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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#161 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:35 am

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Ferry Avenue wrote:If the game were won with traditional centers like Embiid, don’t you think there would be more of them?

When Michael Jordan stormed through the league with a dynasty with the Chicago Bulls, it wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement for the development of centers at the high school and college levels.

Similarly Patrick Mahomes isn’t inspiring anything up-and-coming at the running back position in football.


Yeah, I see a whole bunch of freakishly athletic 7-foot guys roaming the streets. They just get routed to things other then basketball. My financial planner...7-foot-3 and runs a 4.35, just couldn't say no to Merrill Lynch.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude....there's a reason the NBAs best centers are Jokic, Embiid......GIGANTIC DROPOFF......next guy. They're one (or two) of a kind and any team would kill to have one. They're not automatic tickets to championships but they're insanely valuable pieces.

The game used to be organized around the paint and it no longer is -- it's organized around the perimeter and the three-point shot. This is common knowledge and it fundamentally alters the role of the center in the present day game. Consequently the tall kids running around in middle school and high school gyms are practicing three-pointers, not post-up moves. And the tall players in the NBA are doing the same thing.


If the referees do not allow physicality, the game opens up and scoring becomes easier for everyone. Perimeter players, in particular, can score more efficiently because their speed often leaves defenders out of position, leading to more free throws. Additionally, smaller players are naturally better shooters, benefiting further from a less physical game.

Conversely, when referees permit physicality, scoring becomes more difficult for everyone. The best way to score under these conditions is by getting into the paint through post-ups. In this scenario, having size becomes crucial, as it is often the only way to get a shot off in that congested area.

I believe a balance of both is necessary due to shooting variance and the fact that referees officiate games differently from the start of the regular season to Game 7 of the finals, and from the first second of the game to the last. This variability in officiating highlights the importance of adapting to different levels of physicality and maintaining versatility in both offensive and defensive strategies.

The Celtics have a balanced approach, combining strong three-point shooting with the ability to exploit weak defenders. Players like Doncic and Kyrie can be targeted defensively, and smaller defenders are vulnerable to Porzingis' post-up game. This dual-threat strategy makes the Celtics a versatile and formidable team on offense.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#162 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:36 am

Ferry Avenue wrote:
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Ferry Avenue wrote:If the game were won with traditional centers like Embiid, don’t you think there would be more of them?

When Michael Jordan stormed through the league with a dynasty with the Chicago Bulls, it wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement for the development of centers at the high school and college levels.

Similarly Patrick Mahomes isn’t inspiring anything up-and-coming at the running back position in football.


Yeah, I see a whole bunch of freakishly athletic 7-foot guys roaming the streets. They just get routed to things other then basketball. My financial planner...7-foot-3 and runs a 4.35, just couldn't say no to Merrill Lynch.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude....there's a reason the NBAs best centers are Jokic, Embiid......GIGANTIC DROPOFF......next guy. They're one (or two) of a kind and any team would kill to have one. They're not automatic tickets to championships but they're insanely valuable pieces.

The game used to be organized around the paint and it no longer is -- it's organized around the perimeter and the three-point shot. This is common knowledge and it fundamentally alters the role of the center in the present day game. Consequently the tall kids running around in middle school and high school gyms are practicing three-pointers, not post-up moves. And the tall players in the NBA are doing the same thing.


If the referees do not allow physicality, the game opens up and scoring becomes easier for everyone. Perimeter players, in particular, can score more efficiently because their speed often leaves defenders out of position, leading to more free throws. Additionally, smaller players are naturally better shooters, benefiting further from a less physical game.

Conversely, when referees permit physicality, scoring becomes more difficult for everyone. The best way to score under these conditions is by getting into the paint through post-ups. In this scenario, having size becomes crucial, as it is often the only way to get a shot off in that congested area.

I believe a balance of both is necessary due to shooting variance and the fact that referees officiate games differently from the start of the regular season to Game 7 of the finals, and from the first second of the game to the last. This variability in officiating highlights the importance of adapting to different levels of physicality and maintaining versatility in both offensive and defensive strategies.

The Celtics have a balanced approach, combining strong three-point shooting with the ability to exploit weak defenders. Players like Doncic and Kyrie can be targeted defensively, and smaller defenders are vulnerable to Porzingis' post-up game. This dual-threat strategy makes the Celtics a versatile and formidable team on offense.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#163 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:03 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:We hammer the table about needing shooters, but Boston is letting Dallas stay in the game at home because their shooters are going ice cold. Meanwhile Doncic is getting to the line and keeping the team in games.

I’d rather a low volume, high FTr wing with distribution ability to match with Maxey and Embiid than guys who are bound to go ice cold in the playoffs and have no ability to get us a basket.


Relying on drawing fouls in the playoffs is a fools errand.

Kyrie is shrinking right now, mostly because he let the Boston fans get to him.


There’s a difference between how Embiid draws fouls and how Jaylen Brown, Jimmy Butler, and, yes, Demar DeRozan draws them. It isn’t foul baiting, it’s getting to the rim and creating contact.

Additionally, wouldn’t it be great to get one of the best scorers (and “most clutch”) inside the arc to score some buckets when the 3 point spamming has gone cold?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#164 » by Covi_Marsh » Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:39 pm

Jimmy most definitely foul baits. He uses the pump fake to get you in the air or he drives and uses his lower body to initiate contact with your legs in the air. Refs call it damn near every time too. But it leads to him having all these lower body injuries. Dont see that improving unless he changes his style of play. He’s not an efficient enough scorer to eliminate that from his play though.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#165 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:We hammer the table about needing shooters, but Boston is letting Dallas stay in the game at home because their shooters are going ice cold. Meanwhile Doncic is getting to the line and keeping the team in games.

I’d rather a low volume, high FTr wing with distribution ability to match with Maxey and Embiid than guys who are bound to go ice cold in the playoffs and have no ability to get us a basket.


Relying on drawing fouls in the playoffs is a fools errand.

Kyrie is shrinking right now, mostly because he let the Boston fans get to him.


There’s a difference between how Embiid draws fouls and how Jaylen Brown, Jimmy Butler, and, yes, Demar DeRozan draws them. It isn’t foul baiting, it’s getting to the rim and creating contact.

Additionally, wouldn’t it be great to get one of the best scorers (and “most clutch”) inside the arc to score some buckets when the 3 point spamming has gone cold?


Don’t leave out my boy Ingram!
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#166 » by Covi_Marsh » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:24 pm

According to Keith Smith we will have 61.3 mil cap space. That includes Embiid 51.4 mil, council iv 1.9 mil, Maxey 13 mil and 1st round pick 4 mi. I’m going keep Reed 7.7 on the books to trade. So that puts us at 53.6 mil to spend.

Sign Paul George 4 yr max. 49.35 that leaves us at 4.25 mil.

Trade Reed and a 2nd to Brooklyn for Dorian Finney-Smith.
That puts us at -2.95, we’re over the cap.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve read that a team below the 1st apron can bring in salary over 7.5 as long as the incoming salary is outgoing salary plus $7.5MM. So essentially if we draft a player and trade him his 4 mil + 7.5 mil would allow us to bring in up to 11.5 mil.

With that said I’m drafting a player of Chicago bulls choosing and trading him there for Alex Caruso expiring 9.89 mil.

Re-sign Oubre with the MLE.
Vet mins contract offers to Cam Payne, Nic Batum, and Andre Drummond. And fill out the other roster spots to fill the team.

PG Tyrese Maxey / Cam Payne
SG Alex Caruso / Kelly Oubre
SF Paul George / Ricky Council
PF Dorian Finney Smith / Nic Batum
C Joel Embiid / Andre Drummond
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#167 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:34 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:
the_process wrote:
Relying on drawing fouls in the playoffs is a fools errand.

Kyrie is shrinking right now, mostly because he let the Boston fans get to him.


There’s a difference between how Embiid draws fouls and how Jaylen Brown, Jimmy Butler, and, yes, Demar DeRozan draws them. It isn’t foul baiting, it’s getting to the rim and creating contact.

Additionally, wouldn’t it be great to get one of the best scorers (and “most clutch”) inside the arc to score some buckets when the 3 point spamming has gone cold?


Don’t leave out my boy Ingram!


I wouldn't dare leave out Brandon Ingram: .238 3PAr (3.8 3PA, just making the requisite cut for more than 3 3PA a game), .302 FTr.

DeMar DeRozan: .166 3PAr (2.8 3PA a game), .452 FTr
Jimmy Butler : .183 3PAr (2.4 3PA a game), .579 FTr

Jaylen actually doesn't really draw fouls to the level I expected him to.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#168 » by the_process » Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:45 pm

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The beauty of the LaVine-for-cap-space deal is that it not only solves their logjam but also provides additional benefits. By trading LaVine for cap space, the Bulls would gain 40-50M in cap space, allowing them to sign two players worth 20-25M each, such as Miles Bridges to pair with Vucevic or Hartenstein to replace Vucevic. Alternatively, they could sign someone like Malik Monk or Klay Thompson to replace LaVine. Additionally, we would likely ask for a swap of the 2024 pick, moving down from 11 to 16, and a swap of the 2026 OKC pick for their 2026 pick

Then for us, if it doesnt work, we can trade Lavine’s contract which increases in value as 2027 approaches, as well as the pick we select in the lottery this year and the 2026 Bulls 1st along with the other picks we didnt give up.


In theory, it's nice to talk about getting paid to take a bad contract.

In reality, the Bulls are going to want an asset for LaVine still. I don't think they're going to pay to get off him.

IMO the best you could do would be something like LaVine and Caruso for Reed, 16, and 41. That way Chicago can at least sell it as they got something for each of their guys.


As ive explained, they are getting an asset because its going to free up $40-50M worth of cap for them, what they’re giving up is relatively minimal with two swaps (2024 and 2026). I dont even value that 2024 swap for I think the gap in talent with the 11th and 16th pick is very minimal to be a deal breaker.

They can even sign Paul George after the trade..


If the Bulls have a guy willing to sign on the dotted line and need room, maybe they agree to your proposal.

But Chicago is just as bad at drawing FA's as Philly is. And without any motivation, I don't think they pay to dump LaVine. But we'll see.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#169 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:18 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:According to Keith Smith we will have 61.3 mil cap space. That includes Embiid 51.4 mil, council iv 1.9 mil, Maxey 13 mil and 1st round pick 4 mi. I’m going keep Reed 7.7 on the books to trade. So that puts us at 53.6 mil to spend.

Sign Paul George 4 yr max. 49.35 that leaves us at 4.25 mil.

Trade Reed and a 2nd to Brooklyn for Dorian Finney-Smith.
That puts us at -2.95, we’re over the cap.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve read that a team below the 1st apron can bring in salary over 7.5 as long as the incoming salary is outgoing salary plus $7.5MM. So essentially if we draft a player and trade him his 4 mil + 7.5 mil would allow us to bring in up to 11.5 mil.

With that said I’m drafting a player of Chicago bulls choosing and trading him there for Alex Caruso expiring 9.89 mil.

Re-sign Oubre with the MLE.
Vet mins contract offers to Cam Payne, Nic Batum, and Andre Drummond. And fill out the other roster spots to fill the team.

PG Tyrese Maxey / Cam Payne
SG Alex Caruso / Kelly Oubre
SF Paul George / Ricky Council
PF Dorian Finney Smith / Nic Batum
C Joel Embiid / Andre Drummond


If we go the Paul George route, this is about as good as it could get.
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#170 » by the_process » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:32 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:According to Keith Smith we will have 61.3 mil cap space. That includes Embiid 51.4 mil, council iv 1.9 mil, Maxey 13 mil and 1st round pick 4 mi. I’m going keep Reed 7.7 on the books to trade. So that puts us at 53.6 mil to spend.

Sign Paul George 4 yr max. 49.35 that leaves us at 4.25 mil.

Trade Reed and a 2nd to Brooklyn for Dorian Finney-Smith.
That puts us at -2.95, we’re over the cap.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve read that a team below the 1st apron can bring in salary over 7.5 as long as the incoming salary is outgoing salary plus $7.5MM. So essentially if we draft a player and trade him his 4 mil + 7.5 mil would allow us to bring in up to 11.5 mil.

With that said I’m drafting a player of Chicago bulls choosing and trading him there for Alex Caruso expiring 9.89 mil.

Re-sign Oubre with the MLE.
Vet mins contract offers to Cam Payne, Nic Batum, and Andre Drummond. And fill out the other roster spots to fill the team.

PG Tyrese Maxey / Cam Payne
SG Alex Caruso / Kelly Oubre
SF Paul George / Ricky Council
PF Dorian Finney Smith / Nic Batum
C Joel Embiid / Andre Drummond


Could certainly do a whole hell of a lot worse than this.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#171 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:57 pm

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In theory, it's nice to talk about getting paid to take a bad contract.

In reality, the Bulls are going to want an asset for LaVine still. I don't think they're going to pay to get off him.

IMO the best you could do would be something like LaVine and Caruso for Reed, 16, and 41. That way Chicago can at least sell it as they got something for each of their guys.


As ive explained, they are getting an asset because its going to free up $40-50M worth of cap for them, what they’re giving up is relatively minimal with two swaps (2024 and 2026). I dont even value that 2024 swap for I think the gap in talent with the 11th and 16th pick is very minimal to be a deal breaker.

They can even sign Paul George after the trade..


If the Bulls have a guy willing to sign on the dotted line and need room, maybe they agree to your proposal.

But Chicago is just as bad at drawing FA's as Philly is. And without any motivation, I don't think they pay to dump LaVine. But we'll see.


They can split the money with 2 of Hartenstein, Monk and Miles Bridges.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#172 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:32 pm

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There’s a difference between how Embiid draws fouls and how Jaylen Brown, Jimmy Butler, and, yes, Demar DeRozan draws them. It isn’t foul baiting, it’s getting to the rim and creating contact.

Additionally, wouldn’t it be great to get one of the best scorers (and “most clutch”) inside the arc to score some buckets when the 3 point spamming has gone cold?


Don’t leave out my boy Ingram!


I wouldn't dare leave out Brandon Ingram: .238 3PAr (3.8 3PA, just making the requisite cut for more than 3 3PA a game), .302 FTr.

DeMar DeRozan: .166 3PAr (2.8 3PA a game), .452 FTr
Jimmy Butler : .183 3PAr (2.4 3PA a game), .579 FTr

Jaylen actually doesn't really draw fouls to the level I expected him to.


Cmon man, you’re comparing Derozan at the end of his prime to Ingrams worst year. Look at those 2 at the same ages and Ingram’s right on par with DD (not to mention better at everything else).

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=ingrabr01&p1yrfrom=2018&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=derozde01&p2yrfrom=2010&p2yrto=2016
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Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#173 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:42 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
Don’t leave out my boy Ingram!


I wouldn't dare leave out Brandon Ingram: .238 3PAr (3.8 3PA, just making the requisite cut for more than 3 3PA a game), .302 FTr.

DeMar DeRozan: .166 3PAr (2.8 3PA a game), .452 FTr
Jimmy Butler : .183 3PAr (2.4 3PA a game), .579 FTr

Jaylen actually doesn't really draw fouls to the level I expected him to.


Cmon man, you’re comparing Derozan at the end of his prime to Ingrams worst year. Look at those 2 at the same ages and Ingram’s right on par with DD (not to mention better at everything else).

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=ingrabr01&p1yrfrom=2018&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=derozde01&p2yrfrom=2010&p2yrto=2016


Why do I care about what DeRozan did from 2010-2016? The game was completely different back then. We presumably need a guy for the next 2-3 years; wouldn't it make sense to look at what they did lately?

And Ingram has regressed majorly since 20-21 in 3 volume. Haven't been watching them closely, so I don't know why this would occur. Especially since his usage has increased and he became more of a distributor.

All of this with the backdrop that DeRozan can be acquired by simply being the best bidder while Ingram will require dumping all future assets into him.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#174 » by FireMorey » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:53 pm

Alex Caruso might be my most hated player in the NBA. Well, that will always be Horford, but I can't stand Caruso. It's more the discourse around Caruso than Caruso himself. If he never played for the Lakers, the hype around him would be about 75% less than it is now. Everyone who plays on the Lakers gets overhyped. It's the only reason Austin Reaves is even a thing. He can't play and if he was on the Hornets no one would know he existed.

Caruso is a solid role player. He can help teams. But he's not a guy you give up good draft capital for and he's not a guy you pay big money to. He's a "glue guy" when he plays on team with superstars who contrarians who want to sound smart overhype. Because it's too obvious to credit the stars for the success, some analytics dork will write a bunch of articles about how instrumental role player Alex Caruso is the "real key." I'd take him for a couple 2nd rounders, but trading away anything real for him, no thanks. Give me someone who can space the floor and/or put the ball in the basket at a high volume.

I don't like gritty player types. They're fun when they're on someone else's team, but when they're on your team the novelty wears thin pretty quickly.
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Post#175 » by SixthStreet » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:23 pm

What if Embiid starts shooting a lot more 3s? He's pretty much left alone out there and that might be one of the ways he could be a more effective scorer in the playoffs. I'd like to see some regular season experimentation that has him shooting 7-8 of them a game.
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Post#176 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:37 pm

SixthStreet wrote:What if Embiid starts shooting a lot more 3s? He's pretty much left alone out there and that might be one of the ways he could be a more effective scorer in the playoffs. I'd like to see some regular season experimentation that has him shooting 7-8 of them a game.


Actually this is legit and it worked in our playoff wins this plus more defense and rebound attention is the what we need from him to win and progress.

We absolutely need a dominant scorer paired with Maxey to take the scoring load off Embiid. I'm on board for Ingram or Lavine. Embiid should take more 3s and transition to a Dirk OFF -HAKEEM DEF STYLE .
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#177 » by Ferry Avenue » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:10 pm

76ciology wrote:
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GutUNC wrote:
Yeah, I see a whole bunch of freakishly athletic 7-foot guys roaming the streets. They just get routed to things other then basketball. My financial planner...7-foot-3 and runs a 4.35, just couldn't say no to Merrill Lynch.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude....there's a reason the NBAs best centers are Jokic, Embiid......GIGANTIC DROPOFF......next guy. They're one (or two) of a kind and any team would kill to have one. They're not automatic tickets to championships but they're insanely valuable pieces.

The game used to be organized around the paint and it no longer is -- it's organized around the perimeter and the three-point shot. This is common knowledge and it fundamentally alters the role of the center in the present day game. Consequently the tall kids running around in middle school and high school gyms are practicing three-pointers, not post-up moves. And the tall players in the NBA are doing the same thing.


If the referees do not allow physicality, the game opens up and scoring becomes easier for everyone. Perimeter players, in particular, can score more efficiently because their speed often leaves defenders out of position, leading to more free throws. Additionally, smaller players are naturally better shooters, benefiting further from a less physical game.

Conversely, when referees permit physicality, scoring becomes more difficult for everyone. The best way to score under these conditions is by getting into the paint through post-ups. In this scenario, having size becomes crucial, as it is often the only way to get a shot off in that congested area.

I believe a balance of both is necessary due to shooting variance and the fact that referees officiate games differently from the start of the regular season to Game 7 of the finals, and from the first second of the game to the last. This variability in officiating highlights the importance of adapting to different levels of physicality and maintaining versatility in both offensive and defensive strategies.

The Celtics have a balanced approach, combining strong three-point shooting with the ability to exploit weak defenders. Players like Doncic and Kyrie can be targeted defensively, and smaller defenders are vulnerable to Porzingis' post-up game. This dual-threat strategy makes the Celtics a versatile and formidable team on offense.

All that may be true, but does that mean you pay someone like Embiid what the Sixers do and make him the centerpiece of your team, or do you target someone like Porzingis and pay him roughly $20M fewer a year than Embiid so you can allocate greater salary cap money to your perimeter/dribble-drive players?

We can go back to another football analogy -- in winter bad weather games late in the season the run game becomes more important than it usually is, and the team with the better run game very often wins those kinds of games. But does that mean you pay a running back an exorbitant amount and target run blocking offensive linemen, at the expense of being able to pay a QB big and adequately pass blocking for him? Does it also mean you revolve your offense around the run game in anticipation of such games?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#178 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:15 pm

Ferry Avenue wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Ferry Avenue wrote:The game used to be organized around the paint and it no longer is -- it's organized around the perimeter and the three-point shot. This is common knowledge and it fundamentally alters the role of the center in the present day game. Consequently the tall kids running around in middle school and high school gyms are practicing three-pointers, not post-up moves. And the tall players in the NBA are doing the same thing.


If the referees do not allow physicality, the game opens up and scoring becomes easier for everyone. Perimeter players, in particular, can score more efficiently because their speed often leaves defenders out of position, leading to more free throws. Additionally, smaller players are naturally better shooters, benefiting further from a less physical game.

Conversely, when referees permit physicality, scoring becomes more difficult for everyone. The best way to score under these conditions is by getting into the paint through post-ups. In this scenario, having size becomes crucial, as it is often the only way to get a shot off in that congested area.

I believe a balance of both is necessary due to shooting variance and the fact that referees officiate games differently from the start of the regular season to Game 7 of the finals, and from the first second of the game to the last. This variability in officiating highlights the importance of adapting to different levels of physicality and maintaining versatility in both offensive and defensive strategies.

The Celtics have a balanced approach, combining strong three-point shooting with the ability to exploit weak defenders. Players like Doncic and Kyrie can be targeted defensively, and smaller defenders are vulnerable to Porzingis' post-up game. This dual-threat strategy makes the Celtics a versatile and formidable team on offense.

All that may be true, but does that mean you pay someone like Embiid what the Sixers do and make him the centerpiece of your team, or do you target someone like Porzingis and pay him roughly $20M fewer a year than Embiid so you can allocate greater salary cap money to your perimeter/dribble-drive players?

We can go back to another football analogy -- in winter bad weather games late in the season the run game becomes more important than it usually is, and the team with the better run game very often wins those kinds of games. But does that mean you pay a running back an exorbitant amount and target run blocking offensive linemen, at the expense of being able to pay a QB big and adequately pass blocking for him? Does it also mean you revolve your offense around the run game in anticipation of such games?



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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#179 » by Stanford » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:45 pm

Ferry Avenue wrote:We can go back to another football analogy


What if I don't watch football?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#180 » by Mik317 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:28 pm

we are currently watching a finals in which a top 5 player is going against a deep team and is currently down 2-0 because his second is getting blanketed and he has no consistent third.

I really think just upgrading the Tobias spot does a lot of the heavy lifting for improvement. Not all of it but just having a consistent third source of offense changes a lot. Tatum is shooting like I do in 2k (because I am ass) and they are winning because Brown is doing his thing and either Porzingi or Jrue or White are always doing their thing (or all 3) and it doesn't matter. Now a lot of this is positional and the fact that they spam 3s, so they are never out of a game and can get big leads quickly. Their defense also causes a lot of fastbreaks. Ironically they are at their worst in a slow it down iso heavy game in which the J's playmaking becomes shaky and relies heavy on shot making....sounds familiar no? So yeah some different gameplan approach will be needed

BUT I really feel like the fact that every year we have had a major minute player give us multiple games of goose eggs has a major part (NOT THE ONLY PART) to do with our sad outs lol.

Now who that 3rd guy ends up being idk...because yeah you'd think anyone is better than Tobias but if said player is hurt due to old age thennnnnn.
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