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[Clyde_Style]

The KAT rumors might have legs because:

1) Leon promised Dolan he and WWW would get him a "star."
2) Unless someone surprisingly asks out, no other "star" may be available.
3) With our growth, picks, and other assets, the time to make a move for someone is now (before the new rules kick in).
4) Going after KAT would explain why we added former Minny POBO Rokas to our front office.
5) KAT can play the 4 or the 5 and could be the iHart replacement if he goes elsewhere.


The truth is, Minny is a secondary market team that can't afford to keep their current squad together and needs to save money/avoid the tax. With that said, the KNICKS might be able to nab KAT without giving up the farm or even any picks. We could end up having assets remaining for some future deal.

Other names ahead of KAT would be on my off-season wishlist. However, I do see multiple reasons why pursuing him might make sense for Leon.

OG’s a star. He was looking like Kawhi before he got hurt.

Eh. He's a really good role player.

Like, Bobby Jones was a GREAT player on the 76ers teams, but wasn't really a star.
But any team would want that player.

I'd take Bobby Jones over Randle 11 times out of 10

[Clyde_Style]

I agree on OG's ceiling. He will be among the best defenders in the league for us for many years but on offense 18points per game is his ceiling. He does not have the smoothness, ballhandling and overall offensive talent to consistently score 20+ points, let alone reach Kawhi territory. Not gonna happen. And I am 100% fine with that. Happy we have him but gotta keep expectations realistic.

18 PPG from OG would be superb actually. He's the kind of guy who would vacillate between 27 and 12 point games anyway so as long as he's doing all the other good stuff that turns us into defensive nightmares I'm very good with that average

[3toheadmelo]

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[HarthorneWingo]

OG’s a star. He was looking like Kawhi before he got hurt.

Eh. He's a really good role player.

Like, Bobby Jones was a GREAT player on the 76ers teams, but wasn't really a star.
But any team would want that player.

I'd take Bobby Jones over Randle 11 times out of 10

What’s wrong with Bobby Jones next to Randle?

[Clyde_Style]

Eh. He's a really good role player.

Like, Bobby Jones was a GREAT player on the 76ers teams, but wasn't really a star.
But any team would want that player.

I'd take Bobby Jones over Randle 11 times out of 10

What’s wrong with Bobby Jones next to Randle?

What's wrong with the crypt keeper next to Rupert Murdoch?

[RHODEY]

We found ways to get Brunson, Hart, OG, iHart, and DDV without emptying the warchest. We can figure out ways to get more great young players to add to the mix. Not every great young’ish player is untouchable. Far from it.

Right and sometimes teams are in a position where they can hold on to all their young by talent. OKC with Giddy is one example....Obi with us is another.

I don't think any of those 4 guys are in that position. Maybe you can get Deni since Washington is trying to rebuild. But Pelicans and Houston probably don't let those guys go.

I think the Pels should just trade BI for Trae Young. It'll bring a lot of roster balance to both teams.

I dunno ..I think the Pelicans might have 1 too many 6'7-6'8" forward types. If they do keep Ingram I could maybe see them moving Jones to fill an area of greater need.

[Richard4444]

Right and sometimes teams are in a position where they can hold on to all their young by talent. OKC with Giddy is one example....Obi with us is another.

I don't think any of those 4 guys are in that position. Maybe you can get Deni since Washington is trying to rebuild. But Pelicans and Houston probably don't let those guys go.

I think the Pels should just trade BI for Trae Young. It'll bring a lot of roster balance to both teams.

I dunno ..I think the Pelicans might have 1 too many 6'7-6'8" forward types. If they do keep Ingram I could maybe see them moving Jones to fill an area of greater need.

They are a small market club and have an expensive payroll. 155M without JV, Marshall, and their 24 pick.

It's tough to keep Ingram and Zion and still get expensive help considering they need a PG (Trae, Murray, Donovan, Garland, among options) and a starting center to replace JV.

Its better to deal with Ingram. In addition to be expensive, he is a flight risk.

[RHODEY]

I don't think any of those 4 guys are in that position. Maybe you can get Deni since Washington is trying to rebuild. But Pelicans and Houston probably don't let those guys go.

I think the Pels should just trade BI for Trae Young. It'll bring a lot of roster balance to both teams.

I dunno ..I think the Pelicans might have 1 too many 6'7-6'8" forward types. If they do keep Ingram I could maybe see them moving Jones to fill an area of greater need.

They are a small market club and have an expensive payroll. 155M without JV, Marshall, and their 24 pick.

It's tough to keep Ingram and Zion and still get expensive help considering they need a PG (Trae, Murray, Donovan, Garland, among options) and a starting center to replace JV.

Its better to deal with Ingram. In addition to be expensive, he is a flight risk.

So you think Ingram is a goner?

[Richard4444]

I dunno ..I think the Pelicans might have 1 too many 6'7-6'8" forward types. If they do keep Ingram I could maybe see them moving Jones to fill an area of greater need.

They are a small market club and have an expensive payroll. 155M without JV, Marshall, and their 24 pick.

It's tough to keep Ingram and Zion and still get expensive help considering they need a PG (Trae, Murray, Donovan, Garland, among options) and a starting center to replace JV.

Its better to deal with Ingram. In addition to be expensive, he is a flight risk.

So you think Ingram is a goner?

There is a huge chance that he will leave the team in 2025.

Besides, he is the he most valuable asset besides Zion. It would be wise for the Pelicans to deal him and try to balance the team.

[aggo]

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he was a guy I remember a lot of people on this board thought was going to be a great player;

[thebuzzardman]

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Knicks plan for depth this offseason:

[HarthorneWingo]

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Knicks plan for depth this offseason:

Fuuck it, just bring Alec Burks back. He can play alongside Deuce or Brunson and can play some PG. Also, he tall. He can also play the 3. He’ll come at a reasonable price. There just aren’t any other decent options that check off the boxes the Burks does.

[Richard4444]

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he was a guy I remember a lot of people on this board thought was going to be a great player;

We can not project high hopes for his performance. But, he can be a better option than Jeffreys, Diakite, Ryan, or Shake.

In the end, it's going to be hard to find players to be our 3 or 4 end-of-bench players.

Considering Thibs is our coach, our end-of-bench players must be cool being benchwarmers most of the season and prepared to not get opportunities at all.

[8516knicks]

I don't think any of those 4 guys are in that position. Maybe you can get Deni since Washington is trying to rebuild. But Pelicans and Houston probably don't let those guys go.

I think the Pels should just trade BI for Trae Young. It'll bring a lot of roster balance to both teams.

I dunno ..I think the Pelicans might have 1 too many 6'7-6'8" forward types. If they do keep Ingram I could maybe see them moving Jones to fill an area of greater need.

They are a small market club and have an expensive payroll. 155M without JV, Marshall, and their 24 pick.

It's tough to keep Ingram and Zion and still get expensive help considering they need a PG (Trae, Murray, Donovan, Garland, among options) and a starting center to replace JV.
yoffs.
Its better to deal with Ingram. In addition to be exhpensive, he is a flight risk.

Looking at things from a different angle - they get rid of him would make him 100% gone. And they what do they have? A fat Zion playing 50 games a year and not the full playoffs.

Better to deal Zion to some sucker team (not Knicks, I hope) and shore up the rest of the roster.

If they have to max Ingram, well, what's a small market team going to do otherwise? They may leak rumors now they won't but when push comes to him or Zion, who is more reliable?

[moocow007]

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he was a guy I remember a lot of people on this board thought was going to be a great player;

Yeah was not a fan. For where he was getting drafted he just did not have enough ball and shot creation skills. And honestly he wasn't the most explosive guy either. Didn't think he could score in the NBA and his defense was going to be limited due to lack of lateral quickness.

[nykballa2k4]

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he was a guy I remember a lot of people on this board thought was going to be a great player;

Yeah was not a fan. For where he was getting drafted he just did not have enough ball and shot creation skills. And honestly he wasn't the most explosive guy either. Didn't think he could score in the NBA and his defense was going to be limited due to lack of lateral quickness.

I don't get why we are stacking 6'5" guys and 1 tool guys at that.
Shooting is one of the more teachable skills. Deuce and Grimes were successful because both can get after it on defense and both can be reliable from 3.

Looking at another undersized wing who can either not guard (evan) or not play basketball (Jeffries etc) really is not doing much for us.

[Richard4444]

he was a guy I remember a lot of people on this board thought was going to be a great player;

Yeah was not a fan. For where he was getting drafted he just did not have enough ball and shot creation skills. And honestly he wasn't the most explosive guy either. Didn't think he could score in the NBA and his defense was going to be limited due to lack of lateral quickness.

I don't get why we are stacking 6'5" guys and 1 tool guys at that.
Shooting is one of the more teachable skills. Deuce and Grimes were successful because both can get after it on defense and both can be reliable from 3.

Looking at another undersized wing who can either not guard (evan) or not play basketball (Jeffries etc) really is not doing much for us.

I do not have a problem getting Culver to be our 14th or 15th player. If he is improved as a shooter, it's nice to have another hustle defender short guy. He barely will see the floor anyway.

But I understand your concern if we make a move for a guy like Caruso as the main offseason move getting rid of Bojan or Precious in the process. Too many short guys for my taste.

[Richard4444]

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[knicksstuff]

If Pelicans are open to parting ways with Jones, he has to be a target. Cost controlled elite Defender that shoots 40% from 3.

mitchell robinson and mcbride and couple of picks. Could unlock a lot of fun line ups and insurance for randle/OG injuries

[sol537]

If Pelicans are open to parting ways with Jones, he has to be a target. Cost controlled elite Defender that shoots 40% from 3.

mitchell robinson and mcbride and couple of picks. Could unlock a lot of fun line ups and insurance for randle/OG injuries

Agreed... Herb Jones or Mikal Bridges would be really nice. Even Tre Murphy. Or even Caruso haha.