-5 rookies this year means our 2025 pick probably going to be lottery which is another benefit of loading up on 2024 players. And if we ain't lottery that means we had some kick ass internal development from our own young guys. Win/Win scenario
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Post#934 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Indeed wrote:
That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.


Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Going for 24 picks makes more sense.


We absolutely should not be looking for anymore 24' picks. Trading up only. Team has to be aggressive using their space with 2nd apron now in place.
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Post#935 » by S.W.A.N » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:42 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Going for 24 picks makes more sense.


We absolutely should not be looking for anymore 24' picks. Trading up only. Team has to be aggressive using their space with 2nd apron now in place.


Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.
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Post#936 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:46 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
Going for 24 picks makes more sense.


We absolutely should not be looking for anymore 24' picks. Trading up only. Team has to be aggressive using their space with 2nd apron now in place.


Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.


We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.
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Post#937 » by TNRaps4life » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:13 am

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Post#938 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:21 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Indeed wrote:
That should be 24' FRP during draft night.
There is a better during free agency to acquire 25' FRP, particularly the top ones are gone, trades will begin.


Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Going for 24 picks makes more sense.

Teams that have cap/tax issues want to get rid of 24 picks. Teams trying to win now are willing to move 24 picks... This means 24 picks are potentially being discounted in a big way.

25 picks aren't being discounted by anyone. Way higher hype for the top guys next year and no salary cap obligations for future picks.

Trade Brown for a 2024 first and salary filler
Trade pick 31 and take some salary on for a mid-late pick from a second apron team.
Trade Boucher for a pick and taking on bad salary

lots of potential ways to take advantage of fact many teams aren't that interested in picking this year. Having 4-5 rookies this year means our 2025 pick probably going to be lottery which is another benefit of loading up on 2024 players. And if we ain't lottery that means we had some kick ass internal development from our own young guys. Win/Win scenario

I like this strategy. There are some interesting juniors and seniors also in this draft. Some teams can't afford their picks and/or have too many. It's a classic buy low opportunity.

However, as we know, this management isn't that creative on draft day for whatever reason. Hopefully in this draft workout process, they adjust tactics.
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Post#939 » by Indeed » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:11 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Indeed wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Teams entertain deals on draft night more than any other night. Tons of action. We don't need 24' picks. Goal should be to get another 25' pick as its a much better draft. Teams like golden state prime example who can trade it on draft night


Yes, but during draft night, I do not see future picks being throw in, unless it is for a star player.
Usually it is the same draft picks being moved.


Picks are moved for following years all the time. OKC/Denver most recently. Also, 24' picks are meaningless this year since its so down. A team like GS is not going to dump Wiggins by moving off their 24' pick (if they had it). 25' picks will be in play for teams that are crunched and have small windows. Raps just need to be aggressive.


We wish picks are moved for the following years, but from history, before free agency, future picks are not being moved unless for star players (multiple year picks).

Teams move 24' picks for free agency and salary reason, there is no reason for them to move 25' picks as it does not involve salary / cap space yet.
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Post#940 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:14 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
We absolutely should not be looking for anymore 24' picks. Trading up only. Team has to be aggressive using their space with 2nd apron now in place.


Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.


We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.


If the Spurs pick didn’t convert, we’d have 3 picks.

There’s nothing wrong with developing multiple young players at a time, we can strategize picking a mix of win-now prospects and players that need to be developed. If there are too many young players, just drop scrubs like Nwora, McDaniels or JFL who were still trying to develop for some reason.

Price for 2025 picks will be high. It’s better to buy low, not buy high.

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