2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[deeps6x]

Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

Did we promise DaRon Holmes II's unborn child something?

[deeps6x]

Somehow got mccain to drop to 19 back go back

Yeah, that seems to be happening a lot for me as well. I wonder how this program is outputting the results. Is it kind of screwy because it is just compiling potentials based on our (dumb) picks? I haven't looked into that yet.

I mean, no way does McCain drop to #19 right? I'd be all over it if he did.

[XTC]

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-19 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique.

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi
Holmes

Guards/Wings
Tyson
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Holmes, Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

[Rapsfan07]

Got Ware with #19 and Holmes with #31.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I don't see Masai passing on Zachary Edey at 19

[DreamTeam09]

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-20 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi

Guards
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

I can see us taking Collier if he fell to 19. He addresses some of the needs we have.

[deeps6x]

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-19 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique.

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi
Holmes

Guards
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Holmes, Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

You've got 9 guys going 14-19?

I agree they will draft a big.

[deeps6x]

I don't see Masai passing on Zachary Edey at 19

Neither do I. Even if Ware, Edey and Filipowski are all still available.

That said, Ware could still be the best pick for this team. Or the worst by a long shot. It's so hard to make that call. And since I don't think Masai can make a mistake on this one, he likely would still go with Edey (who would be very popular with the fans), or Filipowsky (as these two have higher floors then Ware).

[Rapsfan07]

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-19 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique.

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi
Holmes

Guards
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Holmes, Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

This looks about right to me.

I think McCain, if he isn't gone in the Top 13 will be gone by 15 at the absolute latest. Collier is probably gone by 16-17 and I'm hoping Edey is gone by then as well. So we'd be choosing between Walter, Holmes, Ware, Missi & Carrington. Of those guys, I have Walter and Carrington on my DND list, and I know I like both Ware and Holmes better than Missi.

OKC is a wild card though. I could see them being interested in anyone of Holmes, Edey or Ware at #12. I also don't see Topic falling past the Jazz at #10.

[CazOnReal]

I don't see Masai passing on Zachary Edey at 19

I see it, and my prescription is sh*t.

Like, I dunno what to tell you. Edey isn't a good fit, he's arguably not even the best player on the board if one is factoring in how much of their game will translate to the NBA level and he isn't a Masai type of guy. At least with Filipowski, we recently got a pseudo test run for his archetype alongside Scottie and IQ with Kelly Olynyk. Edey isn't even comparable to Poelt because so much worse of a passer.

To be perfectly blunt: If he wasn't Canadian, half of y'all wouldn't give a sh*t.

[XTC]

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-19 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique.

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi
Holmes

Guards
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Holmes, Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

You've got 9 guys going 14-19?

I agree they will draft a big.

I worded it pretty bad, but I think those are players we should be looking at, and anyone of them could be available at #19

[XTC]

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-19 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique.

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi
Holmes

Guards/Wings
Tyson
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Holmes, Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

Of the players listed, the Raptors have only worked out Tyson, Ware, and Edey.

[XTC]

Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

Unless he had some ultra private workout with us, the draft tracker doesn't even show we worked him out.

[XTC]

The 2023 draft track apparently these where the players we worked out:
Charles Bediako
Gradey Dick
Jordan Hawkins
Kamaka Hepa
Jett Howard
Maxwell Lewis
Leonard Miller
Isaiah Miranda
Markquis Nowell
Brandin Podziemski
Malachi Smith
Nick Smith Jr.
Cason Wallace
DeAndre Williams

It was clear they wanted a guard/shooting

These are the players we have worked out so far in 2024:
Jaden Bediako
Reece Beekman
Keion Brooks Jr.
Marcus Domask
Zach Edey
Jesse Edwards
Tristan Enaruna
Ticket Gaines
Joseph Girard III
Coleman Hawkins
Dillon Jones
Xaivian Lee
Emanuel Miller
Jonathan Mogbo
Josh Oduro
Tyrese Samuel
Cam Spencer
Jaylon Tyson
Hason Ward
Kel’el Ware
Jahmir Young

I really do feel Masai has locked in one of Edey, Ware, or Tyson with #19. It seems like the Raptors are scouting more for #31. A lot of the players we are working out are between the ages of 22-24, and we have worked out 5 guards, 8 wings, and 8 bigs so far.

[S.W.A.N]

We absolutely should not be looking for anymore 24' picks. Trading up only. Team has to be aggressive using their space with 2nd apron now in place.

Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.

We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.

The situation when they ditched is different than now. I would bet they have a different perspective on things now. Getting a pick for Bruce Brown is absolutely a goal now.

I completely agree that 2025 picks have more value than 2024 picks, but I think the whole league thinks that. A mid to late 2024 pick is far far far easier to get than a 2025 pick. I'd rather be buying discounted picks than premium prices ones.

[PhilBlackson]

I fully expect us to draft Edey if he's still there....and I'm not a fan of that decision.

[WuTang_CMB]

Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.

We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.

The situation when they ditched is different than now. I would bet they have a different perspective on things now. Getting a pick for Bruce Brown is absolutely a goal now.

I completely agree that 2025 picks have more value than 2024 picks, but I think the whole league thinks that. A mid to late 2024 pick is far far far easier to get than a 2025 pick. I'd rather be buying discounted picks than premium prices ones.

They dont want anymore 24’ picks. Situation hasnt changed they are already bringing in 2 rookies. My guess is they try real hard to grab a 25’ pick or at least try and move up to target someone they like.

[deeps6x]

Completely disagree. We are a team that wants to develop players. Get some more draft picks and develop them.

We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.

The situation when they ditched is different than now. I would bet they have a different perspective on things now. Getting a pick for Bruce Brown is absolutely a goal now.

I completely agree that 2025 picks have more value than 2024 picks, but I think the whole league thinks that. A mid to late 2024 pick is far far far easier to get than a 2025 pick. I'd rather be buying discounted picks than premium prices ones.

I will be shocked if Masai can land a pick for Bruce Brown. Even a 2nd in this draft in the 30s would make me smile. Take Mogbo or Cam Spencer (GTJ replacement), or maybe someone unexpected falls out of the first round.

Best pull-up shooter: Cam Spencer, SG, UConn

Spencer is one of the overall best shooters among prospects in the draft, hitting 44% of his 3-point attempts (43% the season before) and 91% of his free throws, but the fact that he's so dynamic in getting his jumper off is worth noting. Spencer, ranked No. 59 in ESPN's Top 100, hit a scorching 47% of his pull-up 3s this season, while also converting more 3s running off screens than anyone in the class. He aggressively hunts pull-up 3s dribbling up the floor in transition, loves pulling up off escape dribbles after sidestepping hard closeouts with his pump fake and regularly punishes defenses for going under ball screens.

Also, Kentucky's Reed Sheppard deserves mention in this category. He hit 51% of his pull-up 3s, but did so on nearly half the sample size of Spencer's, being more judicious with his attempts. -- Givony

[XTC]

We ditched our other 24' pick for a reason. They don't want 3 rookies next season as Masai admitted. 25' better quality draft across the board. If opportunity is there, you jump on that.

The situation when they ditched is different than now. I would bet they have a different perspective on things now. Getting a pick for Bruce Brown is absolutely a goal now.

I completely agree that 2025 picks have more value than 2024 picks, but I think the whole league thinks that. A mid to late 2024 pick is far far far easier to get than a 2025 pick. I'd rather be buying discounted picks than premium prices ones.

I will be shocked if Masai can land a pick for Bruce Brown. Even a 2nd in this draft in the 30s would make me smile. Take Mogbo or Cam Spencer (GTJ replacement), or maybe someone unexpected falls out of the first round.

Best pull-up shooter: Cam Spencer, SG, UConn

Spencer is one of the overall best shooters among prospects in the draft, hitting 44% of his 3-point attempts (43% the season before) and 91% of his free throws, but the fact that he's so dynamic in getting his jumper off is worth noting. Spencer, ranked No. 59 in ESPN's Top 100, hit a scorching 47% of his pull-up 3s this season, while also converting more 3s running off screens than anyone in the class. He aggressively hunts pull-up 3s dribbling up the floor in transition, loves pulling up off escape dribbles after sidestepping hard closeouts with his pump fake and regularly punishes defenses for going under ball screens.

Also, Kentucky's Reed Sheppard deserves mention in this category. He hit 51% of his pull-up 3s, but did so on nearly half the sample size of Spencer's, being more judicious with his attempts. -- Givony

I definitely feel like Spencer is in play for #31

Guy is a light out shooter. He might be a draft day riser.

[PhilBlackson]

Spoiler:

I fully expect picks 1-13 to be

Rissacher
Sarr
Clingan
Sheppard
Buzelis
Castle
Dillingham
Knecht
Carter
Williams
Holland
Salaun
Topic

14-19 the following should be available, and they each bring something unique.

Shooters
Walter
Mccain
Silva

Big men
Edey
Filipowski
Ware
Missi
Holmes

Guards
Collier
Carrington

I don't see the Raptors going after a guard, and I don't expect Walter, Mccain, or Silva to be available. All signs are pointing to the Raptors going after a big man IMO. I fully expect one of Holmes, Edey, Filipowski, Ware, or Missi to be a Raptor, unless one of the shooters drop IMO.

You've got 9 guys going 14-19?

I agree they will draft a big.

I say it will be a wing or big.

Firstly, Masai mentioned a bigger wing as being at the top of his list of off-season needs, then backup PG and lastly a developmental 3rd big. But when you look at the list of players that have been in it's actually been primarily wings with both Ware & Edey as the bigs which to me seems like they'd like to get a good wing but if one they really like isn't available they want to be prepared to pick between those 2.

Really I believe we're drafting one of TDS, (*George, Tyson - if they're sold on them) or Edey, Ware in that order.

I think the FO would really like to plug the hole at the SF position and with the most NBA ready version so they can be more "competitive" next season. I'm sure they're also giving George & Tyson strong consideration while hoping for a wing to fall (Saluan or Holland in particular). Failing those wings being there OR not being sold enough on whichever are remaining after TDS, it will be very tough for the FO to pass on the potential cashcow that Edey could be long term. You have the gimmicky "hometown hero" to sell with RJ and just the freak of nature attraction that a 7'4 human is and I think MLSE will have a hard time on passing on a player they think will bring in a bunch of extra viewers. Now if he's gone, I think Ware would also be above any non-TDS wing that didn't fall but I guess we'll see...

I'm just actually surprised that we haven't seen more PGs brought in considering you would think that's where the greatest concentration of the best available talent should be at our pick. But again it just seems like the FO is using the draft on a wing or big. Maybe we already know that we have some inroads with a vet PG (and I'm sure they would like a vet to lead the bench unit).